Anjayzz

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A few weeks, IIRC, was the time she stated. Some of her lines at Warthogs suggest some experience on her part, but I'd bet (though not at very high stakes) "virgin" for Penny.

What makes me lean toward "not" for Alex is this (and a few of her following lines):
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It just suggests more experience with men generally than would otherwise be expected of her character. Conclusive? Certainly not. But IMO it leans that direction.

Their respective first penetration scenes don't move the needle one micron for me--yes, they're both wild, but so is Nova's, and we know she was a virgin beforehand.
Yes, exactly. I don’t accept the argument that they’re "not virgins" just because of how their first sex scenes look. I mean, toys exist, you know. Like you said, Nova was also wild during her first time, yet she was confirmed to be a virgin.

The same thing applies to Dalia — she was very bold too. So, for me, it’s not a solid indicator.

Personally, I’d say it’s a 55/45 for Alex (leaning slightly towards her being a virgin), and 80/20 for Penny (much more likely still a virgin).
 

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A few weeks, IIRC, was the time she stated. Some of her lines at Warthogs suggest some experience on her part, but I'd bet (though not at very high stakes) "virgin" for Penny.

What makes me lean toward "not" for Alex is this (and a few of her following lines):
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It just suggests more experience with men generally than would otherwise be expected of her character. Conclusive? Certainly not. But IMO it leans that direction.

Their respective first penetration scenes don't move the needle one micron for me--yes, they're both wild, but so is Nova's, and we know she was a virgin beforehand.
Sure, if you read that as "sexually on edge", rather than "psychologically" on edge. She plays mind games with people. She gives them a carefully constructed impression for the sake of rebelling against her asshole dad and all the expectations that go with her "position" in society because of her parents. It's the reason for the tats and striking out on her own.

I don't think it particularly matters one way or the other, but I suspect all of the LIs, other than Nancy, were written as virginal - not that they hadn't dated or experimented a little, but that they hadn't yet given up the final prize.
 

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Sure, if you read that as "sexually on edge", rather than "psychologically" on edge.
Given where her hand was at the time, and where it went immediately afterward, I think that's a reasonable reading. Perhaps not the only reasonable reading, but certainly a reasonable reading.
I suspect all of the LIs, other than Nancy, were written as virginal
Nancy obviously isn't; Annie, Nova, and Dalia are explicitly stated to be. Luna isn't stated one way or the other, but I haven't seen anyone suggest she isn't a virgin. And while I'm not confident of this with Dalia, I'd strongly suspect that neither Annie, Nova, nor Luna had "dated or experimented a little." Annie's too into MC, Luna's a social outcast, and so is Nova (though in a different way). I don't really think Dalia has either, but I don't have specific reasons I can point to.

Alex and Penny are unknowns, not specifically stated, and I doubt it ever will be--the player can reach whatever conclusion he likes. It's kind of interesting to see what data points people will pull out to support their beliefs, though.
 

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Hah, how do you know? Based on the hints given, I think Penny and Alex are still virgins.
For Penny, one of the clues is when she says she’s never had a nude photo taken before because she never had someone she felt comfortable with ( bruv she is naughty type how come if someone/her bf fuck her and she doesnt even gave him a nude photo???) She also mentioned she had dated someone before, but the relationship didn’t last long.

As for Alex, honestly I’m a bit unsure, but I believe she’s still a virgin too. She seems like someone who’s really hard to approach. When her father called her a whore, she immediately denied it, saying she was just working as a waitress or something like that.
And yeah, lastly — it was Caribdis who said that Nancy is the only virgin, but I think it might actually be the other way around.

(I actually don't want to argue about this because it doesn't seem important, but it is quite disturbing when people say things like that without any evidence. Or maybe I just missed the clue?)
With the exception of the characters who clearly state if they are virgins or not, I think Cari gives room for us players to make our assumptions about the characters who say nothing.
 

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promiscuous highschool/college girls/women looking like supermodels, that know how they want to fuck and be treated in said fuck ... are virgins.


yeah okay what in the fuck?
have you... met girls/women at all, ever? :WaitWhat:
This is <AVN>, what does that mean? Avn's don't need logic or sense, so nothing is impossible and they are virgins! Conversation over.

:coffee: :HideThePain:
 

Leinad_Sevla

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If Nova was (and she was), why not them?
Nova is the nerdy, awkward type whereas Penny is the hot, popular and outgoing type. It´s not that crazy to assume that Nova would be the virgin and Penny isn´t. I think this is the reasoning that person is making.
I still agree with you, though. Just because Penny looks like she might not be a virgin, doesn´t mean she isn´t.
 

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Nova is the nerdy, awkward type whereas Penny is the hot, popular and outgoing type. It´s not that crazy to assume that Nova would be the virgin and Penny isn´t. I think this is the reasoning that person is making.
I still agree with you, though. Just because Penny looks like she might not be a virgin, doesn´t mean she isn´t.
I think the point being is that Nova is supposed to be a virgin and yet she took Orion's salami like a damn pro. Ergo, Penny and Alex's sexual performance is not a good gauge in determining that they are non-virgins if a virgin can match them just as well.
 

danb35

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It´s not that crazy to assume that Nova would be the virgin and Penny isn´t.
We don't have to assume Nova is a virgin; she says so, clearly, on more than one occasion. Yes, Penny's beautiful and popular, and also nice and therefore relatively approachable--she's presumably had opportunities that Nova hasn't. She hasn't had much in the way of relationships--one boyfriend for a few weeks--but that doesn't rule out a hookup.

But the argument I'm seeing from Dingolingo (to the extent there's any argument at all) is "look at their scenes; of course they aren't virgins." And Nova's scene completely repudiates that argument. There are other reasonable bases for believing them to not be virgins, but not that one.
Ergo, Penny and Alex's sexual performance is not a good gauge in determining that they are non-virgins if a virgin can match them just as well.
Or that, stated more succinctly than I did.
 
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Cari honestly just matched their personality rather than thinking about their previous experiences. The shy ones and ones with self esteem issues (like Nova, Annie, Dalia) got more lines to make them cross the line while the confident ones like Alex and Penny don't need them and went straight to it. It's AVN, they're all super horny and perverts and can have sex like pro pornstars
 

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promiscuous highschool/college girls/women looking like supermodels, that know how they want to fuck and be treated in said fuck ... are virgins.


yeah okay what in the fuck?
have you... met girls/women at all, ever? :WaitWhat:
promiscuous?? Damn straight up saying those 2 are whores despite they get pissed whenever anybody alludes to them as such.

Nova and dalia also knew how to fuck so they are non virgins too? Like a virgin would never able to ride that dildo like a pro. Pretty sure the sex scenes are based on the girl's personality like nova maintains her hyper active personality, annie with her shy personality and alex with her confident personality.
Caribds said 1 time that nancy is the only virgin but we we know she is not. Makes sense that he said the opposite. That nancy is the onli li who is a non virgin and rest of them are virgins.
 

danb35

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That nancy is the onli li who is a non virgin and rest of them are virgins.
I understand he's elsewhere said that nothing except dialogue in the game is canon on this question, so I wouldn't take that as a hard "everyone else is a virgin." We know (assuming they aren't lying, which I think is a safe assumption) Annie, Nova, and Dalia are, and we universally (I think) assume Luna is. We know Nancy isn't. I think Alex and Penny are left deliberately vague--there are things about each that point in both directions, and it's up to the player how he chooses to interpret them.

I don't have particularly strong feelings on the question for either of them, but I'm going to push back against someone who states a dogmatic position either way.
 
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