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I had forgotten about that until you mentioned it, that does give a bit more meat on the bones on the level of persecution and general consensus regarding duplos I think. It's hard to gauge how widespread it is given that we don't really have much information on the rest of the world, but since it's tied to some form of religious view, it's likely to be fairly substantial I'd wager.

The main crux of Ashe's fears is of course rooted in what's going on in her head and with her trauma, but this does give more of an explanation as to how much she fears her secret coming out.
Actually I am sad that we still haven't explored the true cause of Ashe's trauma. It's related to the death of her mentor/mother Jane and how her own psyche blames her for her death. Her nightmares of that Vehicle hitting and Jane being a part of her conscience is an interesting story to tell but well now additional sexual trauma is being inflicted on her and the voice in her head is a dickhead as well. Its not trying to protect her, its pushing her to do hurtful suicidal things.
 
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I thought we were calling Ms. X the one that's about to drug the party? I don't have the game currently, but I don't recall anything that connected the two (blackmailer and party drugger).
I was under the impression Ms X is the blackmailer and the person going to drug the party is Brianna. She probably wants payback for Vanessa and Ashe embarrassing her and flashing her gash on stream.

They're definitely two different people.
 
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I have to agree with manscout here. The voyeur path is just an offshoot of the submissive path. Having three routes just for the sake of it doesn't make sense.
The 'sub' path has better dialog and encounters. For example, Ashe/MC spying on Lexi while Rachel working at Natasha's place doesn't add to MC's character. Which makes the path more passive than it needs to be, what good is the path if you can't even go out with the ones you like? or is that the whole point of the path - that MC is a passive person who is content watching others having encounters.
MorriganRae I need your opinion here.
Also, what kind of route would Ashe have taken naturally if you didn't have to accommodate for three different routes?
i am pretty sure Kitten path is supposed to be the default one. The way even on Siren path, Rapist cop still has a grapple on Ashe in terms of threat and even on Siren path we can't ignore the Blackmailer suggests Siren path may be a lukewarm alternate universe while Kitten path is the main route.
 

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With all the discussion about the different path. For me I'm a little afraid about the party in the next episode, especially about the siren path (mine) because with all the potential elysium in the drink this will become a fuckfest. With if I'm right 5 potential LI (Rachel, Lexi, Vanessa, Fiona and probably Delilah) I hope none of them will do something with another person than Ashe, because for me this will be the opposite of the path. My theory is Delilah will arrive and stop Ashe for drinking and will help her with the girl. I hope is something like that because I really don't want my girl to be touch by someone else.
On another subject really cool update in siren path, Lexi and Fiona scene are really good and of course fuck Natasha.
 

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With the recent discussion that's going on regarding the three different paths. It seems Developer's favored route is Kitten path, since from the start, Dev wants to cast Ashe in a submissive light, her submitting to the sexual harassment of Rapist cop, Rapist cop getting most amount scenes and getting off Scot free. Hell as described in some previous comments, Fiona's last scene in Kitten path is considered better while Siren path is just getting some flavor change. It seems Dev wants to have the cake and eat it (too). They are fully in favor of Ashe being made to submit to Rapist cop and get raped along the line but since some people prefer playing a more Dom character, they are giving scraps in the Siren path. Its a shame but I think Siren path won't be getting many scenes in the future while Kitten path and Cuckquean path would simply because that might have been the Dev's plan all along, Ashe to be submissive and dominated by others and hell even raped by Rapist cop.
I would agree but I want the dev to tell us about the vision for the story.

I was under the impression Ms X is the blackmailer and the person going to drug the party is Brianna. She probably wants payback for Vanessa and Ashe embarrassing her and flashing her gash on stream.

They're definitely two different people.
Sorry but I feel Brianna is def more chonky than the silhouette of the person shown.
 
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Natasha clearly doesn’t have the TV remote control in her hand!

When Ash got through to her sister, we are see Natasha perspective, who is talking on the phone and looking down. I can only assume that Rachel, like Ash(on the kitten's path), sucked Natasha.

