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I think that with that scene, Caribdis has likely made his opinion known on that issue.
We saw what "they're only lines of code" led to in Westworld....
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We saw what "they're only lines of code" led to in Westworld....
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Jinx! Your it!
That whole childhood thing when two people say the same thing at the same time.
Take your pick
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There are many things I will not do in-game, not because of the fictional characters, but because I do not want to do them. To do so would probably have a detrimental effect on my own psyche.
Also, I expect that one reason why "digital/cartoon CP" is illegal in most jurisdictions is that such material could easily be used as an aid to the grooming of real kids.
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Dr Pepper is my go to, but I've kind of been having nostalgia about high school when I worked at Taco Hell and would get a 32oz "Pepper-Dew" at the beginning of shift. Something about post-mix soda, properly brixed, at that perfect 42F, and the right mix of caramelly mellow Dr Pepper, and the sweet jet fuel that is Mountain Dew. Gonna have to catch you again so I can get my mix on.
Loli porn is actually legal in most countriesthat allows porn, including America.
I'm not making you or the Dev do anything, all I'm saying is that virtue signaling is a dumb move, especially if you make porn.
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It isn't "virtue signalling" to show folks where you draw the line. Not all porn is equal.
The mods have been made aware of this long drawn out defense of digital pedophilia and, with any luck, this entire line of defending the indefensible will be erased from our sight. Even if it isn't, you are being erased from my sight, and I suggest anyone else that's tired of this do the same. Take away a troll's audience, and the troll eventually leaves.
The mods are aware of how right the arguments are, and that's why pre-pubescent loli porn is allowed on this site. It's only some obscure laws that MIGHT be applicable if a lawyer forced it enough that prevents them from just flat out allowing all of it without the "Age must not be mentioned" clause.
Morally there is nothing wrong with it, legally it's obscure and almost never enforced. Heck, you can buy loli porn merch of explicitly stated pre-pubescent characters like the Prillya girls off of Amazon.
It really says a lot that you have to resort to calling those who disagree with you "trolls" when they're just having a sincere discussion with you.
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Then I present to you what would have been my go-to Taco Bell drink if it had been offered:Dr Pepper is my go to, but I've kind of been having nostalgia about high school when I worked at Taco Hell and would get a 32oz "Pepper-Dew" at the beginning of shift. Something about post-mix soda, properly brixed, at that perfect 42F, and the right mix of caramelly mellow Dr Pepper, and the sweet jet fuel that is Mountain Dew. Gonna have to catch you again so I can get my mix on.
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...Are you legitimately equating the crimes of the pedo in-game to what is essentially liking loli porn?
Because Honey Select 2 anime-esque art style aside, the entire selling point of Eternum (the in-game VR game, not this VN) is "more real life than real life," so the NPC kid is essentially something that absolutely looks like a real kid in the Caribdiverse.
And unlike loli porn where you can make the argument that some people (emphasis on the some...because I'm pretty sure there's a subset of monsters who hide under the loli art shield that are into characters that are literal kids in their respective anime universes) are drawn to the art style and the "gap moe" (like the age old case of liking an older character than acts like an older character but looks like a kid), it's hard to defend someone who essentially lusts for something that talks like a kid, acts like a kid, and - in their universe - absolutely looks like a real kid.
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Since most of them put the post-mix where you can get to them, now, you can do your own.
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The only Taco Bell in the area that survived the pandemic doesn't have that for Freezes ... and I can't eat there anymore anyways.Since most of them put the post-mix where you can get to them, now, you can do your own.
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I don't remember sushi....
The sushi scene was one of my favourite scenes in the entire game.
The music totally cemented it (for those who play without sound, it's worth going back to this scene and putting the sound on!
)And Alex's attempt to underplay the awesomeness of the sushi:
mc: "This is not normal sushi! It's like... having an orgasm in your mouth!"
