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Hold on there bud, this guy has got a game to build... oh waitSpeaking of wallpapers, please share the latest one
carry on
- Feb 21, 2020
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Priorities, right? Wallpapers first!Hold on there bud, this guy has got a game to build... oh wait
I think that I literally went through all 5 stages of grief, while coming to terms with the fact that we will most likely never see any more content for this game.
1. So at first I was in denial and kept telling myself that henissart was just running behind and had some personal issues but eventually he would release more content for the game.
2. Second I felt angry at Henissart for lying to us and continuing to post wallpapers. However I felt even more angry at myself for ever believing his lies.
3. Next I thought that, if I called Henissart out, by posting a couple of public comments regarding his behavior on his patreon, he might in turn be motivated enough to get to work and release some new content.
4. Then I just became rather sad when ever I thought about this game, and the fact that another update will never happen.
5. Now I have accepted that Henissart is a douche bag, and that this game will never be completed. Also it doesn't hurt me when i think of this game, not like it once did.
While this loss is very mild compared to other losses I have experienced, I still went through all the stages of grief over this game.
1. So at first I was in denial and kept telling myself that henissart was just running behind and had some personal issues but eventually he would release more content for the game.
2. Second I felt angry at Henissart for lying to us and continuing to post wallpapers. However I felt even more angry at myself for ever believing his lies.
3. Next I thought that, if I called Henissart out, by posting a couple of public comments regarding his behavior on his patreon, he might in turn be motivated enough to get to work and release some new content.
4. Then I just became rather sad when ever I thought about this game, and the fact that another update will never happen.
5. Now I have accepted that Henissart is a douche bag, and that this game will never be completed. Also it doesn't hurt me when i think of this game, not like it once did.
While this loss is very mild compared to other losses I have experienced, I still went through all the stages of grief over this game.
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Oh, I took the one-step "just hate the guts of the absentee bastard dev" shortcut, it saves SO much time...
- Oct 22, 2016
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wow one month to do this render, maybe is working with a 2010's athlon and a gt210? that would explain a lot xD
He did mention that he upgraded his PC recently. But yeah he usually takes a couple of days after the wallpaper poll to make and render the wallpaper
2000 a month is less than minimum poverty wage lmao, especially considering things like patreon doesn't give healthcare insurance. Anyone with his skills can easily get a job that pays 10k a month, or at worst work at mcdonalds. These devs need a lot more money for making porn VNs to be financially viable.
- Jan 28, 2018
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Guys guys guys..... the game is done. The whole thing was a set up, an allegory, if you will, that you will forever be the dominated one, never to get out of the wills of your new owners.
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Getting absolutely shit on for this post but nobody has a counter retort! LOL!
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Here's one:
A) Not everyone lives in the US. What is minimum wage there is a viable income in several countries around the world.
B) Health insurance. Again! Not everyone lives in the US. Basic health care is provided for FREE for unemployed people in several other countries including France , Greece etc
C) To get 10K a month you will have to work a minimum of 40h a week. Do you expect us to believe that this dev spent that much time on average over the course of the game's active development. If he did then he is unskilled and/or lazy and no matter what job he gets he isn't keeping it for long!
D) You do no work you get NO PAY! In this case though you seem to get some cause some people are apparently willing to keep paying for past development. If you ask me he should be getting 0 a month. He should be grateful for it cause at this point it's more like charity rather than patronage.
A) B) From what I can tell he lives in the US so that stuff about other countries doesn't matter.
C) He says he did, and I don't really see any reason not to believe him, the updates were coming regularly for a while at the same time he was getting paid terribly.
D) He worked for a long time for far lower pay than the effort required. He already took the risk it just didn't pay off. For a niche game people need to be way more generous than normal for it to be viable, you know going in it's not going to have the same mass-market appeal and you can't rely on the quantity of customers, the customers need to be 10x more loyal than normal to make up for the 10x lower customer count.
When you grow up and get a job try doing work that's highly skilled but instead of getting paid at market rate you get paid 1/4 of that and at lower than minimum wage, see how enthusiastic to continue the work you are then. Working on this game probably put tremendous stress on his career and his home life, it's an insane gamble, he needed it to be a lot more successful.
I've always tried to avoid posting directly in another game thread like this out of respect, but on the off chance someone connected to the dev or the dev himself reads it:
This is a really well written and immersive game, I wish it was still going. It was one of about four/five games that inspired me to try this as a hobby. You should feel good about the quality of the game, it was great. I'm not speaking about this from a purely kink/porn aspect, but simply the vibe/atmosphere. The truth is that femdom games financially are not often as successful as other genres...so it's tougher to gain traction.
I think you can do this part-time and be fine if you are clear about it to Patrons. You might not make as much as you could doing it full-time (mostly due to slower updates) but you can still make a nice side income. I have found that people can be quite patient and supportive if you just speak plainly about your priorities. This is the approach I have taken (making it very clear I can't update every 2-3 months because of running a real business and other side ventures that just have to have more attention and priority given the large financial/stability/growth potential differences overall) and I think just being clear and transparent goes a long way. I bet you could do an update every 6-9 months and still get more support if it was clear how you were doing things, etc. Another example might be The DeLuca Family -- very busy dev that can't update quickly due to real life commitments, but still holds some decent support due to how he communicates.
I guess this is just my version of what they call a Hail Mary in American football -- and hoping somehow the game isn't abandoned for good.
This is a really well written and immersive game, I wish it was still going. It was one of about four/five games that inspired me to try this as a hobby. You should feel good about the quality of the game, it was great. I'm not speaking about this from a purely kink/porn aspect, but simply the vibe/atmosphere. The truth is that femdom games financially are not often as successful as other genres...so it's tougher to gain traction.
