They are examples intended to distinguish between functional importance and character development. A character can be both functionally important and totally bland. Thus, giving examples of how functionally important a character is does nothing to establish how interesting they are. That's just not how you argue that a character is good. I'm not sure why making that point would be "unnerving" to you.
Oh boy you're really gonna make me do this again aren't you ? This is unnerving because Caribdis make well-written characters, whilst Tolkien's characters are bland and only here to serve the story and the world they're in. The fact you can't see that and compare two different style is unnerving to me because it shows you can't see the quality of character's writings, and yet still comparing them.
Shame on you for trying to poison the well like this. There is nothing wrong with people not liking the same things you do. Not everybody finds Annie particularly interesting and appealing. There is nothing wrong with that, nor with them.
I'd argue that, since most of people here likes each LI, you are the one trying to poison the well. Plus, like I said, it's all about the quality of character's writings. Annie is interesting and appealing, because she's well written. So if someone can't appreciate it, it's on them. I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just saying that "Annie is not interesting or appealing" is a false statement. She is, and if YOU or anyone else is not interested, it's not because of the character, it's on you. Say "I AM not interested" instead of "SHE IS not interesting", and I'll stop bothering you. The character is great, if anyone can't appreciate it it's on them. Not saying it's wrong, just saying the character don't need to be changed by your opinion, just as your opinion don't need to be changed by the character.
Oh, also. There's a difference between being interested and liking. Caribdis write his characters well so all of them interest me to a degree. I find Axel and Alex's father very interesting, even though I don't like them. Dislike all you want, don't be interested all you want, just stop trying to blame the character's writings and we'll be good.
I don't have a problem with the idea that Annie has some interesting traits. I feel they have been underdeveloped so far. One of the main traits that initially set Annie apart from the other characters was her enthusiasm for/knowledge of Eternum. That got leveled out as the story progressed . Now everybody's playing.
Well see that's where you're wrong. Annie is interesting not only for her enthusiasm / knowledge of Eternum, but also because she's nice. Her being a scaredy cat, and her growing out of being nervous all the time is part of the character and one other reason why she's interesting. Her trying to prove to everyone she's useful is also part of her character. There's other traits you (and probably others) don't appreciate. Maybe because you're blind to them or because you just don't find them interesting. The fact is, her enthusiasm and knowledge for Eternum is not her only interesting trait. She is different from the other LI, she has her own character traits that make her interesting.
Another thing that comes up in the detective sequence is that she is perceptive, intuitive, and empathetic. Those traits see her through that situation even when her magic powers are useless. If she's being "teed up" as another poster suggested, I hope it has something to do with that and not "she just needs to believe in herself" or "she just needs the right situation to shine/ to evolve a new power."
The issue with too much expectations is that you don't see the character but what you want them to be. That's a thing that happen to a lot of people watching or playing fictions. My view is : the fact she shows that she's perceptive and intuitive just add to the whole character. We already seen that she's empathetic before so that's not new, but my point is that it just adds to the whole character. That moment was great.
Maybe you shouldn't get so upset that other people aren't fascinated by the same characters you are. If you can't have that discussion without upsetting yourself, try doing something else. Getting mad at people for saying they don't see what you see in a fictional character isn't healthy.
Yes, I know it's not healthy. I'm trying to cope with the fact that people can't appreciate good stuff and then use bad arguments to support why said things are "not interesting". You answering me is not helping tho.
Although trying to prove to people on the internet that a fictional character they like is not interesting seem equally unhealthy. That's another example of trying to shift the blame, which I understand. People do that very often and it's difficult to get past that. Like "oh this character is very uninteresting, it's not at all because I AM not interested that I think so, it's just the character".
Nice try btw.
