Kontralta

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i don't wanna sound demanding, not my game the dev doesn't have to listen to anything we say, but, there's already a variation of the fiona scene where you don't pursue her. So I'm not asking for a new scene to replace it, just when you choose not to do anything with fiona it then switches to that already existing scene where you don't have sex.
If such a scene already exists, then what else do you want?
 

Ciaran8023

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Jun 4, 2018
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i don't wanna sound demanding, not my game the dev doesn't have to listen to anything we say, but, there's already a variation of the fiona scene where you don't pursue her. So I'm not asking for a new scene to replace it, just when you choose not to do anything with fiona it then switches to that already existing scene where you don't have sex.
Pretty much this. It's clear that basically all LI's will likely be optional and have variants of scenes where they aren't sexually involved with eachother, so it's very easy to just give the players a choice "hey yeah I don't want to/feel like it/not interested" and it just switches over to the scene that already exists for non-sexual reasons.

A lot of games do exactly this and it's honestly a bit weird that it isn't a thing here because it would solve a LOT of peoples issues.
 
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InkAndSaliva

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It's difficult to build and write a consistent route if the player has the option of skipping all the LI's sex scenes though, since every scene between them would have to account for any possible combination of previous scenes being skipped. If any sex scene is skippable, than all sex scenes become superfluous to the story, which beats the point of a porn game.

If future content on the Fiona path is built around the idea that she and Ashe have had sex, and Fiona isn't in the position yet that she'd be comfortable being the receiver, then of course it might be mandatory for her route to include a scene where Ashe gets fucked by her. Hell, in this episode her character development focuses on her concerns about how her and Ashe's relationship will change due to them becoming sexually intimate.
 

Ciaran8023

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It's difficult to build and write a consistent route if the player has the option of skipping all the LI's sex scenes though, since every scene between them would have to account for any possible combination of previous scenes being skipped. If any sex scene is skippable, than all sex scenes become superfluous to the story, which beats the point of a porn game.
The point is choice, if there isn't a choice to say "hey, I don't want this, I'm not comfortable with it" then it's better to slap a kinetic tag on it.
You also noted the word 'game'. A game without choices isn't actually a game, it's just a visual novel.
 

LegacyV01

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Feb 24, 2019
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It's difficult to build and write a consistent route if the player has the option of skipping all the LI's sex scenes though, since every scene between them would have to account for any possible combination of previous scenes being skipped. If any sex scene is skippable, than all sex scenes become superfluous to the story, which beats the point of a porn game.

If future content on the Fiona path is built around the idea that she and Ashe have had sex, and Fiona isn't in the position yet that she'd be comfortable being the receiver, then of course it might be mandatory for her route to include a scene where Ashe gets fucked by her. Hell, in this episode her character development focuses on her concerns about how her and Ashe's relationship will change due to them becoming sexually intimate.
I think this leads it to feeling more Kinetic Novely, which just isn't what people expected with routes/"more" choice being added.
 

Avaron1974

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Coz Futas are imaginary. To be a futa game you need actual world-building, either to explain how they come into existence, or give a detailed description of what the different social norms are in a world where futas exist as-is. In HHT it's just a girl who grows a dick in a lab accident and that's it. You can replace her literally with a dude and it makes absolutely no difference to the plot.
Considering the plot to HAHT is finding out how a dick grew on a woman and how to cure here, replacing her with a dude would be weird as fuck.

So you're pretty much talking bollocks.
 

InkAndSaliva

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The point is choice, if there isn't a choice to say "hey, I don't want this, I'm not comfortable with it" then it's better to slap a kinetic tag on it.
You also noted the word 'game'. A game without choices isn't actually a game, it's just a visual novel.
Removing the choice to skip individual sex scenes does not remove all choices from the game. This game is a visual novel.
 

LegacyV01

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Feb 24, 2019
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The point is choice, if there isn't a choice to say "hey, I don't want this, I'm not comfortable with it" then it's better to slap a kinetic tag on it.
You also noted the word 'game'. A game without choices isn't actually a game, it's just a visual novel.
Exactly. Better to slap the Kinetic Novel tag on it and call it safe. The game up to 0.4 did feel like a kinetic novel to a degree, but imo you actually had MORE choice.
 
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