VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[Krytax123]

Agree with this, and we already had the example with Penny/Vampires and Luna/Werewolves even if it's not a lewd scene. I find the choice useless except to add a little flavor to choose between two girls, but is that really important? iirc, Luna has a sex scene after but not Penny in this update. For me, might as well split the screen time and only do Penny/Vampires. Luna's choice shouldn't even exist since she also has screen time with her sex scene. (Well and if I'm wrong about Penny, that doesn't really change anything. Just stick with only one choice because it seems so much more practical to me)
Instead of making 200 extra renders (random number) that force you to make a choice in a harem game, you can use these renders to either add something more in the update or even release the update earlier.
All this seems more time consuming than anything else in the end.

I feel the same despite me usually prefering branching stories over harems BUT if you go the harem route already than branching in the harem is just kinda annoying.

Even less as it imo (!) kinda felt logical and even canon to follow penny, firstly is luna simply was more experienced and stronger in eternum and secondly the whole "giving penny the dance orion owed her" felt very great and fitting and like a important step in the orion/penny relationship while the Luna trip was more on the comedic site and youre not really missing out much not taking it.

 

[jvbatman]

It seems like split scene is going to win. At least the mod should let you play both.

 

[ChipLecsap]

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Hello everyone!
I hope you're all doing great!!!
Today I’ll be very brief, since I just have a quick question regarding future updates!
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Here's the thing:
How would you feel about having to choose between two girls (once the relationship with them both has been already established) for a lewd scene? The scenes would be mutually exclusive, meaning you can pick one or the other, but that choice wouldn’t affect the romantic path with the girl you didn’t choose. It would only impact this one scene (and maybe a few future dialogues), so future intimate moments with either girl would still be possible.
In short, something like the werewolves/vampires choice in 0.8, but featuring gallery lewd scenes instead. (Also, keep in mind the gallery would show both scenes unlocked after watching them in any playthrough in any case).
I could make it possible to view both scenes in a single playthrough, but this might affect the pacing, maybe making things feel a bit rushed. Of course, if you prefer that option, I’ll do my best to make things flow smoothly, no worries!
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And that's all I wanted to ask for now!
I’ll be sharing more details about development and a bit about myself (it's been a tough month, but we’re pushing through!) in the next post, which is finally going to be... YES! THE FIRST SNEAK PEEKS!
YOU BETTER STAY TUNNED! COMING UP IN JUST A FEW DAYS!
I truly appreciate all your support, both financially and with your kind words
I’m so grateful to have such an amazing community behind me
Thank you again for everything, and see you all very soon!
Love you,
Caribdis


Current vote count is 56-44 in favor of branching (and imo it's the better choice, it adds replayability and doesn't force Cari to somehow fit everything in one narrative arc).

WTF, HE purposely wants to lose the GOAT status ?

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Imo the appeal anal is the degradation aspect of it so it works best with high and mighty or masochist characters (and Dalia cause extra thicc).
Hence the goat selection: Alex, Caly, Penny and Dalia.
(But I want all of them to get one)
((And Penny blowjob or riot))

The way things have been, it would probably be the girls idea to try anal. Orion will definitely be down for it, but so far I don´t think he ever forced or pushed them into anything, even though he´s always in the mood for it. I would be happy with those four choices (to be honest, any choice would be great, I just have my preferences).
Yeah, Penny didn´t give a bj in her two scenes so far, right? She´ll definitely do it in the next one, or I´ll riot with you.

To me, anal is too demeaning towards a woman. All of the girls are precious, so I wouldn't want to see those scenes for any of them.

Fair take. But what if it was the girl who wanted it? Would it be better in your eyes?

Penny's next scene might have anal considering how wild she is, and I can't wait.

I won´t complain if it does, but I doubt it. Unless Orion teases her that Dalia took it harder than her and Penny let´s him do it just to one-up her.

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It will happen. It has to.

