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RNG

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I would argue that harems are, in principle, self-serving and not selfish. This may sound like the same shit, but I believe that just because one will form a harem just to get off, it does not mean it needs to be ONLY about that one person. Hence why I categorize the harem between selfish and not.
It sounds like the same shit because it is the same shit. Harems by definition are an inequal relationship where one person has the freedom to fuck around while none of their partners can. It's fine as a fantasy, but it's unrealistic.
One of the routes is an NTR/Cuck route.
I believe that's actually a netorase/sharing route. Could be wrong tho.
 

PhineasFlynn

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I believe that's actually a netorase/sharing route. Could be wrong tho.
You can believe in what you want, but when you call your LI in start ir yours relationship and she fuck some random girl its not so much like sharing to me. When your mother wich is your LI is fucked by some random girl and you jerk in door its not so much like sharing to me. When your another LI fuck bartender while you have call its not like sharing to me either.

Cuckqeen is pure NTR for now. Lets see what time bring to us.
 
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RNG

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So now you wish to move the goalposts to prove your point?

Some cultures and religions still practice it today btw...
That person was describing a "modern" harem where everyone is in love with the same person and has no issue sharing with the other harem members. That's what's unrealistic. Historical harems are pretty far removed from that fantasy. As for other cultures maintaining the practice, well, I'll just say those cultures don't tend to be the most progressive with regards to female rights and leave it at that.
You can believe in what you want, but when you call your LI in start ir yours relationship and she fuck some random girl its not so much like sharing to me. When your mother wich is your LI is fucked by some random girl and you jerk in door its not so much like sharing to me. When your another LI fuck bartender while you have call its not like sharing to me either.

Cuckqeen is pure NTR for now. Lets see what time bring to us.
Yeah I was wrong. Avaron already corrected me on that.
 
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JEER0X

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i just got to playing this again and tried all 3 paths, i had no problem with the Dominant or the kitten but for some reason the cuckquean really got to me but only at the cop/sis part mostly cause i can't see what happened its just implied.
I really hoped the sisters would end up together at some point, feel like Rachel is just in denial of her feelings or at least i hope she is maybe just wishful thinking on my part.
My theory on what will happen is since the gorilla is a cop she probably has security cameras in her apartment and is gonna show Ashe at some point and hurt/humiliate ashe with it.
I had completely forgotten this game and i don't know why it's really good and i found myself Getting really invested in the story i usually just fastskip through alot of these games to get to the action but i pretty much played through the whole game.
I read some others thoughts and i have to agree with some people i kind of feel like Rachel took a random turn all of a sudden if she really did do something with the gorilla cop.
 

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i just got to playing this again and tried all 3 paths, i had no problem with the Dominant or the kitten but for some reason the cuckquean really got to me but only at the cop/sis part mostly cause i can't see what happened its just implied.
I really hoped the sisters would end up together at some point, feel like Rachel is just in denial of her feelings or at least i hope she is maybe just wishful thinking on my part.
My theory on what will happen is since the gorilla is a cop she probably has security cameras in her apartment and is gonna show Ashe at some point and hurt/humiliate ashe with it.
I had completely forgotten this game and i don't know why it's really good and i found myself Getting really invested in the story i usually just fastskip through alot of these games to get to the action but i pretty much played through the whole game.
I read some others thoughts and i have to agree with some people i kind of feel like Rachel took a random turn all of a sudden if she really did do something with the gorilla cop.
To me, the Siren path is Ashe growing more confident and assertive, the Kitten path is surrendering and becoming more comfortable with that, and the Cuckquean path is one where the world is a bit twisted so everyone around Ashe acts in a new way that fits her kink. And she hates herself a bit, but is turned on by it.
 

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To me, the Siren path is Ashe growing more confident and assertive, the Kitten path is surrendering and becoming more comfortable with that, and the Cuckquean path is one where the world is a bit twisted so everyone around Ashe acts in a new way that fits her kink. And she hates herself a bit, but is turned on by it.
yeah sounds about right but that dam cop/Rachel scene just for some reason really bothered me lol
 
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Hungover00

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yeah sounds about right but that dam cop/Rachel scene just for some reason really bothered me lol
That's how the majority of people react to NTR content. It's a betrayal, and that can cut deep. Rachel lies and manipulates her own twin for a bit of cash and a rapist cop.