Alex: "Oh, for fuck's sake, don't overreact. It's just a handful of rice with a slice of tuna on top of it."
mc: "TASTE IT!"
Alex: "*Sighs*"
Alex: "Fine, I'll eat one. Will you shut up and start focusing if I do?"
mc: "YES!"
Alex: "*Eating the sushi* Mmph..."
Alex: "*Eating the sushi* Mmhappy? Can w--"
*Mouth Orgasm Time*
mc: "AND?!"
Alex: "(Sweet Mother of God, this shit is divine.)"
Alex: "(It's the best thing I've ever tasted. It’s like the nectar of the gods.)"
mc: "It's amazing, isn't it?"
Alex: "*Clears throat* Um... y-yeah, it's not... n-not bad."
mc: "NOT BAD?!"
Alex: "O-Okay, enough!"
Alex: "We didn't come here to drink and eat, mc!"
mc: "Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry."
Alex: "No more distractions!"
Alex: "Dalia, Nova, and all the others are counting on us! So we need to stay focused, no matter how ridiculously good the food is here."
mc: "So you admit that that sushi was amazing!"
Alex: ". . ."
Alex: "Jesus Christ, it was glorious! How can it be so fucking good?! Do you think we can sneak a platter out of Eternum?"
mc: "Right??!"
Alex: "It was like... having an orgasm in your mouth!"
mc: "I know!!!"
Even the final, "I know!!!" is just golden to me. It's like the dev looked into my brain, found out exactly what would make me laugh my ass off, then then wrote it down.
Incest, violence, rape, murder, all of these "illegal-in-the-real-world" things in a fantasy setting can be exciting for a lot of people, but many people draw the line at paedophilia. When the movie Snatch was being created, Guy Ritchie wanted to make Brick Top come across as truly horrible, and they first considered a paedophilia ring, but then felt that would just suck the fun out of the movie, and went with dog fighting instead. Me personally, I don't want to see a kid being abused in the real world, a movie, or a game, even if that kid is a fictional character inside a fictional game setting. Some plots warrant it, but if I could step in and put a bullet in the offending character's head, I'd do it.Killing someone trying to be a predator and harm a child isn't illegal - it's called defending the innocent and is a public service. Not as brutal as they deserve, though. Putting them in GenPop with murderers and telling them what they're in for would be better - after they've been brutalized in every possible way, a broken broomstick from the anus to the throat and being left to bleed out would be much, much better.
Of course, my simp mc checked which option would result in the most Alex points, and then I put a bullet in the cunts head.
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Ah: that. I remember now. I do love good sushi, both the kind you consume, and the kind you merely eat.The sushi scene was one of my favourite scenes in the entire game.
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The music totally cemented it (for those who play without sound, it's worth going back to this scene and putting the sound on!
And Alex's attempt to underplay the awesomeness of the sushi:
mc: "This is not normal sushi! It's like... having an orgasm in your mouth!"Alex: "Oh, for fuck's sake, don't overreact. It's just a handful of rice with a slice of tuna on top of it."mc: "TASTE IT!"Alex: "*Sighs*"Alex: "Fine, I'll eat one. Will you shut up and start focusing if I do?"mc: "YES!"Alex: "*Eating the sushi* Mmph..."Alex: "*Eating the sushi* Mmhappy? Can w--"*Mouth Orgasm Time*mc: "AND?!"Alex: "(Sweet Mother of God, this shit is divine.)"Alex: "(It's the best thing I've ever tasted. It’s like the nectar of the gods.)"mc: "It's amazing, isn't it?"Alex: "*Clears throat* Um... y-yeah, it's not... {size=27}n-not bad."mc: "NOT BAD?!"Alex: "O-Okay, enough!"Alex: "We didn't come here to drink and eat, mc!"mc: "Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry."Alex: "No more distractions!"Alex: "Dalia, Nova, and all the others are counting on us! So we need to stay focused, no matter how ridiculously good the food is here."mc: "So you admit that that sushi was amazing!"Alex: ". . ."Alex: "Jesus Christ, it was glorious! How can it be so fucking good?! Do you think we can sneak a platter out of Eternum?"mc: "Right??!"Alex: "It was like... having an orgasm in your mouth!"mc: "I know!!!"
