to be able to be on Fiona path, but say no to having sex with her then it skips to them getting ready for the party. That's my interpretation at least
yeah, basically. I just don't want to be locked into a scene because the only choice to prevent it was a chapter or two ago
Obviously dev thinks this scene is important, just like he/she did with the Zoey scene.
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Pretty much this. It's clear that basically all LI's will likely be optional and have variants of scenes where they aren't sexually involved with eachother, so it's very easy to just give the players a choice "hey yeah I don't want to/feel like it/not interested" and it just switches over to the scene that already exists for non-sexual reasons.
A lot of games do exactly this and it's honestly a bit weird that it isn't a thing here because it would solve a LOT of peoples issues.
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It's difficult to build and write a consistent route if the player has the option of skipping all the LI's sex scenes though, since every scene between them would have to account for any possible combination of previous scenes being skipped. If any sex scene is skippable, than all sex scenes become superfluous to the story, which beats the point of a porn game.
If future content on the Fiona path is built around the idea that she and Ashe have had sex, and Fiona isn't in the position yet that she'd be comfortable being the receiver, then of course it might be mandatory for her route to include a scene where Ashe gets fucked by her. Hell, in this episode her character development focuses on her concerns about how her and Ashe's relationship will change due to them becoming sexually intimate.
If future content on the Fiona path is built around the idea that she and Ashe have had sex, and Fiona isn't in the position yet that she'd be comfortable being the receiver, then of course it might be mandatory for her route to include a scene where Ashe gets fucked by her. Hell, in this episode her character development focuses on her concerns about how her and Ashe's relationship will change due to them becoming sexually intimate.
That was before Fiona knows Ashe has a vagina? And she always thinks Ashe is cute and sexy. In the heat of the moment anything can happen.
It wasn't about Ashe. Fiona is not into other futas, that means she is not into be penetrated.
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The point is choice, if there isn't a choice to say "hey, I don't want this, I'm not comfortable with it" then it's better to slap a kinetic tag on it.
You also noted the word 'game'. A game without choices isn't actually a game, it's just a visual novel.
I think this leads it to feeling more Kinetic Novely, which just isn't what people expected with routes/"more" choice being added.
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Considering the plot to HAHT is finding out how a dick grew on a woman and how to cure here, replacing her with a dude would be weird as fuck.
So you're pretty much talking bollocks.
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Removing the choice to skip individual sex scenes does not remove all choices from the game. This game is a visual novel.
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Exactly. Better to slap the Kinetic Novel tag on it and call it safe. The game up to 0.4 did feel like a kinetic novel to a degree, but imo you actually had MORE choice.
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It removes all meaningful choices from a game. If you have a game where the only choice you have is the colour of the ice cream you order for example, that is something that should be considered as a kinetic novel. Completely unavoidable sex scenes is already something that a lot of F95 tends to dislike, and for good reason, and it makes even less sense in a game that has had some decent amount of choices in the earlier updates.
A visual novel isn't a game, a visual novel is literally a visual novel. Correct term would be visual novel software, as a game explicitely notes agency and interactivity.
EDIT- I also want to note that I think a lot of people are apprehensive about the precedence being set.
The Fiona scene is apparently unavoidable if you've interacted with her sexually before (I haven't played the update but that seems to be how it is), and that isn't exactly comforting, especially given the routes available and how they're written.
Imagine if you're interacting with an LI in a game and you decide to kiss, and two updates later you're unavoidably being spitroasted between her and her best friend or some shit without the ability to say no simply because of a choice you made several updates ago. This is a problem no matter how you look at it, even if it's something that the dev wants to do, it isn't exactly something that a lot people will be alright with.