Edit: No kink shaming, it's just a kink that has a high squick value for many folks. (though consent can get muddy very quickly, which is more of an issue)
 
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Birdnman993

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To me, the Siren path is Ashe growing more confident and assertive, the Kitten path is surrendering and becoming more comfortable with that
I would say the Kitty route is about pleasing others and making them feel good, literally the game says it's about adoring other women.

yeah sounds about right but that dam cop/Rachel scene just for some reason really bothered me lol
For me the most shocking moment of the CQ route was the video call with Zoey, Zoey was Ashe's first time and then Ashe seeing her with someone bigger than her fucking her senseless, being that is a very bitter pill to swallow, that's when I said to myself “fuck this route, I'm out”
 

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I would say the Kitty route is about pleasing others and making them feel good, literally the game says it's about adoring other women.


For me the most shocking moment of the CQ route was the video call with Zoey, Zoey was Ashe's first time and then Ashe seeing her with someone bigger than her fucking her senseless, being that is a very bitter pill to swallow, that's when I said to myself “fuck this route, I'm out”
I personally found that Zoey scene a testament to how good Morrigan is as a writer.

I don't like cq content. I would not consider myself a hater, I just completely do not understand the appeal and what could be the mindset of people who like it. So I also mostly avoided the tag. But the way this was set up, that it is Zoey who took Ashes virginity and then the way Ashes Stream of consciousness is written during that scene at least gave me an interesting inside.

So I will definately keep following that Route.
 

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That person was describing a "modern" harem where everyone is in love with the same person and has no issue sharing with the other harem members. That's what's unrealistic. Historical harems are pretty far removed from that fantasy. As for other cultures maintaining the practice, well, I'll just say those cultures don't tend to be the most progressive with regards to female rights and leave it at that.
That's not what I meant at all and such a union is not unrealistic and, even if it's unrealistic, I was talking about harem as a fetish in games... so yeah, it can be unrealistic no prob. And if you consider what I said as "modern harem" of sorts, does it mean you agree with me that there are different types?

It sounds like the same shit because it is the same shit. Harems by definition are an inequal relationship where one person has the freedom to fuck around while none of their partners can. It's fine as a fantasy, but it's unrealistic.
And also, that's not the 'by the book' definition of a harem. The definition is literally of a housing/place/'set of rules' for guarding and keeping women from contacting with men that are not eunuchs (who were used as the guards of the harem). But the harem was also frequented by young male children, female servants and non-married female relatives. The fuckfest fantasy you mention is a fetishised version of what a harem acually is, so you are arguing with me by using another 'unrealistic' version of a harem. And I was literally talking about harem in fiction. As a fetish. Not the literal thing, I don't even know why you brought literal harens into the talk.

But the closest meaning to what I was talking about is 'polyamorous harem', but not quite it also, the members of the harem don't need to be in love with each other, just need to like and convive with each other without having to dedicate their lives to the harem head. Also I disconsidered all the restriction (all the haram) of the harem, so it's even more detached from the original meaning
 

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That's not what I meant at all and such a union is not unrealistic and, even if it's unrealistic, I was talking about harem as a fetish in games... so yeah, it can be unrealistic no prob. And if you consider what I said as "modern harem" of sorts, does it mean you agree with me that there are different types?


And also, that's not the 'by the book' definition of a harem. The definition is literally of a housing/place/'set of rules' for guarding and keeping women from contacting with men that are not eunuchs (who were used as the guards of the harem). But the harem was also frequented by young male children, female servants and non-married female relatives. The fuckfest fantasy you mention is a fetishised version of what a harem acually is, so you are arguing with me by using another 'unrealistic' version of a harem. And I was literally talking about harem in fiction. As a fetish. Not the literal thing, I don't even know why you brought literal harens into the talk.

But the closest meaning to what I was talking about is 'polyamorous harem', but not quite it also, the members of the harem don't need to be in love with each other, just need to like and convive with each other without having to dedicate their lives to the harem head. Also I disconsidered all the restriction (all the haram) of the harem, so it's even more detached from the original meaning
I mentioned literal harems because the guy I was replying to directly mentioned historical harems as an argument for them being realistic. Obviously, that's not what any of us are talking about when we use the term. That is the point of my post.

Also, you said my definition of a harem is not what you meant and then basically reiterated the same definition. You want a harem where a bunch of people are into 1 guy and are ok sharing him and don't fuck anyone else. Everything else is just an excuse. So what if there are interharem relationships at play? They're still centered around a guy. A harem without a love interest as the focus is just a friend group.
 

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screenshot0004.png Is it just me or these three frames look kinda odd? After replaying it I feel like Ashe's jaw is kind of disproportionate. Even Ashe's blowjob to Natasha, whose dick is significantly larger, doesn't seem to have this problem. Everything about the Ashe and Fiona scene is perfect except this. Hope the Dev notice it and make better blowjob renders in the next update.
 
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