Jaike

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Because (and this is simply my recollection of events so someone correct me if I'm wrong) once upon a time the english publisher of HS1 (FAKKU) decided to screw over Harem Hotel's dev (Runey) by having Patreon take down his page for copyright infringement (something about Runey not having the right to use HS1 as a rendering tool for his game). Runey noted that the likely reason for this was because FAKKU was throwing a tantrum because he asked permission from Illusion (the actual devs of HS1) if he could use their game for his renders instead of asking FAKKU (who felt slighted by the move since they're the english publisher and somehow they feel that they should be the ones to be asked permission since they assumed Runey was using the english version of the game to make Harem Hotel). So Runey asked Illusion again if FAKKU's tantrums had merit, and they responded by saying that dev has the right to create game but under no circumstances are they allowed to SELL or DISTRIBUTE game to any storefront* as that would be a violation of their copyright. Runey eventually got his Patreon page back, and thus the policy of HS1/HS2 made AVNs being distributed for free (and development funded by sites such as Patreon and/or Subscribestar) instead of being sold was set. Eternum included.

Granted Illusion has been dead for a long while now, but it's likely that whoever has the rights to HS1 and HS2 also stand by their stance of having AVNs using their renders be distributed for free and not sold. Coz JP and JP usually don't deviate from policy coz traditions and shit.

*Itch.io doesn't really fall under this since games are being distributed for free there and "payment" usually comes in the form of donations to the dev rather than being a purchase of the game
This sounds roughly accurate, but I remember that Fakku's involvement started when some people contacted them about it, there was "someone" (trying to get it banned) in that discussion who was angry about Honey Select devs' "cheating" to get images faster than Daz3d devs too.

But yeah, that's the story why games like Eternum aren't sold on Steam.
 

minibaer12

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Well, I'm playing the two extremes: the "Eunuch" path and the "Harem" path.

The "Eunuch" path is for playing the pure story. It's interesting to know what the essential quests are, but so far, the result is always the same! What both paths have in common is that Nancy mentions on the ship, in conversation with Ed and Morty, that they're a team, and later Orion on the island thinks he has to trust the girls.

Python:
if harempath:
    n "The best of teams, if you ask me..."
    show gp 12
    no "And we haven't even got the full crew on board yet."
    show gp 11
    n "Not yet! But... we will."
    n "I think once we're all together, we're going to be even more... powerful."
    show gp 12
...
else:
    n "The best of teams!"
    show gp 5
    ed "Yep, can't deny that."
...
mc "(Shit, did that come from our ship's direction?)" with dis
mct "Are they being attacked?!"
show gp 19
mc "(Fuck... I can't turn back now. I need to trust the girls and finish the mission.)" with dis
mc "(I can't let them down.)"
Note on the Annie Restaurant Event:
This event clearly shows that we've long since passed the point of no return. Cheating will be severely punished by the dev! Not only is the ...path variable set to "False," but also the harempath variable. Otherwise, if there's a dare...

Python:
a "Do you think I don't see he's cute?"
if harempath:
a "You think I don't see all the other girls eyeing him...? You think I don't notice the glances? The way they look at him?"
a "DO YOU THINK I'M AN IDIOT, EULALIE?"
show gh 126
eul "I don't!"
if harempath:
    show gh 117
    a "Here's the thing, Eulalie..."
    a "Dalia, Penny, Nancy, Luna, Nova, Alex..."
    a "I like them, Eulalie. A lot."
    show gh 118
    asc "BUT {w=0.2}{size=35}I {w=0.2}{size=45}DON'T {w=0.2}{size=55}LIKE {w=0.2}{size=70}YOU."
    a "Do you see the difference, Eulalie?"
else:
    show gh 118
    a "Do you realize how incredibly rude it is to flirt with someone when their date is right there, Eulalie?"
    show gh 126
eul "I-I do! I see it!"
show gh 118
a "If I ever catch you even LOOKING at him again... it'll be the last thing you ever do in your miserable life."
a "The. Fucking. LAST. One."
a "Am I being clear enough..."
asc "{size=67}...EULALIE?"
show gh 126
eul "Y-YES!"
eul "Crystal clear!"
eul "I'll never do it again, I swear! Not with him, and not with anyone else!"
show gh 117
a "Good."
a "Now get out of my sight."
And Nancy's warning is more than clear!