 

[shucia]

So by my understanding if the branching works like the werewolf scene then what people are mad about?? it doesnt affect the plot and if you want to see the other scene just save before the branching start thats all, its not like a certain popular game with multiply branches like diving down a rabbit hole. and i hate branching also and prefer a straight forward story but if branching like the werewolf/dracula scene then its not really a bother imo.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

When threesome happens while Orion was fucking Nance, Nova was acknowledging the fact she likes to 'watch' and we get glimps her with Anny, Penny and Alex. Maybe it's foreseeable threesome pairing in the future? WDYT?

You know a great idea for a scene? Orion having a threesome while Nova watches. The two ladies get the sex, Nova gets the cumshot. How´s that sound?

 

[ChipLecsap]

You know a great idea for a scene? Orion having a threesome while Nova watches. The two ladies get the sex, Nova gets the cumshot. How´s that sound?

unfair.

 

[Opa Wants]

unfair.

How about Nova/Annie, Luna watches(for instructional purposes) and gets cumshot.

 

[Radish Cruton]

So, I was thinking about this at work, because you know, when am I not thinking about Eternum, and I had a thought.

Branching would make sense under one condition - that it increased the total number of scenes per release. How, you ask.

I’m not an expert, but I believe that once you set up a certain render or animation, i.e. pose the characters, set up the lighting, etc. it’s not that hard or time consuming to re-run that render/animation with another character skin. So our two branching scenes would be the same scene... just with a different LI skin. Minimal increase to development time, but now you get to pick which of the girls you want.

 

[sexypeanut]

Yeah, Penny didn´t give a bj in her two scenes so far, right? She´ll definitely do it in the next one, or I´ll riot with you.

She did blow Orion in 0.7, but was off-screen (it happens when he eye twitches as Valentino approaches)

 

[Ozymandias037]

So, I was thinking about this at work, because you know, when am I not thinking about Eternum, and I had a thought.

Branching would make sense under one condition - that it increased the total number of scenes per release. How, you ask.

I’m not an expert, but I believe that once you set up a certain render or animation, i.e. pose the characters, set up the lighting, etc. it’s not that hard or time consuming to re-run that render/animation with another character skin. So our two branching scenes would be the same scene... just with a different LI skin. Minimal increase to development time, but now you get to pick which of the girls you want.

I disagree with this mildly when it comes to the first part -- I personally think that branching is fine if it serves the story or makes the pacing of an update better.

But I disagree pretty strongly on the second part. You may be right about the technical aspects (I don't know, I've not poked around with HS very much at all), but I hate scenes like that. It's very damaging to the characters and story to just treat them as interchangeable dolls, plus IMO it ruins any replay of the scene after the first, because I feel like the dev just didn't care at that point.

But that's just me.

 

[Filipis]

So, I was thinking about this at work, because you know, when am I not thinking about Eternum, and I had a thought.

Branching would make sense under one condition - that it increased the total number of scenes per release. How, you ask.

I’m not an expert, but I believe that once you set up a certain render or animation, i.e. pose the characters, set up the lighting, etc. it’s not that hard or time consuming to re-run that render/animation with another character skin. So our two branching scenes would be the same scene... just with a different LI skin. Minimal increase to development time, but now you get to pick which of the girls you want.

I agree that branching will be a welcome addition if the total amount of scenes increased per update, but not of it “locks” a sex scene behind save-scumming.
Eternum is a kinetic harem, there’s barely any quantitative benefit to branching content.

If this poll ends in favour of branching, then the fans over at Patreon haven’t really thought this through and just assume that they’ll get more total scenes = more total cooming opportunities… even if you’ll have to reload saves to get them.

 

[ModernDegenerate]

It is demanding and intense but if, if you like it (and not everybody does), it can be good once in a while. If the other person knows what they're doing. And you also know what you're doing. And there's enough trust. And you're careful. And have prepared for it.

Anal is also a bit trickier in Honey Select because the collider options aren't nearly as robust as they are for the vagina. I certainly haven't seen a way to avoid really bad clipping, but I also have a suspicion that Cari's animator is using software outside of HS studio neo, so they might have a way of getting around it.

