If I remember right the built in walkthrough indicate that the Fiona path got locked in during the porn watching scene with her. I really can't imagine that anyone was actually expecting to top her. We already knew from her dialogue that she isn't even interested in the regular futas, Ashe being a duplo just happened to turn her right the fuck on enough to ignore that. Not to mention she's an extremely dominant character. So if someone wanted to avoid Ashe being Fiona's bottom then they should have just not opened her path. We already knew siren Ashe could still be bottom and that kitten Ashe could still be top depending on the girl and the circumstance.
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That part was kinda funny, Fiona just wants to fuck and Ashe is dragging it out trying to hear more. I agree though, It's why Siren is so hard to rate for me. Like Ashe is fine to put the dildo in on Siren path, but then stops it and says its too much when she asks her for a picture???(lol) It's a little odd that it's the picture that is too much for her, but she decides to say fuck it and use the butt plug even tho she literally says she's never had anything in her ass before...lol. Then you have all the Lexie stuff which is a good start for Siren Ashe development. Yeah I do think Morrigan should've added a 69 option or something instead with Ashe on top. Personally I think story/character wise Ashe and Fiona were ready to do it, but I can also understand people not wanting that yet or at all.
I just remembered this. Why is Ashe peeking on Rachel in the shower locked to Cuck Route, I feel like Siren Ashe would try to sneak a peek too maybe I'm just crazy.
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I'd like to see improvement during the chapter, people are currently taking what little they can find in some scenes and apply that universally throughout the episode. Like the scenes with Lexi are midway through the episode, why is she acting shier after those scenes? She should at least be trying to act more confident, going from virgin to a certified sex haver should be a massive confidence boost. We see very little of that. Things that should be impactful in that regard have little of it.
I only played through the kitten/cuck route after someone was asking for some spoilers about them, I agree with your assessment of Lexi. But you see something similar with the redhead, in the cuck route she's made a new friend, who's taller, more muscular and has a much bigger dong than Ashe. So it feels silly when the redhead talks about how big Ashe's dick is with that information in mind and hindsight.
I think this is more of a hasn't defiled her yet. Given the amount of money she paid Rachel, she's likely to continue.
There are some major gripes I have with the siren route that might be tainting much of it:
- The way Ashe just shoves the butt plug up her ass immediately upon receiving it. You only get an option to take it out later, when really on the siren route you should have the option to not shove it where the sun don't shine.
- The lack of variety in trying to play the blackmailer. Ashe often immediately folds.
- On the Fiona route the player should really have more options, denying Fiona the pussy for example. Telling her to lick it first, things of that nature. She doesn't have to succeed in domming, she should be trying though.
- She sounds and looks incredibly uncertain in most of her renders (the eyebrows curving upward at the inner most part), and the constant uhms that are there nearly every other sentence in the more extreme cases.
Ashe should be trying to top, or at least give the player the option for her to try. It's the lack of choice that is more frustrating. That is what "could be bottom" should mean. That could shouldn't mean you will be bottom if you take this route, you can not opt out later. You will just have to accept your fate. Don't just do that and strip away any control from the player. Similarly even if you accept it'd be nice to have to option to break up with her instead of only having fwb or "maybe I want more"
Yes, Ashe could bottom if you're on Fiona's path. Don't go on the path with a character who's obviously designed to be top only if you don't want Ashe to get bottomed. That's your control, don't enter her path if you don't want the content it's going to have. Anyone who spent even 5 seconds thinking about it would've realized that Fiona was gonna top Ashe if you go on her path. It was as obvious as that the sky is blue what was gonna happen, don't blame the dev that you couldn't figure that out.
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Not a bad update, tad short. Though am still pretty sure I am right about the 'blackmailer'. Considering I was right about Dels, despite people dismissing my claim (I'll be sending each of you a horsecock dildo, DM for address infos). Like the Siren but felt... odd I guess with Fiona a little. Kitten path wasn't bad, a tad more there than the Siren path though. Cuck path... meh....
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the cuckquean path also include voyeur kink
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Played the update, on the Siren route. Was hesitant to download based on the reviews about lack of player agency, but I found that most of scenes were how I would have played them anyway.
I was a little worried about forced scenes and lack of content on my path, but no, there was still a good amount, they're just scenes no one else seems to playing and talking about.
I was a little worried about forced scenes and lack of content on my path, but no, there was still a good amount, they're just scenes no one else seems to playing and talking about.
