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davemanster

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Thanks a lot mate, reading this makes me happy. In particular the bit about Heather's transformation, since this was something I was so uncertain about while developing it. I was kinda scared I would make her either so ugly at the start that people would think I make shit characters and stop playing at the car ride scene, or I would overshoot and people would be pissed off I changed her. Probably pretty silly in hindsight, but you can get obsessed about the strangest things sometimes.


@alpharenji , @Jackegbert and @KMJ96815 regarding the male clothes:
The male clothes are pretty tricky to be honest. One reason they are what they are is that they were supposed to be humiliating. But the other reason is that there just aren't many male clothes that are the equivalent of the female maid uniforms. Probably not even in real life, but even less as assets I could use. I customize just about anything, but for workload alone I can't also make the models. For guys, there are way less clothes in general, the ones that exist are often lower quality and almost all are either standard street clothes or fantasy stuff. On places like renderotica there are full on fetish clothes, but that wouldn't work as a daily uniform either. If you come across anything I could buy, I'd actually be super grateful if you'd send me a link.
Forced chastity and light feminization would be humiliating and perfect for the MC. That removes a lot of issues with make clothes.
 

NeroZee

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Not quite. At least right now, I'm somewhat certain that you becoming the "master" wouldn't be very credible in the setting. The only way for that to happen would be if you married the Mistress or something, and that just sounds wrong to me. The more dominant path will most likely be about influencing one of the characters to get your way without formally being in charge. Going into much detail here would spoil things, but think more along the lines of a constant power struggle in a fucked up relationship, where both partners are into each other on the one hand, but are still trying to break each other on the other. That gives plenty of room for very hard dominance whenever you gain the upper hand, but is less awkward than pretending the ladies of House Stern would openly bow to some "random" servant.
Yea i would agree with you, if it isn't something you planned from the start it would be very jarring and out of place to introduce it half-way into your development. With that said i do like what you are going for, as long as there is some kind of scenes where you take control over Isabella and turn the tables on her in some way it would be pretty cool.
 

NeroZee

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MC can be dominating to his sister, because he was ordered to, or to Anja because you are nice to her so she took the blame for MC's mistake so he was ordered to punish her. but dominating his mistresses, nah. its gonna be made using some cheap blackmail or corruption... which is just lame. doesn't fit with the tone really either.
Against the main mistress no, she is way too assertive. But Isabella is just a spoiled brat IMO, i can't take her seriously. Also i really don't understand this gatekeeping, you understand that IF the dev would ever implement such a route and since you would not be interested in it you would never even see that route? I don't understand people this need to spoil certain things for others. I personally can't stand scenes with pissing involved but i am not gonna bitch and moan to the dev about those scenes, i will suck it up and skip through them or maybe avoid them if possible, what i am not gonna do is ask the dev not to put in such "lame" scenes because it offends my sensibilities, there are certainly enough people that enjoy that and i don't wanna ruin it for them.
 

trdx

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Also i really don't understand this gatekeeping, you understand that IF the dev would ever implement such a route and since you would not be interested in it you would never even see that route? I don't understand people this need to spoil certain things for others.
You seem to be the loudest around here trying to get your way. :) The situation is also not as simple as you are describing it. This is a zero sum game - multiple routes don't get done by themselves. Doing X route necessarily takes resources away from Y route.

I'm sure everyone will be happy, stop bickering back and forth guys. :)

Just make sure there's a lot of urination included, that's not for debate! At least half of the scenes.
 

NeroZee

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You seem to be the loudest around here trying to get your way. :) The situation is also not as simple as you are describing it. This is a zero sum game - multiple routes don't get done by themselves. Doing X route necessarily takes resources away from Y route.

I'm sure everyone will be happy, stop bickering back and forth guys. :)

Just make sure there's a lot of urination included, that's not for debate! At least half of the scenes.
I have repeatedly stated that it ultimately comes down to what the majority of patreons want and what the dev himself wants, which is why i literally accepted when he told me there probably wont be a route of you being the master of the house or something. So i am not sure where you get this idea that i am trying to get my way here.

