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I don't know why I've never thought that before but yes, even before we got the implant we got a call on a pay-phone near us, telling "Lucifer, find Calipso, open the door" so we are definetely somehow related to the game closer than anybody.Been supporting Caribdis for a while now, I have never been disappointed. Development times are reasonable. Always great storytelling, girl models are amazing. Always a little humor in there (Luna's prank was the best).
I would put Eternum really high in my favourites list, close to Once in a Lifetime and Being a DIK.
I don't know about you, but I can't help thinking that the MC will be related to the creator of Eternum in some way...
Guess it is time to replay OiaL while waiting for 0.3
Was genuinely covering myself when it got to those parts, like bro it was so SCARY, the fear I felt was as much as those jump scares in FNAF or worseNew update was fucked. I was playing it at 2 am and shit myself in the first entrance in Eternum with Luna and Annie. That was scary. Not gonna spoil anything, but in the second entrance, oh BOY. The climaxes, BROOOO. The compatibility reveal, the all knowing Idriel, if you can catch what I mean, and last but not least the final scene were, pffffffffffff. I hope to get the next update ASAP, cuz this story is grabbing me like the MC grabbing his chances with Annie.
I suppose "freak out" is a bit strong of a term to describe it. What I meant was he doesn't seem to have a natural reaction in seeing people getting butchered in front of him.Orion not freaking out when shit happens is actually something I appreciate. I think that's done to death; the trope of the main character freaking out when shit goes down and all of his friends having to save his ass because he was too frightened to do anything. I mean, he still didn't do anything during this fight, but that's just because he had no experience. He was actually calmer than Alex was at first. Once he gets some in-game fighting experience, I think he'll be a badass. He's going to need to be if he wants to protect all of the girls.
I'm pretty sure Caribdis would have come clean about having to strip out anything offensive to Patreon. Changing and removing lines as it is now is less changing the core back to what it was meant to be and more changing the core just to appeal, it wouldn't fit unless there was already something there, which again, I am pretty sure Caribdis would have come out about, I mean, just mentioning there was supposed to be incest and it got struck from the plan because of Patreon isn't putting the game at risk of Patreon coming after the game, so he's in no danger just mentioning it as stuff that would have been had Patreon not been involved.It's a cest story, it's just not overt, it's pretty obvious. It's just been de-cested for Patreon. The story would only need to remove a couple of lines and change a couple more and it's one at it's core. Annie would be a cousin, and Penny and Dahlia are the sister's with Nancy being the mom. The writing in the story even implies it to me. Me, or any man I've ever met has ever had reservations about seeing, or wanting to see, a woman naked that isn't related to them.
Remove the line about MC's mom leaving, Dad divorces Nancy and moves to Europe, Dahlia an MC become twins basically, I think they are the same age, or they are just born close together, it happens.
Nothing about the way the story is written says it isn't one to me, to me the most of the writing even implies it, or I could just be a perve.And if you look really close, you can see what Nancy is searching for on the web when the MC catches her.
Either way, the story is good.
It's barely been any time since the release and I'm not sure if there is even incest to patch, both in the sense that I'm not sure any sex scene would qualify and in the sense I'm not sure if ones that could have happened yet.Incest patch...?
I could be wrong, but that looks like a shader issue, potentially in the studio program used for the graphics. Considering I believe this to be using an Illusion game's studio, I'm not surprised.Don't think I've seen it mentioned, but there is something that is a bit of a mess up?
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Seems like the shadows are coming from the leaves from the outside?
I see, so I missed that comment, thank you for the clarification.dev explicitly has said it's not a cest story, and was not written with that in mind at all
https://f95zone.to/threads/eternum-v0-2-caribdis.93340/post-6567175
If the developer himself is saying he didn't write it with the content in mind, then it just isn't there. That line isn't an implication, it is telling the player that they are as close as family without actually being family, which is entirely possible to do outside the context of censoring the incest of a game that says that. The others could easily be close friends of the family, some childhood friends in other works are said to be like siblings to the MCs of those works, but in none of those cases are they actually related and it is therefore not incest.He can say that all he wants, the writing is telling me otherwise. Lines like "they are pretty much like family, so I don't mean it like that", implying guilt from the MC for looking at them that way, there is no need for lines like that. Patreon will look at other places to boot people from their site if they want to, it's CYA to me. Believe what you want.
