Ciaran8023

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It's basically how I thought it would be, but Morrigan wanted to be poetic in the astral travel to represent the three routes and with that people got a little hysterical.
I've been around in gaming for a long ass time now and usually when a choice or a branch is portrayed in that way, it generally always ends up being a pretty shitty deal, that's why I think a lot of people got worried.
We're basically conditioned to expect the worst because the world of AVN's and gaming in general tends to be filled to the brim with disappointment, so it's much easier to curb your excitement than to get false hope.

Granted, it sounds good in theory but we'll see about the execution of it.
 

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I've been around in gaming for a long ass time now and usually when a choice or a branch is portrayed in that way, it generally always ends up being a pretty shitty deal, that's why I think a lot of people got worried.
We're basically conditioned to expect the worst because the world of AVN's and gaming in general tends to be filled to the brim with disappointment, so it's much easier to curb your excitement than to get false hope.

Granted, it sounds good in theory but we'll see about the execution of it.
I always prefer a centric and unique route with some little variations, as writing different branches is hard and the development time yeet out of the stratosphere.
 

Ciaran8023

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I always prefer a centric and unique route with some little variations, as writing different branches is hard and the development time yeet out of the stratosphere.
Yeah that's also generally how I prefer things, exactly for the reasons you've outlined.
Sure, every once in a while you find a game that can do several routes and do them well, but it's extremely difficult and takes a ton of effort to get the writing, pacing and scenes to work well in the long run.
 

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As usual, this update is a gem, and I can't wait for episode 5.

I don't really understand some people's aversion to route variety. Apart from adding content, it's not going to change anything. Personally, I'd enjoy doing all three routes.
 

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I like this because that means even if i am on the siren path i can still dominate the cop and the futa girlfriend as well.
I doubt you can dominate the cop. The only way I see is blackmail her for sexual favors, and I doubt that Ashe would do such a thing, considering that she herself have blackmailed and not by Natasha. I think Siren-Ashe will be able to avoid Natasha or fight her back, but not to top her.
 
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I don't really understand some people's aversion to route variety. Apart from adding content, it's not going to change anything. Personally, I'd enjoy doing all three routes.
I have only the Kitten route, the others was blocked. That is, I was offered a choice without a choice. And to see all three all three routes, I need to play the game again from beginning. Not a good idea. But the game is still a masterpiece.
 
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I have only the Kitten route, the others was blocked. That is, I was offered a choice without a choice. And to see all three all three routes, I need to play the game again from beginning. Not a good idea. But the game is still a masterpiece.
A strange pretension, considering that each route is clearly determined (you understand what every route is about). All three parts ago you didn’t want your Ashe to be cuckquean or show some dominant side. And now you aren't happy that the game does not allow you to choose something that your Ashe has never demonstrated.
While many people often complain that choices in video games literally change nothing, you're complaining that choices in this VN change something in a too significant way.

And you say "I need to play the game again from the beginning" — as if this isn't a Visual Novel where you can skip through the entire story, but some kind of gameplay grind-fest for tens of hours.

For my playthrough I got the routes I wanted: it's Kitten and Cuckquean, and I don't feel deceived that the game didn't give me the Siren route, because it wouldn't make any sense in case of my playthrough.
 

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A strange pretension, considering that each route is clearly determined (you understand what every route is about). All three parts ago you didn’t want your Ashe to be cuckquean or show some dominant side. And now you aren't happy that the game does not allow you to choose something that your Ashe has never demonstrated.
And you say "I need to play the game again from the beginning" — as if this isn't a Visual Novel where you can skip through the entire story, but some kind of gameplay grind-fest for tens of hours.
While many people often complain that choices in video games literally change nothing, you're complaining that choices in this VN change something in a too significant way.

For my playthrough I got the routes I wanted: it's Kitten and Cuckquean, and I don't feel deceived that the game didn't give me the Siren route, because it wouldn't make any sense in case of my playthrough.
My pretension is not that I was deceived. I wanted Natasha to dominate Ashe and I hope to get that. But it seems to me a bad decision to give the illusion of choice instead of real choice. I may want to look at other routes, but for this I will have to go play the game from the beginning. Yes, I can skip everything, but it still takes time. And I also have to choose the right answer options.
 
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Birdnman993

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I like this because that means even if i am on the siren path i can still dominate the cop and the futa girlfriend as well.
Ashe, with her perception of reality completely altered, is going to dominate a two-meter muscular Amazon, the result: being penetrated until she loses feeling in her legs. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Hey squirrel girl conquered thanos why can't our ashe do the same
It's okay to dream but not abuse it either.
 
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Ashe, with her perception of reality completely altered, is going to dominate a two-meter muscular Amazon, the result: being penetrated until she loses feeling in her legs. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:


It's okay to dream but not abuse it either.
Truth be told what i really see is tag team with Natasha and ashe dominating a character
 

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My pretension is not that I was deceived. I wanted Natasha to dominate Ashe and I hope to get that. But it seems to me a bad decision to give the illusion of choice instead of real choice. I may want to look at other routes, but for this I will have to go play the game from the beginning.
Did you read this post?
Yes, I can skip everything, but it still takes time.
Not much, a minute or so. And at the same time you can look at other dialogue options and what they will lead to.
And I also have to choose the right answer options.
This is the main point of Visual Novels, where choices matter. And as I said already, these three routes are clearly determined, and you know what any of your choice brings you closer to.
 
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Birdnman993

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Truth be told what i really see is tag team with Natasha and ashe dominating a character
Do you mean like double penetrating someone? I don't know, Ashe Dom hates Natasha so we'll have to wait how they end up relating to each other in the next chapters.
 

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Do you mean like double penetrating someone? I don't know, Ashe Dom hates Natasha so we'll have to wait how they end up relating to each other in the next chapters.
True. all I do know Is that the developer laid down a solid foundation for infinite possibilities we just have to wait
 
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