VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[Deskitteh]

Because (and this is simply my recollection of events so someone correct me if I'm wrong) once upon a time the english publisher of HS1 (FAKKU) decided to screw over Harem Hotel's dev (Runey) by having Patreon take down his page for copyright infringement (something about Runey not having the right to use HS1 as a rendering tool for his game). Runey noted that the likely reason for this was because FAKKU was throwing a tantrum because he asked permission from Illusion (the actual devs of HS1) if he could use their game for his renders instead of asking FAKKU (who felt slighted by the move since they're the english publisher and somehow they feel that they should be the ones to be asked permission since they assumed Runey was using the english version of the game to make Harem Hotel). So Runey asked Illusion again if FAKKU's tantrums had merit, and they responded by saying that dev has the right to create game but under no circumstances are they allowed to SELL or DISTRIBUTE game to any storefront* as that would be a violation of their copyright. Runey eventually got his Patreon page back, and thus the policy of HS1/HS2 made AVNs being distributed for free (and development funded by sites such as Patreon and/or Subscribestar) instead of being sold was set. Eternum included.

Granted Illusion has been dead for a long while now, but it's likely that whoever has the rights to HS1 and HS2 also stand by their stance of having AVNs using their renders be distributed for free and not sold. Coz JP and JP usually don't deviate from policy coz traditions and shit.

*Itch.io doesn't really fall under this since games are being distributed for free there and "payment" usually comes in the form of donations to the dev rather than being a purchase of the game

What you described sounds exactly like FAKKU's reputation. If they had any common sense they'd ask for 5% on sales, enjoy the free income, and quietly repair their shady reputation.

I remember listening to people talk when they bought hentai haven. FAKKU is not liked or trusted in the public sphere.

And you know what? If the people behind FAKKU were reading this post, they likely wouldn't try to create a solution which benefits them socially and financially. They would probably try to close the legal loophole which protects harem hotel thinking that it would help them corner the market instead of permanently damaging their brand. Can you imagine how much money these developers could make on an official platform like Steam? All FAKKU and Illusion had to do is ask for a small licensing fee and let the devs do the rest. Literally free money.

I imagine pride and greed are partially to blame, but the pride comes before the fall... etc.

 

[insanity10k]

Can't wait to see Orion and Calypso again in 0.9! I'm wondering now though if Lorelei might get the H-scene instead of Calypso. I saw some people talking about how it might be Lorelei some pages ago. What do y'all think?

 

[Zegion101]

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Can't wait to see Orion and Calypso again in 0.9! I'm wondering now though if Lorelei might get the H-scene instead of Calypso. I saw some people talking about how it might be Lorelei some pages ago. What do y'all think?

Honestly don't see Lorelei getting one now. Orion is now fully devoted to his girls and storywise, even flirting with the waitress was a bad end in last update. My prediction is either we'll see a full bad end with Orion getting killed by Annares(?) if he goes for her or he'll reject her advances to score heart point and a scene with Calypso

 

[insanity10k]

Honestly don't see Lorelei getting one now. Orion is now fully devoted to his girls and storywise, even flirting with the waitress was a bad end in last update. My prediction is either we'll see a full bad end with Orion getting killed by Annares(?) if he goes for her or he'll reject her advances to score heart point and a scene with Calypso

Yeah, that's actually a good point. The first 3 updates were about building the harem, and that was finished as soon as Calypso was introduced into the story. Every update since has been about Orion developing deeper connections to his girls. The last side girl scene that wasn't Calypso was, once again, all the way the heck back in 0.3. And you also make a good point with how, even if Orion wasn't loyal to his girls, he'd have a hard time slipping a scene with Lorelei past General Arannis. I mean, think about the fact that Arannis is already extremely racist against humanity for no reason other than just because, and also the fact that even though he knew him for less than 5 minutes in 0.8, Arannis already decided that he hated Orion. Now, think about what he'd do if Orion, who is a human he hates, then tried to get with Lorelei, his own daughter. I really don't like that guy tbh. General Arannis just seems like a racist asshole to me. He's like a deadly version of Charles Miner from The Office.


Overall, you make sense, and you're probably right. That said, it's still fun to theorize! Plus, it's unlikely, but still possible that Lorelei might get a scene. I mean, really, what else could Calypso and her be talking about here?

 

[insanity10k]

Honestly don't see Lorelei getting one now. Orion is now fully devoted to his girls and storywise, even flirting with the waitress was a bad end in last update. My prediction is either we'll see a full bad end with Orion getting killed by Annares(?) if he goes for her or he'll reject her advances to score heart point and a scene with Calypso

Love those pictures by the way! Did you make them yourself or find them?

Edit: Spelling.

 

[Jaike]

Spoiler: just a few pics

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Because (and this is simply my recollection of events so someone correct me if I'm wrong) once upon a time the english publisher of HS1 (FAKKU) decided to screw over Harem Hotel's dev (Runey) by having Patreon take down his page for copyright infringement (something about Runey not having the right to use HS1 as a rendering tool for his game). Runey noted that the likely reason for this was because FAKKU was throwing a tantrum because he asked permission from Illusion (the actual devs of HS1) if he could use their game for his renders instead of asking FAKKU (who felt slighted by the move since they're the english publisher and somehow they feel that they should be the ones to be asked permission since they assumed Runey was using the english version of the game to make Harem Hotel). So Runey asked Illusion again if FAKKU's tantrums had merit, and they responded by saying that dev has the right to create game but under no circumstances are they allowed to SELL or DISTRIBUTE game to any storefront* as that would be a violation of their copyright. Runey eventually got his Patreon page back, and thus the policy of HS1/HS2 made AVNs being distributed for free (and development funded by sites such as Patreon and/or Subscribestar) instead of being sold was set. Eternum included.

Granted Illusion has been dead for a long while now, but it's likely that whoever has the rights to HS1 and HS2 also stand by their stance of having AVNs using their renders be distributed for free and not sold. Coz JP and JP usually don't deviate from policy coz traditions and shit.

*Itch.io doesn't really fall under this since games are being distributed for free there and "payment" usually comes in the form of donations to the dev rather than being a purchase of the game

This sounds roughly accurate, but I remember that Fakku's involvement started when some people contacted them about it, there was "someone" (trying to get it banned) in that discussion who was angry about Honey Select devs' "cheating" to get images faster than Daz3d devs too.

But yeah, that's the story why games like Eternum aren't sold on Steam.