You could make the case Chang as well. Bro has done much for us. MCxChang, 2030.
Apologies for torpedoing your ship, but the mad lad's got eyes only on this angel (or someone ready to grind the Avengers into dust). He even wore this item proudly back at the gym's competition:
Wait till Marcela asks for us and we tag team her with Chang. Bro of ours will swoon.
Well tough luck because canonically Chang may be his best friend, but he's NOT his bestest friend.
The entire Star Wars saga wouldn't have happened without Jar Jar Binks. The Lord of the Rings wouldn't have happened without Celebrimbor. Remember him? Being a functionally important character doesn't make one an interesting character. :
Quite funny because I feel like it's the contrary for me, she's been underused by Caribdis (always making fun of her,scaredy-cat during the horror part,...) and not at all overrated
The part of her being the childhood friend only makes me want to put her on top of list (I always root for the childhood friend in Anime/series since they are generaly more "genuine")
And she's been useful too:
-She's the reason Orion came back to Kredon, he said it himself
-She has introduced Eternum to Orion and gave him 1200 Eternals (Which represents 1200 dollars, for a 18 year student that represent quite a lot of money)
-She's the one who stole the gem of Doom during the Heist
-She's the one who discover the truth during the dectective part during the 0.6 update
So I don't think she's been useless.
You mean Michaela. And if such scenario were to happen, those two better be ready for a long stay at the hospital. Kind of like this:
Why do you think Annie herself thought back at the trenches that everyone saw her as useless. That hit her very hard, and it was made even worse after she became unintentionally an artillery spotter rather than a nuking mage.The entire Star Wars saga wouldn't have happened without Jar Jar Binks. The Lord of the Rings wouldn't have happened without Celebrimbor. Remember him? Being a functionally important character doesn't make one an interesting character. :
My problem with Annie isn't really with Annie, but with how underused she is. Her initially most defining trait (being really into/knowledgeable about Eternum) loses its significance once the other characters start getting good at it, too. I wouldn't mind a story development that really reminded players of/drove home who the real Eternum wiz is.
That wasn't what I argued against. My argument was against the statement that she hasn't done "anything remarkable" to Orion other than give him a bunch of Eternals. The mere act of having her come to Kredon with him (which convinces him to go through with the Exchange Program) is by itself already a remarkable thing.The entire Star Wars saga wouldn't have happened without Jar Jar Binks. The Lord of the Rings wouldn't have happened without Celebrimbor. Remember him? Being a functionally important character doesn't make one an interesting character. :
Because that's part of her story arc: she's supposed to be this Eternum veteran who is somehow being thrust out of her element due to the gem hunt taking her to places she's not accustomed to going (i.e. spooky places, places that utilize brain than brawn, places where she can't use her destructive magic) and being surrounded by all these women who have a lot of things going for them in the looks department. She's meant to be this scaredy-cat who will have to step up and rise to the occasion (and is also reflected with how she's coming out of her shell when it comes to her relationship with Orion). If anything, it's in the late game where she's likely going to shine as she's still in the phase where she's learning to assert her dominance and shit.
Yea, it's not like that was an accidental moment either. Caribdis is definitely teeing up Annie. I don't think she's going to be thought of as useless much longer. Solving the collector's riddle was just the first step.
If that continues, Annie might burst into tears for real. Like this chibi shared some pages back:
This is all stuff we're told, not shown, about how important she is to the story.Quite funny because I feel like it's the contrary for me, she's been underused by Caribdis (always making fun of her,scaredy-cat during the horror part,...) and not at all overrated
The part of her being the childhood friend only makes me want to put her on top of list (I always root for the childhood friend in Anime/series since they are generaly more "genuine")
And she's been useful too:
-She's the reason Orion came back to Kredon, he said it himself
Yup, and this trait gets criminally underutilized once the other characters get good at Eternum.
Everyone had a role to play in the Heist.
That's legit. I'll give you that. Not only is she functionally important here, but her *character* actually brings something to the situation. We need more of that.
I'm off to work so I can't really reply to you but I don't get why some of you are trying so hard to prove us that she's been useless and that she hasn't done remarkable things. All LI of the Harem are irremplaceable and useful,on that note have a good day
.I'm not. I'm pointing out that being functionally important to the plot is not the same thing as being interesting or appealing or compelling as a character. Celebrimbor did remarkable things. Is he an interesting character? Heck, Aragorn did remarkable things. Is *he* an interesting character? (in the books, that is? He's actually given some humanity and personality in the movies). You might think he is, but pointing out all the "stuff" that he did won't make your argument for you.I'm off to work so I can't really reply to you but I don't get why some of you are trying so hard to prove us that she's been useless and that she hasn't done remarkable things. All LI of the Harem are irremplaceable and useful,on that note have a good day
The fact you're using extremely bland characters as examples is kinda unnerving. Tolkien's characters are not interesting because he focused largely on world-building and not much else. The characters are here to be useful, but other than that they clearly lack deeper character traits that would make them "interesting".
I'd argue that seeing her struggle despite being a supposed veteran of Eternum already makes her far more interesting compared to how other veteran protagonist/major characters in fiction centered around MMOs are portrayed. Even in the WRE vs. Wagner Group event we already see the typical "heroine vets curbstomp mooks" thing going on with Alex, Nova, and Luna's segments during said event (and honestly that's kinda boring once you've seen it played out in every other media that portrays the same trope), so seeing at least ONE of them legitimately not being able to show off is only going to push her hard into eventually stepping up and not just being complacent as a nuke mage vet. But again, we're likely going to see that payoff later as her character arc develops further.
