VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[Rehwyn]

because that kind of relationship is mentally damaging, regardless of how it manifests
it does permanent, significant damage to a person's mind and ability to function socially and emotionally
preventing people from hurting themselves is the reason why nearly all laws exist

I agree that no matter what line you draw in the sand, there will be arguments for and against it

This certainly can be the case when it includes someone underage, a power imbalance, and/or a lack of consent. But I think you'll find a shortage of evidence supporting the harm you mention when it concerns consenting adults.

Regardless, I'd be very surprised if it ended up here given Patreon's policies and Cari's statements.

 

[sexypeanut]

I mean, releasing the cards and playing around with them in the privacy of your rig is one thing. Making a mod out of them where you write whole new scenes plus make sure they match the quality of the source material is another beast entirely.

Absolutely, but since Cari doesn't want to lose his Patreon, peeps will be free to make up incest scenarios as they wish once the cards are available.

 

[senpai665]

The code is pretty dense, no spaces, so I think we can divide by 2 and get an approximate number of lines of dialogue.

Spoiler: Code sample

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What? This looks so easy. Is it in renpy? Where does the developer make their animations?

 

[khumak]

First game was made at a time when Patreon enforcement on existing rules against incest content was lax so he was able to get away with the final scene. Now the guidelines have been updated to reflect a stricter policy and enforcement isn't as lax, so Cari decided to play safe regarding the threesome content with the Carters. Sad, but it is what it is.

Yeah I would imagine that if there were no Patreon and/or Steam rules against it we'd have incest again, but with the current rules for Patreon that will have to be a mod if it happens. There's a reason so many games have the Landlady/Tennant thing in it. It's a stupid rule and easy to get around with a trivial find/replace mod. Presto, some modder added incest to my game. Nothing I can do about it...

 

[Sarvis]

What? This looks so easy. Is it in renpy? Where does the developer make their animations?

The hard part is not programming it. The hard part is to create a good story, good renderings and good animations.

 

[Finuee]

What? This looks so easy. Is it in renpy? Where does the developer make their animations?

It is Ren'Py, but it's not as easy as it looks when a project escalates. It's not really a robust programing framework for big projects, but it lets you do VNs pretty easily. The renders and animations are made in Honey Select. I think it's Honey Select 2, but I might be mistaken.

 

[xyzyzyz]

I mean come on. Doesn't that makes the girls attractive ?? Or Am I the only one who feels it here apart from most men ??


I mean in reality they do get darkened with age but still have pink color or red color in them. Mostly I don't believe anyone wouldn't have seen girls with different colored nipples.


It's true though. But still attractive trait. Some females do try some medicines to do that ??

And come on guys what about rest thing I said??
How about this ?? What's your opinion??

Anyone??

Does anyone feels the same ?? May be Second Part of the game would have been wonderful.

Because he promised way back when Eternum was announced that it was going to be bigger and longer than OIAL's story. So long that the original scope was to be "between 12 and 20 updates." But apparently he probably thought that was too long, so he truncated it to 13.

May be he could have used Part 1 and Part 2. As the game when came out had one update in 3 months so we're having 4 updates a year. Then game got 1 update in 4 months meaning 3 updates a year. Then 1 update in 6 months so 2 updates a year and as if currently last 2 updates 8 months for 1 update so 1.4 months for 2 updates. I know you'll say content is increased but don't you expect Dev's to get better doing renders efficiently over every update ?? Also what about promise of delivering 3-4 updates a year ?? I suppose it got overshadowed with how the game is super popular.

 

[Dorfnutter]

May be he could have used Part 1 and Part 2. As the game when came out had one update in 3 months so we're having 4 updates a year. Then game got 1 update in 4 months meaning 3 updates a year. Then 1 update in 6 months so 2 updates a year and as if currently last 2 updates 8 months for 1 update so 1.4 months for 2 updates. I know you'll say content is increased but don't you expect Dev's to get better doing renders efficiently over every update ?? Also what about promise of delivering 3-4 updates a year ?? I suppose it got overshadowed with how the game is super popular.

Efficiency has nothing to do with it. Cari just wants to take the time to come up with the best looking renders rather than just churn out updates and call it a day.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Nancy has many possibilities for a threesome, especially if it happens inside Eternum. Wanting her to have something with Penny or Dalia would be great, but just because they´re all hot. The incest kink doesn´t do anything for me.
That said, Nancy with Nova and/or Alex would be amazing.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Yeah I would imagine that if there were no Patreon and/or Steam rules against it we'd have incest again, but with the current rules for Patreon that will have to be a mod if it happens. There's a reason so many games have the Landlady/Tennant thing in it. It's a stupid rule and easy to get around with a trivial find/replace mod. Presto, some modder added incest to my game. Nothing I can do about it...

Until all of that gets nullified if Cari decides to suddenly show Orion's actual mother in a later update...

Also again, having an incest mod isn't gonna magically make the Carters viable for threesomes. No mod is gonna make Dalia x Penny threesome, Nan x Penny threesome, Nan x Dalia threesome, or Nan x Dalia x Penny foursome a reality unless said modder can produce renders/animations of the same caliber as Cari and Dread (Cari's animator) and somehow manage to find a way to insert that in the game without messing the story somehow.

 

[Takkatakka]

Less incest patch talk, more release date talk!

 

[Lolicon Kami]

This certainly can be the case when it includes someone underage, a power imbalance, and/or a lack of consent. But I think you'll find a shortage of evidence supporting the harm you mention when it concerns consenting adults.