Python:
if harempath:
    n "I'm a big girl, [mc]."
    n "I can handle rejection."
    n "I can handle... pain."
    n "But you're the first love of these girls. Be kind to them."
    mc "I want..."
    n "As “unusual” as our lives are, we're all still human."
    n "If you ever hurt Nova, Annie, Luna, or Alex... I'll be seriously mad at you, young man."
    show gp 83
    n "Oh, and if you EVER hurt Penny or Dalia..."with dis12
    n "I'll straight-up murder you."
else:
    n "I'm still not sure of how you convinced me that this could work, [mc]."
    show gp 83
    n "But if my daughters stop talking to me because of you..."with dis12
    n "I'll straight-up murder you."
play sound planks
show gp 84
n "*Walking backwards* Just wanted to make that clear." with dis17
show gp 85
mc "*Chuckles* Got it."
if harempath:
    mc "I love you all, Nancy. I swear."
else:
    mc "I'll start working on it."
    mc "I love you, Nancy."
show gp 84
n "Good."
if harempath:
    n "We love you too."
else:
    n "I love you too."
n "And that's all that matters."
Note on the "Harems" path:
I was surprised to discover that both Luna and Alex only have four hearts with me, whereas the other five already have five. Hmm?

Note on Calypso:
Fact 1: Calypso doesn't appear on the first overview page, but rather among the side girls!
Fact 2: There is no calypso_points variable, only a calypso_interest variable.

For me, it will be very interesting in EP 9 to see how the two paths will differ. That Orion will emerge is certain, but how. And Lorelei will probably have different versions, depending on score and relationship to Calypso.

The update will reveal that!
 
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insanity10k

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Well, I'm playing the two extremes: the "Eunuch" path and the "Harem" path.

The "Eunuch" path is for playing the pure story. It's interesting to know what the essential quests are, but so far, the result is always the same! What both paths have in common is that Nancy mentions on the ship, in conversation with Ed and Morty, that they're a team, and later Orion on the island thinks he has to trust the girls.

Code:
if harempath:
n "The best of teams, if you ask me..."
show gp 12
no "And we haven't even got the full crew on board yet."
show gp 11
n "Not yet! But... we will."
n "I think once we're all together, we're going to be even more... powerful."
show gp 12
...
else:
n "The best of teams!"
show gp 5
ed "Yep, can't deny that."
...
mc "(Shit, did that come from our ship's direction?)" with dis
mct "Are they being attacked?!"
show gp 19
mc "(Fuck... I can't turn back now. I need to trust the girls and finish the mission.)" with dis
mc "(I can't let them down.)"
Note on the Annie Restaurant Event:
This event clearly shows that we've long since passed the point of no return. Cheating will be severely punished by the dev! Not only is the ...path variable set to "False," but also the harempath variable. Otherwise, if there's a dare...

Code:
a "Do you think I don't see he's cute?"
if harempath:
a "You think I don't see all the other girls eyeing him...? You think I don't notice the glances? The way they look at him?"
a "DO YOU THINK I'M AN IDIOT, EULALIE?"
show gh 126
eul "I don't!"
if harempath:
show gh 117
a "Here's the thing, Eulalie..."
a "Dalia, Penny, Nancy, Luna, Nova, Alex..."
a "I like them, Eulalie. A lot."
show gh 118
asc "BUT {w=0.2}{size=35}I {w=0.2}{size=45}DON'T {w=0.2}{size=55}LIKE {w=0.2}{size=70}YOU."
a "Do you see the difference, Eulalie?"
else:
show gh 118
a "Do you realize how incredibly rude it is to flirt with someone when their date is right there, Eulalie?"
show gh 126
eul "I-I do! I see it!"
show gh 118
a "If I ever catch you even LOOKING at him again... it'll be the last thing you ever do in your miserable life."
a "The. Fucking. LAST. One."
a "Am I being clear enough..."
asc "{size=67}...EULALIE?"
show gh 126
eul "Y-YES!"
eul "Crystal clear!"
eul "I'll never do it again, I swear! Not with him, and not with anyone else!"
show gh 117
a "Good."
a "Now get out of my sight."
And Nancy's warning is more than clear!

Code:
if harempath:
n "I'm a big girl, [mc]."
n "I can handle rejection."
n "I can handle... pain."
n "But you're the first love of these girls. Be kind to them."
mc "I want..."
n "As “unusual” as our lives are, we're all still human."
n "If you ever hurt Nova, Annie, Luna, or Alex... I'll be seriously mad at you, young man."
show gp 83
n "Oh, and if you EVER hurt Penny or Dalia..."with dis12
n "I'll straight-up murder you."
else:
n "I'm still not sure of how you convinced me that this could work, [mc]."
show gp 83
n "But if my daughters stop talking to me because of you..."with dis12
n "I'll straight-up murder you."
play sound planks
show gp 84
n "*Walking backwards* Just wanted to make that clear." with dis17
show gp 85
mc "*Chuckles* Got it."
if harempath:
mc "I love you all, Nancy. I swear."
else:
mc "I'll start working on it."
mc "I love you, Nancy."
show gp 84
n "Good."
if harempath:
n "We love you too."
else:
n "I love you too."
n "And that's all that matters."
Note on the "Harems" path:
I was surprised to discover that both Luna and Alex only have four hearts with me, whereas the other five already have five. Hmm?