 

[jvbatman]

She did blow Orion in 0.7, but was off-screen (it happens when he eye twitches as Valentino approaches)

I can't jerk it to offscreen bjs.

 

[Takkatakka]

it doesnt affect the plot

As I wrote: This is both wrong and bad at the same time.

It is wrong, because it HAS to affect the plot insofar as to Orion has to prefer one girl over another, which breaks the premise of the whole story that he not only doesn't want to choose but also that he just can't choose, because they are all equally dear to him.

Also: If it doesn't "affect the plot"...why have it in the first place? Why not have two separate scenes with each of the girls in the same update instead of artificially block one of the scenes off? He has to write and render them anyway and if they don't mean anything for the plot it doesn't make sense to do it in the first place.

(It also didn't for the Penny/Luna episode by the way. That was completely pointless as well.)

 

[shucia]

As I wrote: This is both wrong and bad at the same time.

It is wrong, because it HAS to affect the plot insofar as to Orion has to prefer one girl over another, which breaks the premise of the whole story that he not only doesn't want to choose but also that he just can't choose, because they are all equally dear to him.

Also: If it doesn't "affect the plot"...why have it in the first place? Why not have two separate scenes with each of the girls in the same update instead of artificially block one of the scenes off? He has to write and render them anyway and if they don't mean anything for the plot it doesn't make sense to do it in the first place.

(It also didn't for the Penny/Luna episode by the way. That was completely pointless as well.)

It doesnt change the course of the main plot not about the girl, its the same in FF7 Rebirth that i've been playing now regardless of who you date at the gondola based on your action it doesnt change the main course of the story, agree with having a separate scenes is better as i dont like branching but i also get it if Caribdis want to created this branching for trying to make the game not completely kinetic or whatever in his mind. its not like you have to completely replaying the game from the start just to see the scene you only have to save at the start of the branching to see both scene so i just find it ridiculous that people complaining about this while they have a game that has a real branching on their signature for example.

 

[Takkatakka]

It doesnt change the course of the main plot not about the girl, its the same in FF7 Rebirth that i've been playing now regardless of who you date at the gondola based on your action it doesnt change the main course of the story, agree with having a separate scenes is better as i dont like branching but i also get it if Caribdis want to created this branching for trying to make the game not completely kinetic or whatever in his mind. its not like you have to completely replaying the game from the start just to see the scene you only have to save at the start of the branching to see both scene so i just find it ridiculous that people complaining about this while they have a game that has a real branching on their signature for example.

It is easy: Some games are about branching and making "a" choice (or multiple) and some games aren't. Eternum very clearly is the latter, hence the harem canon run and branching would torpedo his own narrative as I pointed out above. It indeed DOES change the course of the plot...it actually changes the plot as a whole and not for the better.

 

[shucia]

It is easy: Some games are about branching and making "a" choice (or multiple) and some games aren't. Eternum very clearly is the latter, hence the harem canon run and branching would torpedo his own narrative as I pointed out above. It indeed DOES change the course of the plot...it actually changes the plot as a whole and not for the better.

To each their own then, the werewolf scene for example doesnt change the main plot imo regardless of which path you choose the outcome is still the same. we just have a different view to that.

 

[Takkatakka]

To each their own then, the werewolf scene for example doesnt change the main plot imo regardless of which path you choose the outcome is still the same. we just have a different view to that.

There is no different view. If there is a scene in which Orion has to choose one girl over the other, the story is changed irreparable. It might not be an explicit change, but it sure is an implicit one in a game that is about the MC not being able to choose.

 

[shucia]

There is no different view. If there is a scene in which Orion has to choose one girl over the other, the story is changed irreparable. It might not be an explicit change, but it sure is an implicit one in a game that is about the MC not being able to choose.

Like i said i treat the scene is the same with FF7 for example where both Aerith and Tifa are important and regardless of who you've got at the gondola date the course of the story doesnt change, Aerith still dies and the story move on chasing Sephiroth, and Eternum also the same regardless of which path you take it doesnt change the main plot. you said its change the plot but for me isnt at all and no one can change my opinion on that.period