Why the dev didn’t show this remains a mystery, maybe this is a foundation for the future, most likely Natasha will not give up trying to woo Ash and will send her photos, or in this way the dev introduces a new character into the plot, Natasha’s neighbor, to whom Ash will turn for the help.
That looks like just her hand to me, at a slightly weird angle, she is not holding anything, also her dick is much bigger than that. I'm not saying 100% nothing happened but its definitely a high possibility nothing happened, since morri said that her path is kitten exclusive. Another point is Rachels main cuck partner for the path will probably be Kleo, more buildup, and teasing. So maybe something did happen, cause some characters will have some scenes on other paths, even if its not there main path, but I feel there is a solid chance nothing happened, and it is just to create anxiety for us and and Ashe with not knowing.
 
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That looks like just her hand to me, at a slightly weird angle, she is not holding anything, also her dick is much bigger than that. I'm not saying 100% nothing happened but its definitely a high possibility nothing happened, since morri said that her path is kitten exclusive. Another point is Rachels main cuck partner for the path will probably be Kleo, more buildup, and teasing. So maybe something did happen, cause some characters will have some scenes on other paths, even if its not there main path, but I feel there is a solid chance nothing happened, and it is just to create anxiety for us and and Ashe with not knowing.
If she's not holding a loaf then MB it's her dick!
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Natasha has a bracelet on her hand, her palm cannot be so big, she is holding something, something darker than her skin, like her penis.
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Everyone sees and thinks in their own way, since the dev did not specifically show what was happening at the moment when Rachel was in Natasha’s apartment, but the kytten path and the neighbor hints at what could have happened! Which has happened more than once: "don’t worry, come in and have some tea!"
 

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If she's not holding a loaf then it's her dick!
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Natasha has a bracelet on her hand, her palm cannot be so big, she is holding something, something darker than her skin, like her penis.
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The above image is literally too light to be her penis based on the below picture you are trying to compare, good job drawing an outline of a blurry photo that you can't see clearly what it is, trying to justify your point, but her hand isn't that small. But believe what you want, we'll see in future episodes.
 
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The above image is literally too light to be her penis based on the below picture you are trying to compare, good job drawing an outline of a blurry photo that you can't see clearly what it is. But believe what you want, we'll see in future episodes.
Does perspective and light source mean nothing?

The object around the edges is a different color!
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I would agree but I want the dev to tell us about the vision for the story.
As well they should, doesn't mean people have to like it. The only thing you can do as a player/supporter is let your voice be known, either through conversation, critique or review and alternatively by withdrawing support or dropping the game.

And this is not a remark on the current quality of the story (outside of the in-depth posts I've made about this episode). The dev telling their story the way they want to tell it, doesn't mean they do it well. The world they build and the rules that do or don't apply can stop making sense, the relationships and how they're build can stop making sense, characters can behave very differently from what makes sense for them and other things of that nature.

In other words you don't have to wait till GoT S8 to recognise it is not of the same quality it once was. For me we're currently in S5 where there was a noticeable drop in quality, but that doesn't mean this dev can't recollect and rebuild it in the next episodes.

I just sincerely hope they make it all worth it with things like the blackmail plot. There's too much intrigue and very little fact at the moment. Throughout several storylines within Eruption Imminent.

Sorry but I feel Brianna is def more chonky than the silhouette of the person shown.
Yes, I checked the calves on the models we've seen so far, but can't pinpoint it to anyone specific. Most models seem to have bigger calves.
 
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See this is the type of in-depth penile analyses we all come to this forum for!
Penile analysis. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:. I can't believe a Rapist is being utilized as the driving point of all major plot points of this story.

Sometimes I think how much if stereotypes are not followed, we could have different stories. hell sometimes I think how Natasha instead of being a corrupt rapist cop, would have been righteous cop. And Ashe could have fallen in love with her gradually. Natasha would have advised her not to do drugs, be a good support towards her and when a relationship would have finally been between them, Natasha would have pitched the idea of Loving submission and domination between them.

A consensual Sub Dom relationship might have grown, hell they could have pursued Polygamous relationship with other LIs or even an open relationship. Natasha could have been a greater support in Ashe's pursuit of resolving her trauma. Instead we got the stereotypical built character with big cock who is a cop being a rapist. Just like every Black character in any porn game exist for the sole purpose cucking the protagonist, but they never are protagonist themselves, and they never actually fall in love with the the lady because they only exist to seduce and fuck and cuck the other dude.
 
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I think you are right. Seeing that render closely, seems like Rapist cop is holding her dick. I think Rachel not only sucked her off. But Since at the end when Ashe comes, the rapist cop comes out as naked and Rachel comes from the bathroom, it seems even more things might have taken place. And Rachel seems to be into NTR, so that might be the case as well.
 