It's not a zero sum game but that's true for everything, every route that he does will take away from something else, so it's not really something we aren't aware of. Ultimately its up to the dev to decide what he wants to focus on, not you or me.

I wouldn't dream of stopping you from drinking piss, don't worry.
 
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Just finished the current release and I'm really liking what I see. As others have said, great renders and the story has me very hooked. I love that you don't rush through scenes. I'm a big fan of character development rather than just jumping to the sex scenes, especially for main characters. I loved how long and drawn out the "bush" scene was and how much emotion you captured in the sister's expressions.
 

Henissart

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Too many comments to go one by one, but most are about sexytime content, so here's a couple thoughts about that:
Right now, the amount of dirty content I can include in an update is relatively limited, mainly due to pacing. I think there are two elements to that.
First, the pacing over the course of the entire game. Going too sex-heavy right away would cheapen things and destroy the characters.
Second, the pacing within a chapter. There's a lot of "framework" to build at the start. Introductions to characters and locations, what kind of social dynamics exist at the Estate, what's the daily work cycle like and so on. Inserting sex scenes into all that can quickly feel forced or rushed. So it's pretty important to me to only include scenes that illustrate something about the characters at the same time and to make sure they are somewhat well embedded into the story.

Once all the "introductions" are made, things open up a good bit. I could easily make a couple of updates that focus on sex scenes without progressing the story much. Those scenes would be much more "standalone" than the scenes I can make now. Like little sexy episodes you get to see in between days at the Estate where not much has happened. That allows for a broader spectrum of "niche" fetishes, since the higher volume and lesser story importance makes it easier to let people skip a scene here and there.
 
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First, the pacing over the course of the entire game. Going too sex-heavy right away would cheapen things and destroy the characters.
This is why I joined your Patreon and one thing I love about Visual Novel style games. Just like a novel (book) I think you need time to learn who the characters are and what the setting is that they find themselves in. I think once you have that and have created an attachment between the player and the characters the sex scenes have a much greater payoff. It's not just some strangers banging each other.

My 2 cents anyway. :whistle:
 

LewdLaureate

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Everything seems solid so far. The renderings are all great and I have some emotional attachment to the characters (which isn't the default with games by any means). The MC constantly doing stupid stuff is going to get old a bit quick if we're shoehorned into it though. It kind of reduces the impact of your boss being brilliant and manipulative if it doesn't take that much to do the manipulating.
 

Henissart

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This is why I joined your Patreon and one thing I love about Visual Novel style games. Just like a novel (book) I think you need time to learn who the characters are and what the setting is that they find themselves in. I think once you have that and have created an attachment between the player and the characters the sex scenes have a much greater payoff. It's not just some strangers banging each other.

My 2 cents anyway. :whistle:
100% agreed. It's my main problem with gonzo style porn scenes when they try to do incest or similar. The draw of such a scene is in the knowledge about the characters state of mind, not the sex act itself. Without setup it's just a standard porn scene with a few words changed. Doesn't do anything for me.

Everything seems solid so far. The renderings are all great and I have some emotional attachment to the characters (which isn't the default with games by any means). The MC constantly doing stupid stuff is going to get old a bit quick if we're shoehorned into it though. It kind of reduces the impact of your boss being brilliant and manipulative if it doesn't take that much to do the manipulating.
The MC being stupid has come up a few times.
Let me start out with a defense of the guy: I think many people overestimate their ability to be smart if they get in a genuinely unusual situation. That has at least been my experience in real life. I've travelled a lot and the kind of situations I've gotten into when I misjudged how something works were often spectacularly stupid in hindsight. Don't forget the guy doesn't know he's the protagonist of a porn game after all. There was also always the plan to have him "smarten up" a bit once he understands the situation.

