Exactly... we aren't criticizing Fiona, we like Fiona. We wouldn't have let Fiona go down on Ashe if we didn't like her lol. The problem is that YOU get to CHOOSE if Fiona goes down on Ashe, but you DONT get to CHOOSE if Fiona takes her virginity which is a bigger deal than some head. I like that Fiona was the one to take it, and I like how it happened, but not everyone that likes Fiona or that liked an oral only thing with Fiona wants to be FORCED into sex with her. You aren't forced to to let her give you head, but if you do let her then you are forced to take her dick next time you two hangout? This just isn't going to sit right with some people, and rightfully so. I find the argument "well you're on fiona's path so you chose to get dicked by her, and if you didn't want that don't choose her path" terrible.
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Mate you can't be for real, there is literally a path without her being romantically or sexually involved with Ashe. It is such a minor thing to add a bridge back to that path.
That's it. Stop complaining already.
If there is such a path, then just follow it, what's the problem.
Are you talking to yourself?
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For crying out loud, please tell me what your issue would be if in the game you either had to click "yes, please" or "no, I'd rather not"?
What do you lose?
Because some people like Fiona and don't want her locked off, but also don't want to get fucked by her... and that simply isn't possible.
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The main character is not you, you just make some choices for the story. Sure the paths are more railroad than in other games, but it keeps branching (and development time) in check. If you don't like that, sucks to be you but you're entitled to your opinion. Generally I prefer more leeway with branching, but the writing is so good in this one that I don't mind.
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The game already has a non-sexual branch. All you have to do is to add an option of "hey I'm not interested", fade to black and branch it into the non-sexual branch.
It really is that easy, and plenty of other games utilize this exact thing, so to say that it would somehow take large amounts of development time is disingenuous.
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What did you expected? When given the choice you let Fiona finger fuck Ashe until she orgasmed. Did you think that the next step would be what? Watching a random romcom movie together?
The game cannot account for every possibility you just decided to think about it.
Seriously what a tempest in a teacup here. Meanwhile Morrigan's supporters are super happy on discord.
The game cannot account for every possibility you just decided to think about it.
Seriously what a tempest in a teacup here. Meanwhile Morrigan's supporters are super happy on discord.
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The game doesn't have to account for shit, adding a branching option of "nah I'm not interested in letting you treat me like a free use object because I consented once in the past" and just branching that scene into the non-sexual one isn't difficult, a TON of other games utilize this exact same thing, and it shouldn't be up for discussion as to how it's "a good thing" that the choice isn't there.
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No, it isn't.
If the dev goes down the route of making everything in every route optional then that will take a lot of development time.
That was the entire point in making sure everyone knew it was splitting into routes and giving everyone enough warning to make sure they were on the route they wanted.
What other games do means fuck all here.
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I seem to recall Ashe being bottomed being linked to the choice when they're watching porn. So if you choose the scene with Ruby getting bottomed, that's choosing for Ashe to be interested in being bottomed.
And yeah, much like the scene with Zoey, it may be too complicated to give players the choice.
Perhaps there are no current plans for Fiona to be bottomed by Ashe. So the only way to continue their relationship sexually is for Ashe to be bottomed.
I don't want Ashe to fucked by Fiona either, which is why I made the choices and not got the scene
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ive yet to play the update waiting till the thread gets updated since I dont want to play a compressed version im weird that way. Kind of glad Fiona is the one that fucks Ashe ngl as I don't really want to have a romance with her if im the on doing the fucking since Fiona is a Futa. But i'll have to play it to see how it feels since from what I heard / recall that should be more of the kitten path and not the Siren path. So I'll need to see the context to decide for myself.
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Except it wouldn't.
If the player decides to continue a romantic relationship, you'll just flag it to utilize that context from then on. If the player decides to cut ties, you just flag it to then route to the non-romantic route.
Both routes are being developed as it is, what you're trying to argue is that it's somehow nigh-impossible to build a bridge between them which is a very basic thing to code.
EDIT- What people don't seem to understand is that no one is asking for ANOTHER ROUTE, no one is asking for more development time, people are asking for a single line between two parallel lines already which is a very basic thing to do in games like these.
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The Swedes have a word for this, it's called gråtrunka.
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In entirely different branches.
Those are set in stone, you aren't going to get the choice to jump branches, you were already warned about this.
Read what I wrote again and you'll see it wasn't me. Dev wanted it that way. You must have missed the complaints about not being able to skip the Zoey scene. Dev said that scene was important to the plot and to Ashe. The Fiona scene is obviously the same.
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Which is absurdly easy to re-route into eachother.
You do realize that these branches are literally just flags? And that you can add any scene and flag them however you want, correct?
The dev could take an extra 30 minutes to add a single render, with some text saying "no thanks, I don't really want this" and flag it back to the non-sexual route. It REALLY is that fucking easy, and it's asinine to argue against this existing.
No, we aren't given a choice to jump routes, not branches. You're clearly misunderstanding something here.Avaron1974 said:
A branch is literally just a flag that can say something like "romantic interest 0/1" and whether that is flagged to either 0 or 1 will direct to the proper dialogue and scenes for either romantic or non-romantic. Again, it really isn't difficult to do something like this as most people who are making their very first game utilize this exact concept.
Hell, the best example I can give of how easy that can be is the dinner when Jess gets drugged, you can choose to either get a faceful of splooge or dodge it, and that only changes dialogue. This is literally how a branch works, and how easy it is to implement a branch option when both parts are already finalized and exist.
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This is so disingenuous, it's literally setting the flag to false add in some filler text about remaining friends and jumping to the next scene.
This is such basic programming that's I'm flabbergasted you're trying to argue it's not. It has zero to do with allowing for every single option you can think of. It is quite literally a binary choice "Yes, fuck me" or "No, don't fuck me".
And finally just because you pick a route doesn't mean it's from then on kinetic. What you're arguing is that you should not get a choice like "fwb" or "maybe I want more" either. You know the choice you make that's potentially far more complex than the one mentioned above.
As I said before, so many people, so many wishes. Dev cannot satisfy every wish of every player.