I just may be an anomaly, but I feel no guilt thinking a woman is attractive that isn't a member of my family, no matter her relationship to me or anyone else, beauty is beauty.
Agreed, I am all for making subtle hints to patchers if there was meant to be incest in the plan with no Patreon involvement, but incest forced in by modding alone just feels unnatural and I totally agree with the decision not to write it in if he doesn't want to include it. If patchers still want to change the game even with no provisions within the official story for the patch, so be it as long as Caribdis says it's okay, I just won't use the patch. However, I do have to disagree with any attempt to make it sound like the game was supposed to have content that even the developer is saying was never meant to be put in.How are you going to tell the developer, creator, and writer of the game that he’s wrong? The words came straight from the man himself, incest is not canon in this game. You can try to over analyze things and look for things that aren’t there, as with anything really, but at the end of the day it’s not an incest game.
You, or anyone else, are always more than welcome to mod the game yourself and alter the dialogue to fit your needs, but that was never the intent when the game was envisioned. Just because people say they see them “like family”, doesn’t always automatically mean they’re meant to be family.
I’m a big fan of that theme too, don’t get me wrong. All I’m saying is that it’s not in this one.
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I do believe this not to be a 'his game' issue and instead to be a 'this Illusion product just doesn't do good shadows' issue. I forget which one was used for this game, but if he went with Honey Select 2 or AI Shoujo, both using the same graphics so characters and other player created assets can be swapped, then I see why he is having this issue.The shadows are a complete mess in this game.
There are much worse examples in Chapter 1.
There may be an implication you are seeing, that is actually there, but that was never intended, which both the developers and I missed, which leads to a discrepancy because one side is seeing something entirely different. The way I see it, there is no implication that they actually are family, these are just people he's that close to without being related, and that's also the way Caribdis and NebulaX see it.I never said you or he was wrong, I also don't believe you or him is going to scream from the rooftops he is creating an cest game while being on Patreon, that would just not be smart at all, and would be a detriment to your proliferation.
Cest may not be cannon in the game, but it's sure written like one, with the guilt and insecurities that come with it, to me. Nancy's web search really didn't help the case either, it could just be a kink, but "MILFs" would've been a better search term to corroborate your assertion.
I'm not knocking it either way, it's a good story, I like it the way it is, or if someone mods it, fine.
Either way, I should've known better to have an opinion about something, to each their own.
"Some people can read War and Peace and come away thinking it’s a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe."
Considering some of the other games on here, I would not be surprised if that second sentence was the case under most other developers, but this is Caribdis we're talking about, he doesn't do lazy. I said it before, but another possibility is that there really is an implication of incest that was not intended by Caribdis and just so happened to slip by, which happens. Still, I do have to lean toward what you said, that there is no such implication, but other people are seeing it.Come on guys, if this were an incest game it would be one of the laziest ones ever written. Nancy is MC's mom but is having doubts about doing sexual things with him and then those doubts are just removed in the second chapter after a conversation with her creepy yoga instructor? If she was really intended to be related to MC I gotta imagine she'd put up a little bit more of a mental fight than that. I really think the incest fetishists are seeing something that isn't there, or maybe the faint echo of something that was supposed to be there at the very beginning of development but was dropped early on and the game as written no longer supports.
Anyway I just finished episode two and LOVED it. I can honestly say that I love all of the girls in this game so far but I have a particular soft spot for Nancy. I don't usually go for the MILF type characters as my favorites in games but something about her really appeals to me. I can't wait to see what happens next!
I work with Honey Select 2's studio for fun, I have seen this happen just by loading a character, especially with modded clothing, and I have seen some Honey Select 2 mod shaders do this. Not everything does it, but some modded items and shaders do. It looks to me like he is using a modded uniform meant to give the option for creating My Hero Academia characters as accurately as possible, which could have issues itself, or it could be a graphics mod, of which at least two exist that have both had their fair share of issues exactly like this. I would have to see the scenes with base lighting, no lighting except what loads in with the map, to be sure, though.Honey Select does have pretty poor lighting in general, but visible shadow mapping artifacts are the developers fault, since he is setting up all the lights and the way they cast shadows.
And this game is the worst Honey Select game I've seen so far in terms of shadows.
I have no idea what he is doing, since the shadows in Once In A Lifetime were fine.