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I think you are right. Seeing that render closely, seems like Rapist cop is holding her dick. I think Rachel not only sucked her off. But Since at the end when Ashe comes, the rapist cop comes out as naked and Rachel comes from the bathroom, it seems even more things might have taken place. And Rachel seems to be into NTR, so that might be the case as well.
Plus not texting for long periods, going over time, Rape cop's reputation, and the bonus $150 (which Ashe didn't even get on the Kitten route, did she?), it beggars belief that nothing happened. It's technically possible, but the probability is racing towards 0.
 
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Plus not texting for long periods, going over time, Rape cop's reputation, and the bonus $150 (which Ashe didn't even get on the Kitten route, did she?), it beggars belief that nothing happened. It's technically possible, but the probability is racing towards 0.
Look at the dialogue. The grunts made by RapeCop. A lot of things may have happened. And Rachel prior to that was talking about how huge her dick is.
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As well they should, doesn't mean people have to like it. The only thing you can do as a player/supporter is let your voice be known, either through conversation, critique or review and alternatively by withdrawing support or dropping the game.

And this is not a remark on the current quality of the story (outside of the in-depth posts I've made about this episode). The dev telling their story the way they want to tell it, doesn't mean they do it well. The world they build and the rules that do or don't apply can stop making sense, the relationships and how their build can stop making sense, characters can behave very differently from what makes sense for them and other things of that nature.
Yeah, just to make my position clear, I'm not demanding that the dev change the story to appeal to one demographic or another, I just think the tri-route hard split is a terrible way of making the player interact with the content that's already in the game. If the dev wanted to write 3 routes with very different stories in a way that would be impossible to keep them all internally cohesive, then I could understand the design choice even if I don't like it. But all 3 routes are still going through the same events and story beats so there's no real improvement to the quality by splitting it, and instead it might be watering down certain scenes by ripping out important bits of it and making them route-exclusive just for the sake of having things you can say are exclusive to one route or another.

There is no reason why the player's decision in how they want to deal with the Natasha + Rachel situation should stretch to everything else in the game, with completely different characters and situations.

There is no reason to have a hard split between "Siren" and "Kitten" because even if you go down the "Kitten" route you can still refuse Natasha and get away by literally kicking her in the dick, so it is not like the "Kitten" route means Ashe will always submit, so why make the arbitrary separation from so many other "Siren" actions?

The "Cuckqueen" route is a bit more divisive because some people feel more strongly about NTR type of content, but making that content a "route" is just so much worse than the old opt-in/opt-out system the game had. The way it works out now is terrible.

First, because anyone that is okay with dipping their toes in that kind of content is fucked now because it is an all-or-nothing deal. Wanted to see funny harmless scenes like walking in with Fiona on a naked Evelyn? Sorry that's cuckroute exclusive, if you wanna see it you need to accept the package deal of being kicked out from potential romantic developments with most of the cast (at the very least missing romantic content with Evelyn, Lexi, and Zoey) and that your route will have much stronger NTR content like whatever is going on between Natasha and Rachel and also Evelyn getting railed by Stella who is a bit of a pig (and maybe drugged her).

(Also why is Fiona seeing Evelyn naked even a "cuck" content exclusive? Wow your best friend accidentally saw your single mom naked for a couple of seconds, you probably creampied her married mom in a dressing room, don't be such a little baby about it.)

Second, because a lot of good content is getting cut out from other routes just because they vaguely "fit" better in the cuck route. I think I made my point with the Fiona + Evelyn scene, but there's no reason why a drunk Lexi shouldn't go have fun with the bartender IF Ashe wasn't giving her any attention, or why Zoey couldn't sleep around with other people, specially IF the player passes on the videocall scene with her. As long as they are optional both to happen and to view, what's the harm in having them accessible on the "Siren" or "Kitten" routes? It would still be up to the player's choice.

Summarizing, the central issue is that picking a route feels less about what you are gaining from it and more about what you are losing if you don't pick it, which makes every choice just feel kinda bad:
-Not picking "Siren" feels like it means giving up on Ashe ever growing a spine
-Not picking "Kitten" feels like missing out on Ashe's more natural initial characterization and better written scenes
-Not picking "Cuckqueen" feels like taking out a lot of organic worldbuilding for a sterile world where nothing happens if the MC isn't directly involved
 
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