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I blame the dev for providing no off ramp, there is no reason to believe they wouldn’t build that in. There is also no telling what a dev has planned for the next episode.
Just because you’re happy it happens doesn’t mean everyone else should have to accept it. None of the siren path implies that it must happen, only that it could happen.
It’s 2 extra minutes to write in the “no I don’t want to -> fade to black -> remain friends, put the player back on the not rom/sex path”.
Don’t blame the rest of the players if you can’t figure out that could doesn’t mean must.
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Who do you think the blackmailer is?
If I were to hazard a guess it would be Isabella.
She has access to the house and would be one of the few who could potentially see what does or doesn’t happen when you go in with Vanessa[/spoiler]. Wouldn’t surprise me if Rachel accidentally let something slip or if she was overheard.
Great game, great update, particularly the Kitten route. Siren is building nicely. Can't take Ashe from stuttering virgin to bending her step-landlady's mentors best friend over the kitchen table in one episode.
Well, Fiona said she didn't tell Delilah about being a duplo, yet the latter said Fiona told her
doovel
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I think she’s a red herring, but we’ll have to wait and see. She might’ve overheard something as well.
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The story points to Delilah, but I agree with you. It's all toooooo much obvious. I'm really curious where it will end up.
I haven't finished the last update yet.
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It may be something obvious, but my theory of the blackmailer is this new mysterious figure who is with Luna and somehow is also using Delilah to keep an eye on Ashe, I say this because of the strange behavior she has, she seemed very stressed and nervous when she meets Ashe, she probably feels guilty for helping blackmail Ashe and the fact that she needs to get into the party to follow the blackmailer's plan makes me think that my guess is right.
Maybe it's Isabella, although I kind of doubt it, since she was busy organizing the party enough to screw Ashe over, but maybe she pulled it off with Delilah's help, so I still don't rule her out as a suspect.
If you haven't played yet, yes, quite a lot.
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Shorter than I was expecting, and thought it was odd to have Evelyn leave for ~2 weeks. That's what, 4-5 updates? So a few years? Of course she can come back early, but still, kinda odd choice.
I agree that there are a few significant tweaks on the Siren route that would improve it (choice about buttplug, more confidence around streamer, off ramp with Fiona [though I wouldn't take that]), but the incremental improvement is there and good overall. Maybe just should be increased a bit more.
Kitten seems like the canon route and the one with fewest weaknesses. Not my main playthrough, but I see the appeal.
CQ route (and the CQ Content [CQC /s]) is the oddest to me. It's like a completely different reality divorced from the other two routes. It's also the least appealing to me, personally. It makes sense for the Lexi scene, as Ashe's behaviour kind of pushes her away, and a bit for Rachel w/ Natasha. But didn't really land right in my book.
The chapter end stinger should be more exciting/intriguing, but didn't land for me. Though the promise of the party turning into an Elysium fuelled orgy holds promise.
I feel like it was a missed opportunity to have a scene, or build some tension at least, with Spike this update. C'est la vie.
I agree that there are a few significant tweaks on the Siren route that would improve it (choice about buttplug, more confidence around streamer, off ramp with Fiona [though I wouldn't take that]), but the incremental improvement is there and good overall. Maybe just should be increased a bit more.
Kitten seems like the canon route and the one with fewest weaknesses. Not my main playthrough, but I see the appeal.
CQ route (and the CQ Content [CQC /s]) is the oddest to me. It's like a completely different reality divorced from the other two routes. It's also the least appealing to me, personally. It makes sense for the Lexi scene, as Ashe's behaviour kind of pushes her away, and a bit for Rachel w/ Natasha. But didn't really land right in my book.
The blackmail plotline is getting old, fast, for me. I agree that it's being so blatantly pointed at Delilah that I doubt she's the main culprit (though it would have been nice for it to be her, get's caught, sexily punished, plot ends), but I like the theory that she may be assisting the mastermind blackmailer. She was really squirrelly with her phone in the park. What do we know about her internship? Maybe her new boss is the blackmailer, and taking advantage of Delilah's naivete? Which points to Vanessa's mom, just as she's the most powerful individual in the game so far.
The chapter end stinger should be more exciting/intriguing, but didn't land for me. Though the promise of the party turning into an Elysium fuelled orgy holds promise.
I feel like it was a missed opportunity to have a scene, or build some tension at least, with Spike this update. C'est la vie.
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