I think you can do this part-time and be fine if you are clear about it to Patrons. You might not make as much as you could doing it full-time (mostly due to slower updates) but you can still make a nice side income. I have found that people can be quite patient and supportive if you just speak plainly about your priorities. This is the approach I have taken (making it very clear I can't update every 2-3 months because of running a real business and other side ventures that just have to have more attention and priority given the large financial/stability/growth potential differences overall) and I think just being clear and transparent goes a long way. I bet you could do an update every 6-9 months and still get more support if it was clear how you were doing things, etc. Another example might be The DeLuca Family -- very busy dev that can't update quickly due to real life commitments, but still holds some decent support due to how he communicates.
I guess this is just my version of what they call a Hail Mary in American football -- and hoping somehow the game isn't abandoned for good.
It just sounds like you don't believe him when he says he was doing it full time. Obviously, he hoped the game would be successful enough for him to do it, but it's not, so he's stopping or getting so demotivated that it's tantamount to stopping, if we wanted to see a different result we should've given him more money.
10k is kinda on the higher end of what you can get from a porn game but I said he was underpaid by 4x and his peak was 1.3k. You need at least 5 or 6k to be livable in the US, this is what's required. It makes no sense to ask him to create works of this quality and then have another full-time job on top of that, that's just unrealistic.
Is it possible to do so? Yes.
Is it a reasonable request to ask him to do so? No. I maintain that asking someone to work at 1/4th market rate and then getting mad when he doesn't, is dumb.
I don't understand why the continual remarks about OECD, if he's in the US then yes that's the only thing that's relevant.
I don't disagree with the rest of your post, but I just want to add that I think this work is imo fairly higher quality than average and I would say better than something like DeLuca Family. That's relevant not in the sense that better quality = more money, because we all know that's not true, but I do think it indicates that this guy probably is quite skilled and is thus in demand, so it just makes a lot more sense to use his skills more productively or at least in a financially rewarding way.
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Haha dude that's one of the biggest ------ on this site one year without an update after the last update took him 7-8 months to release and he said that this one wouldn't take so long, yeah right
... just try and say something about why the update takes so long on that game thread and even this "nice" dev "attacks" you with so much pleasantries...You do realise that this "nice" dev who communicates can be a facade a reverse psychology if you want to the other devs who are not comunicating at all and he actually doesn't do shit in real life (you being a dev should know) and only says that he does, its not like we have proof of any devs that what they say is real, not like you guys are public persons and we know you or i dunno you vlog your life so we can see that what you say is true... gee man you guys not even post on your patreon page i dunno a pic with your work station so we can see with what you work or something else beside wallpapers and preview pics...
Weird how they dont't stop their patreon page as a show of good faith especially and i repeat myself with especially when they say that what they do is a hobby so in theory they wouldn't be affected that they have no income from their hobby...
You wanna have a good dev exemple then RoyalCandy the creator of NoMoreMoney who does this as a side project (is what he says) and that mofo releases good chunks of game monthly without any BS that real life got in his way and bla bla bla...
Yeap that's exactly my thought, they can say whatevar the heck they want without any solid proof is just simple words...
I'll try and stay off the thread now as I think it might veer off topic, but if you are following DeLuca closely, you may have more info than I. I can only say that I saw him post recently blaming himself for the delay, and he's only lost about 100 Patrons from a year ago. Beyond that, I don't know as I was a Patron of his game about 1-2 years ago, and stopped support after I believe a six month delay in the past. I certainly would like to hear the perspective of current Patrons more than anyone else as they might have more insight.Haha dude that's one of the biggest ------ on this site one year without an update after the last update took him 7-8 months to release and he said that this one wouldn't take so long, yeah right
You do realise that this "nice" dev who communicates can be a facade a reverse psychology if you want to the other devs who are not comunicating at all and he actually doesn't do shit in real life (you being a dev should know) and only says that he does, its not like we have proof of any devs that what they say is real, not like you guys are public persons and we know you or i dunno you vlog your life so we can see that what you say is true... gee man you guys not even post on your patreon page i dunno a pic with your work station so we can see with what you work or something else beside wallpapers and preview pics...
Weird how they dont't stop their patreon page as a show of good faith especially and i repeat myself with especially when they say that what they do is a hobby so in theory they wouldn't be affected that they have no income from their hobby...
You wanna have a good dev exemple then RoyalCandy the creator of NoMoreMoney who does this as a side project (is what he says) and that mofo releases good chunks of game monthly without any BS that real life got in his way and bla bla bla...
I'm not sure why you are even bothering to post what is completely obvious to all but the most non-intellectual troglodytes -- of course Patrons can't know certain information for sure. But people can and do make financial decisions based on limited information but also prior evidence/track record, and that's their decision/prerogative. I'm also not sure why you feel it's so relevant to see a pic of their work station absent unique circumstances regarding such? The work product and updates should speak for themselves. (at least it does for me, good games/scenes are self-evident regardless of the system being used)
Some devs do cancel their page at times (I have personally done it twice including just last month) if they feel they haven't had the proper time commitment to their project due to real life business, etc. And I would advise any game dev to do weekly updates at roughly the same time each week -- every single week. (I do this, and so does RoyalCandy btw, very familiar with this dev)
Last, using a phrase like "you guys" to broad brush stroke game devs says more about your state of mind than the rigor of your reasoning. I certainly hope you apply deeper and more compartmentalized/specific analysis in other facets of life. Anyway, I'll bow out of the thread, as the original intent of my first post was just a hopeful throwaway, as of course I understand the likelihood of something regarding this game happening...but I still hope.
If you're not requesting nor mad then I'm not talking about you, there are people who are visibly angry in this thread though.