Regardless, I'd be very surprised if it ended up here given Patreon's policies and Cari's statements.

Fucking puritan. You're on a porn site, for christ's sake. What's next? You don't watch movies above PG? You don't play violent video games?

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Less incest patch talk, more release date talk!

Briefly about me:

 

[patty900]

when is cari dropping the release dates?

 

[Opa Wants]

Patience young ones Santa Cari will deliver your gifts soon.

 

[baldwin-the-bald]

Personally, I think it is more likely that he will be in a coma in the "real world" but still be active in Eternum at least for a while until he recovers and wakes up. If he is dead in the "real world" then there would eventually need to be a way to come back for him, as there is the promise of pregnancy with the girls and it would be fairly unsatisfying if he never gets to have sex with some of the girls in the real world let alone have kids with them. Also, while he and Thanatos have a lot in common they does need to be real separations from them, and Orion being alive and able to do things in both the real world and Eternum is a big one that could and should pay off. Him being able to go between them ought to be big in determining Orion's ability to win in the end, at least I think it ought to.

Havent thought about that. makes sense

 

[Jaike]

Okay, time for some game theory... so... been thinking bout Nancy's personality for a bit. I think she's really a kind mother with a demanding career and an occasional ruthless side, but an alternative reading's possible. WARNING, tho, VERY SPOILER HEAVY:
Nova's personality has a consistent macchiavellian side
The fact she threatens to torment and execute the ERE leadership, in a brutal way that'd be totally against Eternum's code of conduct, and takes the threat further than what's considered normal for roleplaying in Semper Invicta, with full psycho style sadistic details, has some pretty strong consequences for her character. Even tho that's like exaggerated actions played for laughs in a comedic relief scene, it's still shown as her behaviour, so I'm gonna go with that it's something she did in-universe... It mirrors her more low level manipulation in the real world too, like with Gertrude, first to pressure an Eternum suit outta her, then to have her inform them on that Clarence "ahegao" Ruiz at Nancy's work.

So seems like strategic manipulation is something Nancy does, and that it's part of her genuine personality. She's not only roleplaying in Semper Invicta. And she sometimes takes the ruthless realism to an extreme level. It doesn't even matter if she never intends to make good those threats to the ERE: that she uses ruthless threats of that level, and stands by them confidently, is macchiavellian. Period.

But she's genuinely a loving mother who cares deeply about family too
Now that isn't the only genuine part of her personality. Just like threats of gruesome execution as a stick and invasions in other servers are a realist part of her rule, respect for family time, and her liberality to defectors to her, represent something like constructivist core values in her version of the WRE's ideological project. Cross-server imperialism... with family leave. Tho you can read that liberality as strategic too, the carrot with the stick.

Nancy genuinely seems to value family, and seems quick to accept Orion and Annie in their family. Penny's memory scene of babysitting Orion and Dalia is pretty good evidence that she's entirely honest in her love for her family. Trying to force a purely strategic explanation for her during her financial problems in the past gives absurd nonsense. And hell, how she got to rule the WRE's evidence for this too. She even seems to see the other group members, and even some WRE subordinates, MAYBE many WRE subordinates, except Jerry, as something as a family.

That she seems very empathetic to people who threaten her for reasons she understands, she connects to, like Wyatt's mother who protects her home and is still in, supports this too. So that Nancy's totally real that nurturing family matters to her, it pretty damn probable too.

The question is how these 2 sides interact
That leaves us with 2 likely things: Nancy is sincere about nurturing her family, and finds family important in general; and she's genuinely macchiavellian too, sometimes in Eternum, sometimes with colleagues. That means there's way more evidence her nice and kind side is the primary one, and it's honestly a bit extreme to suppose she's completely calculating in her wider social life like at yoga or shit. She doesn't relentlessly pursue Orion after he rejects her either, so she doesn't see him as just a tool for her own sexual gratification.

But that her nurturing side's the dominant one, or that her manipulating side's dominant, are both possible interpretations. That her macchiavellianism goes to extremes opens the possibility she's mostly a ruthless schemer, even in her worklife and social life, who shifts to a kinder side when family's involved. We don't really know how she's normally at work, and that's another important part of her daily life. That she manipulated Gertrude pretty often isn't the most reassuring sign, but she puts up with a lot of bullshit from her too. And a lotta stuff could be reinterpreted to fit the alternative readings. Hell, you could reread that memory scene from Penny as that she was mostly strategising but suddenly fell into her nurturing side too.

There are other questions bout her personality too, like if she has 1 mostly whole personality, or a split or a compartmentalised personality. And if the macchiavellian part of her personality is sociopathic or not. And how she got there: that it was always part of her, or a result of a trauma from those past financial problems, or an influence from her work, or from somewhere else entirely, are all possibilities. Finally there's a question how aware she is of the alternative part of her personality when she's one or the other. Sure looks like she has full memory of her past behaviour tho. But these questions are speculative, and each is more speculative than the last. But how far her ruthlessness goes absolutely opens questions what's the bigger part of her.

In short I don't think the alternative reading of her personality is compelling, I think it's the less likely one. But it's getting close to a rorschach blot. And you can say that makes her even more interesting.

 

[sexypeanut]

Less incest patch talk, more release date talk!

Finally, a voice of reason!

 

[DeadpoolandWolverine]

is the new update coming out this week ?

 

[bobbo69]

is the new update coming out this week ?

Can you read? the update report was posted just a few pages back