Note on Calypso:
Fact 1: Calypso doesn't appear on the first overview page, but rather among the side girls!
Fact 2: There is no calypso_points variable, only a calypso_interest variable.

For me, it will be very interesting in EP 9 to see how the two paths will differ. That Orion will emerge is certain, but how. And Lorelei will probably have different versions, depending on score and relationship to Calypso.

The update will reveal that!
Wow! First of all, you're epic for actually looking through the code and analyzing all this! Second of all, I completely agree. That's kind of what Zegion101 and I were talking about earlier, and we came to the same agreement that you did. I think Orion is at a point now where he's staying loyal to his girls. And that's good for him! I'd hate to see him break anyone's heart. Even still, no harm in theorizing! Who knows? Elves work differently, so Calypso and Lorelei might not see it as cheating in the same way Orion would, so neither of them would have an issue with Lorelei getting a scene. It's all open for debate, as we'll really only get an answer when 0.9 comes out, y'know?
 

spiegelbild

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Fact 2: There is no calypso_points variable, only a calypso_interest variable.
This is true, they are called differently but, like all the main girls, she has an "love" mechanic and she also has a "path" variable. This is what, for me, makes her an unofficial main girl (at least, from 0.6 onwards). Maybe Cari has a special ending for her or he will include her in the harem, who knows.


if calypsopath:
mc "It wouldn't be the first time, would it...?"
show ff 0bb
ca ". . ." with dis
ca "Hmph."
show ff 0c
ca "Y-You have demonstrated yourself a capable warrior, I will admit that."
show ff 0bbb
mc "*Chuckles* (She might be an elven Princess, but in the end, she stutters like any other girl would when she's nervous.)"
show ff 0c
ca "If all proceeds according to plan, the next time we meet I shall have reclaimed my throne."
ca "Remember, do not disturb me under any circumstances."
show ff 0bbb
mc "We won't, my Princess."
mc "I wish you the utmost success."
show ff 0c
ca "Thank you, [mc]."
 

minibaer12

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This is true, they are called differently but, like all the main girls, she has an "love" mechanic and she also has a "path" variable. This is what, for me, makes her an unofficial main girl (at least, from 0.6 onwards). Maybe Cari has a special ending for her or he will include her in the harem, who knows.
This is also one of the reasons why I'm playing the "Eunuch" path.

We don't need to discuss the fact that Calypso is far too important for our MC. She's practically his only life insurance; how many times has she saved his ass!

So far, everything's been fine. The fact is, as long as the dev lets me play "all-in," I'll play "all-in" too! However, if the dev decides, for whatever reason, that an important scene (I don't mean one of a sexual nature!) requires certain requirements in Calypso's variables, or if the dev thinks that the harem path and Calypso clash, I'll change the variables accordingly.

I definitely prefer the harem path to Calypso!
 
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Jimayo

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I like the option to call yourself nobody but the initial interaction should've gone like this:

Wagner: Who the fuck are you?
MC: Me? Me I'm... I'm nobody.
Wagner: That ain't much of an answer.
MC: Trust me. It's answer enough.

For those who don't get the reference, great flick, you should watch it.

 

Finuee

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I like the option to call yourself nobody but the initial interaction should've gone like this:

Wagner: Who the fuck are you?
MC: Me? Me I'm... I'm nobody.
Wagner: That ain't much of an answer.
MC: Trust me. It's answer enough.

For those who don't get the reference, great flick, you should watch it.

I don't know, given the whole greek theme of the game, I'd think it might be more of a reference to Odyseus with Polyphemus.
 

Dylan741

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Nov 18, 2019
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Man... why are they going so slow?:confused:
It's not, but quality requires time.
Also consider that the more the story will go further, the slower it will go since the variables needed for all the girls paths will converge, thus more time to create all the variables will be necessary.:)
It's impossible to keep the same pace and speed of the updates, once we have everyone playing almost simultaneously, instead of having just one or two girls at time.
 

nathanconstantine

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Jan 24, 2025
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I like the option to call yourself nobody but the initial interaction should've gone like this:

Wagner: Who the fuck are you?
MC: Me? Me I'm... I'm nobody.
Wagner: That ain't much of an answer.
MC: Trust me. It's answer enough.

For those who don't get the reference, great flick, you should watch it.

Man i lost the save files where I set my nickname as NOBODY . So i played again and set a different one this time. but last time didn't notice the nickname is changeable at any time I want
 
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