That said, I did write him more goofy at times than I intended. Part of it is that the character changed a bit during development. Part of it is the challenge to write so many of his thoughts whenever you can't write actual dialogue in a scene, combined with him not knowing much about other characters at that point, so you have very little to work with. Part of it is just bad writing.
You'll have to judge it for yourself, but the intention at least is to have him be less goofy and more adjusted to the situation going forward.
 

genmaximo

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Not quite. At least right now, I'm somewhat certain that you becoming the "master" wouldn't be very credible in the setting. The only way for that to happen would be if you married the Mistress or something, and that just sounds wrong to me. The more dominant path will most likely be about influencing one of the characters to get your way without formally being in charge. Going into much detail here would spoil things, but think more along the lines of a constant power struggle in a fucked up relationship, where both partners are into each other on the one hand, but are still trying to break each other on the other. That gives plenty of room for very hard dominance whenever you gain the upper hand, but is less awkward than pretending the ladies of House Stern would openly bow to some "random" servant.
Maybe there could be a romantic relationship with one of the daughters, or they could use the MC "to get back" at their mother, as I don't think that they could have a very healthy relationship with her. Maybe there could even be a coup of sorts against the Mistress, to get a "winning" ending or something.
In any case, I think that the MC will be a tool of the power struggles between the Mistresses, as we kind of saw with the bet.
Obviously, I don't know the characters well enough to know if any of that would make sense, just a thought.

And, if you don't mind answering this, how old is Anja supposed to be?
 

Edelvays

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I dunno, i'm a huge fan of femdom games.
But the "ladies" in this game enrage me so fucking much, i just wanna punch them in the face.
I don't know if i could even fap on that...
Renders are amazing regardless
 

Henissart

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And, if you don't mind answering this, how old is Anja supposed to be?
Don't want to go into too much detail. Anja's background is part of her story. But she's about 40.

I dunno, i'm a huge fan of femdom games.
But the "ladies" in this game enrage me so fucking much, i just wanna punch them in the face.
I don't know if i could even fap on that...
Renders are amazing regardless
Don't know if the enrage and fap part is meant to be a compliment, but this is also going to be on the cover blurb for the boxed release in 2021.
 

Pica-bu

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Ok.. so... renders are great and all that...but... after finishing this update I have just one question in my mind - what the actual shit is this? I mean I don't want to be toxic or something like that... but man.... the story... what the hell was that?... Its a shame because I really like renders... well I guess that this game apparently not for me... and will be one of those, where just right click without reading, just to see pretty renders. Shame:(
 

Edelvays

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Don't want to go into too much detail. Anja's background is part of her story. But she's about 40.


Don't know if the enrage and fap part is meant to be a compliment, but this is also going to be on the cover blurb for the boxed release in 2021.
Glad to help you, buddy.
I mean, i was fine even with [Sadistic Alice] games and they was fucked up. So, yeah, The fact that your characters can evoke some emotions it's rather a compliment.
 

trdx

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Ok.. so... renders are great and all that...but... after finishing this update I have just one question in my mind - what the actual shit is this? I mean I don't want to be toxic or something like that... but man.... the story... what the hell was that?... Its a shame because I really like renders... well I guess that this game apparently not for me... and will be one of those, where just right click without reading, just to see pretty renders. Shame:(
Try one instead. Although it might not be suitable either, since you might get triggered by the apparent choking hazard. Look at all those tiny pieces.
 

Pica-bu

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Try one instead. Although it might not be suitable either, since you might get triggered by the apparent choking hazard. Look at all those tiny pieces.
Oh geeeez... thanks funkman... that's exactly what I was looking for.
 
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Henissart

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@trdx and @Pica-bu
Nothing wrong with different people liking different things. Was never my intention to make something that everyone likes. Doesn't work anyway, and trying it just leads to boring committee design that satisfies no one. So no need to argue about this as far as I'm concerned.
 
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