VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.5.1] [MorriganRae]

[doovel]

If there is such a path, then just follow it, what's the problem.

For crying out loud, please tell me what your issue would be if in the game you either had to click "yes, please" or "no, I'd rather not"?

What do you lose?

 

[LegacyV01]

If there is such a path, then just follow it, what's the problem.


Are you talking to yourself?

Because some people like Fiona and don't want her locked off, but also don't want to get fucked by her... and that simply isn't possible.

 

[dolfe67]

The main character is not you, you just make some choices for the story. Sure the paths are more railroad than in other games, but it keeps branching (and development time) in check. If you don't like that, sucks to be you but you're entitled to your opinion. Generally I prefer more leeway with branching, but the writing is so good in this one that I don't mind.

 

[Ciaran8023]

The main character is not you, you just make some choices for the story. Sure the paths are more railroad than in other games, but it keeps branching (and development time) in check. If you don't like that, sucks to be you but you're entitled to your opinion. Generally I prefer more leeway with branching, but the writing is so good in this one that I don't mind.

The game already has a non-sexual branch. All you have to do is to add an option of "hey I'm not interested", fade to black and branch it into the non-sexual branch.
It really is that easy, and plenty of other games utilize this exact thing, so to say that it would somehow take large amounts of development time is disingenuous.

 

[Nynox]

Yo, wtf, why am I crying playing the porn game‽

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

What did you expected? When given the choice you let Fiona finger fuck Ashe until she orgasmed. Did you think that the next step would be what? Watching a random romcom movie together?
The game cannot account for every possibility you just decided to think about it.

Seriously what a tempest in a teacup here. Meanwhile Morrigan's supporters are super happy on discord.

 

[Ciaran8023]

What did you expected? When given the choice you let Fiona finger fuck Ashe until she orgasmed. Did you think that the next step would be what? Watching a random romcom movie together?
The game cannot account for every possibility you just decided to think about it.

Seriously what a tempest in a teacup here. Meanwhile Morrigan's supporters are super happy on discord.

The game doesn't have to account for shit, adding a branching option of "nah I'm not interested in letting you treat me like a free use object because I consented once in the past" and just branching that scene into the non-sexual one isn't difficult, a TON of other games utilize this exact same thing, and it shouldn't be up for discussion as to how it's "a good thing" that the choice isn't there.

 

[Avaron1974]

so to say that it would somehow take large amounts of development time is disingenuous.

No, it isn't.

If the dev goes down the route of making everything in every route optional then that will take a lot of development time.

That was the entire point in making sure everyone knew it was splitting into routes and giving everyone enough warning to make sure they were on the route they wanted.

a TON of other games utilize this exact same thing,

What other games do means fuck all here.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Dev thinks this scene is important, same thing happened with Zoey. That's it. Stop complaining already.

I seem to recall Ashe being bottomed being linked to the choice when they're watching porn. So if you choose the scene with Ruby getting bottomed, that's choosing for Ashe to be interested in being bottomed.

And yeah, much like the scene with Zoey, it may be too complicated to give players the choice.

Because some people like Fiona and don't want her locked off, but also don't want to get fucked by her... and that simply isn't possible.

Perhaps there are no current plans for Fiona to be bottomed by Ashe. So the only way to continue their relationship sexually is for Ashe to be bottomed.

I don't want Ashe to fucked by Fiona either, which is why I made the choices and not got the scene

 

[Dessolos]

ive yet to play the update waiting till the thread gets updated since I dont want to play a compressed version im weird that way. Kind of glad Fiona is the one that fucks Ashe ngl as I don't really want to have a romance with her if im the on doing the fucking since Fiona is a Futa. But i'll have to play it to see how it feels since from what I heard / recall that should be more of the kitten path and not the Siren path. So I'll need to see the context to decide for myself.

 

[Ciaran8023]

No, it isn't.

If the dev goes down the route of making everything in every route optional then that will take a lot of development time.

That was the entire point in making sure everyone knew it was splitting into routes and giving everyone enough warning to make sure they were on the route they wanted.

Except it wouldn't.
If the player decides to continue a romantic relationship, you'll just flag it to utilize that context from then on. If the player decides to cut ties, you just flag it to then route to the non-romantic route.
Both routes are being developed as it is, what you're trying to argue is that it's somehow nigh-impossible to build a bridge between them which is a very basic thing to code.

EDIT- What people don't seem to understand is that no one is asking for ANOTHER ROUTE, no one is asking for more development time, people are asking for a single line between two parallel lines already which is a very basic thing to do in games like these.

 

[doovel]

Yo, wtf, why am I crying playing the porn game‽

The Swedes have a word for this, it's called gråtrunka.

 

[Avaron1974]

Both routes are being developed as it is,

In entirely different branches.

Those are set in stone, you aren't going to get the choice to jump branches, you were already warned about this.

 

[Kontralta]

For crying out loud, please tell me what your issue would be if in the game you either had to click "yes, please" or "no, I'd rather not"?

What do you lose?

Read what I wrote again and you'll see it wasn't me. Dev wanted it that way. You must have missed the complaints about not being able to skip the Zoey scene. Dev said that scene was important to the plot and to Ashe. The Fiona scene is obviously the same.

 

[Ciaran8023]

In entirely different branches.

Which is absurdly easy to re-route into eachother.
You do realize that these branches are literally just flags? And that you can add any scene and flag them however you want, correct?
The dev could take an extra 30 minutes to add a single render, with some text saying "no thanks, I don't really want this" and flag it back to the non-sexual route. It REALLY is that fucking easy, and it's asinine to argue against this existing.

Those are set in stone, you aren't going to get the choice to jump branches, you were already warned about this.