Even the final, "I know!!!" is just golden to me. It's like the dev looked into my brain, found out exactly what would make me laugh my ass off, then then wrote it down.
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The sushi scene was one of my favourite scenes in the entire game.
View attachment 2832904
The music totally cemented it (for those who play without sound, it's worth going back to this scene and putting the sound on!
And Alex's attempt to underplay the awesomeness of the sushi:
mc: "This is not normal sushi! It's like... having an orgasm in your mouth!"Alex: "Oh, for fuck's sake, don't overreact. It's just a handful of rice with a slice of tuna on top of it."mc: "TASTE IT!"Alex: "*Sighs*"Alex: "Fine, I'll eat one. Will you shut up and start focusing if I do?"mc: "YES!"Alex: "*Eating the sushi* Mmph..."Alex: "*Eating the sushi* Mmhappy? Can w--"*Mouth Orgasm Time*mc: "AND?!"Alex: "(Sweet Mother of God, this shit is divine.)"Alex: "(It's the best thing I've ever tasted. It’s like the nectar of the gods.)"mc: "It's amazing, isn't it?"Alex: "*Clears throat* Um... y-yeah, it's not... {size=27}n-not bad."mc: "NOT BAD?!"Alex: "O-Okay, enough!"Alex: "We didn't come here to drink and eat, mc!"mc: "Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry."Alex: "No more distractions!"Alex: "Dalia, Nova, and all the others are counting on us! So we need to stay focused, no matter how ridiculously good the food is here."mc: "So you admit that that sushi was amazing!"Alex: ". . ."Alex: "Jesus Christ, it was glorious! How can it be so fucking good?! Do you think we can sneak a platter out of Eternum?"mc: "Right??!"Alex: "It was like... having an orgasm in your mouth!"mc: "I know!!!"
Even the final, "I know!!!" is just golden to me. It's like the dev looked into my brain, found out exactly what would make me laugh my ass off, then then wrote it down.
Incest, violence, rape, murder, all of these "illegal-in-the-real-world" things in a fantasy setting can be exciting for a lot of people, but many people draw the line at paedophilia. When the movie Snatch was being created, Guy Ritchie wanted to make Brick Top come across as truly horrible, and they first considered a ********** ring, but then felt that would just suck the fun out of the movie, and went with dog fighting instead. Me personally, I don't want to see a kid being abused in the real world, a movie, or a game, even if that kid is a fictional character inside a fictional game setting. Some plots warrant it, but if I could step in and put a bullet in the offending character's head, I'd do it.
Of course, my simp mc checked which option would result in the most Alex points, and then I put a bullet in the cunts head.
Ah: that. I remember now. I do love good sushi, both the kind you consume, and the kind you merely eat.
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Too bad Alex never got to get her hands on more sushi to smuggle it out of the Rockefeller server.
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And the mc found an eternal spring of sushi, so all's well that ends well.
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It's really simple to defend it actually. Leaving aside the whole "the NPCs might be actual people" thing, the other player has no reason to believe that the NPC is anything more than lines of code, an object. Child abuse is wrong because it harms children, but regardless of whether the other player is a pedo or not, if the NPC really is just lines of code then he isn't harming anyone.
And again, this is more about how the Dev had to virtue signal like this by bringing internet arguments into his game.
Morals aren't about feelings, and just because you can't stomach those things happening in fiction it doesn't mean there aren't other who can. At the end of the day it's fiction, so morality really doesn't even apply to it.
And yeah, same, of course I'm going to choose the option which gives more affection points. Just sucks that it's the option that affirms the Dev's virtue signalling.