No, we aren't given a choice to jump routes, not branches. You're clearly misunderstanding something here.
A branch is literally just a flag that can say something like "romantic interest 0/1" and whether that is flagged to either 0 or 1 will direct to the proper dialogue and scenes for either romantic or non-romantic. Again, it really isn't difficult to do something like this as most people who are making their very first game utilize this exact concept.

Hell, the best example I can give of how easy that can be is the dinner when Jess gets drugged, you can choose to either get a faceful of splooge or dodge it, and that only changes dialogue. This is literally how a branch works, and how easy it is to implement a branch option when both parts are already finalized and exist.

 

[doovel]

No, it isn't.

If the dev goes down the route of making everything in every route optional then that will take a lot of development time.

That was the entire point in making sure everyone knew it was splitting into routes and giving everyone enough warning to make sure they were on the route they wanted.

What other games do means fuck all here.

This is so disingenuous, it's literally setting the flag to false add in some filler text about remaining friends and jumping to the next scene.

This is such basic programming that's I'm flabbergasted you're trying to argue it's not. It has zero to do with allowing for every single option you can think of. It is quite literally a binary choice "Yes, fuck me" or "No, don't fuck me".

And finally just because you pick a route doesn't mean it's from then on kinetic. What you're arguing is that you should not get a choice like "fwb" or "maybe I want more" either. You know the choice you make that's potentially far more complex than the one mentioned above.

 

[Kontralta]

Because some people like Fiona and don't want her locked off, but also don't want to get fucked by her... and that simply isn't possible.

As I said before, so many people, so many wishes. Dev cannot satisfy every wish of every player.

 

[doovel]

Read what I wrote again and you'll see it wasn't me. Dev wanted it that way. You must have missed the complaints about not being able to skip the Zoey scene. Dev said that scene was important to the plot and to Ashe. The Fiona scene is obviously the same.

As @Cirian8023 already pointed out, this scene is entirely optional. We just want the option to make that choice again, before you get fucked in the pussy.

 

[Johan_0000]

This 100%.
The choice already exist to keep things on friends only terms with Fiona. The dev can't account for every people's desires, specially people on a pirate forum.


Hard disagree on that. This update was focused on the consequences of the choices in the previous update: sex between Ashe and Fiona or just a friendly sleepover; date night with Vanessa; flirting and sex with Lexi.
All those are direct consequences of what the players decided on update 0.4.

That is nowhere near a kinetic novel level.


There will be a public release in november but it already leaked here.

I think what ppl are frustrated abt is more the fact that since now they are on the siren route ("dom route"). They'd have liked it if they could refuse Fiona fucking Ash. Honestly I'm a siren route main and I didn't feel like Fiona was topping (lol).
The whole thing seemed more vanilla than anything. Like I said in a previous com it even leaned more towards Ash topping with her finishing on cowgirl pose and launching a near facial on Fiona.
I also see a lot of ppl talking abt how Fiona was obviously going to dom us. I don't think that's necessarily true. Plenty of ppl have super "dommy" behaviour but in bed, with the right ppl. They become subby and super freaky lol.

To prove what I'm saying I played a variation where I still had dom points but enough sub points to get that Fiona's dream scene. The sex scene with Fiona went a bit differently in that case.
While still on the sirene path, Ash was less "bossy" with her and she came 1st. Plus, instead of getting the cowgirl position we get a sort of spoon position and Fiona either cum on our face or in our mouth.
I think this is a pretty big difference. It proves that like you said, our previous decisions had consequeces. So for all those that played that dream scene bc they were curious abt it. I'd advise them not to, atleast if they want to go full dom.
I think this proves that we may have a dom path with Fiona.
Maybe not for now but as Ashe gets more experienced I can clearly see that happening.

So yeah, for those like me who don't mind Ash being penetrated as long as she keeps her dom role. I think dev/s have some things in store for us. I was honestly affraid we'd fall in the typical if you take it you're a sub but happy to see the dev/s still remember Ash is a duplo and the things penetrating aren't lifeless strapon which are impossible to dominate lol (yk since the partner can't feel anything lol).


I still think there should have been an outing for those that didn't want Ash to be f1cked. Maybe a 69 scene instead would have been ok in that case. Or a way to completely avoid it, even if it meant resetting Fiona to the friend only status. It's true that the choice existed but it existed b4 the branching routes plus nothing specifically said that we'd be the ones fucked and not the other way around.

I think as a dev/s you always have to strive for "the optimal way" in your capacity ofc. And I rly think adding this wasn't impossible for dev/s nor is it too far-fetched story wise. It's not abt it being a pirate site. It's abt knowing what the customers want and adapting to the demands while still managing to keep your signature.
On the contrary having access to this many opinions is a blessing in disguise. As some of them potentially show what a future clientele wants or what some patreon members feel but aren't as numerous as they'd like to make their voices heard. Why sacrifice the minority when you CAN keep them all happy. The keyword is "can", the fact is, I don't think it'd be that much of a hassle for dev/s to add that variation to the sirene path.
I admit though that the only way I see Ash dom other futas is by using her advantage of being a duplo (futas like Lexi are an exception ofc). Yk make them crave having a taste of such rare delicacy lol.
If the dev/s saw it that way, then maybe just make a path where they decide it'd be better to play the safe option and keep being friends.

Like I said, I'm personally very turned on by the idea of domming with both d1ck and pu$$y but maybe for others it ain't the case. So yeah considering them is the way to go I think.



Oh and yeah this is nowhere near what a kinetic novel looks like lol.






THX

 

[dolfe67]

As @Cirian8023 already pointed out, this scene is entirely optional. We just want the option to make that choice again, before you get fucked in the pussy.

I get what you want, it might have been done like that by the dev but they didn't do it so just accept it or move on.

I bet people would have still complained that there was no path to top Fiona anyway