VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.9.4] [Caribdis]

[falsapersona]

Caribds said 1 time that nancy is the only virgin but we we know she is not. Makes sense that he said the opposite. That nancy is the onli li who is a non virgin and rest of them are virgins.

Nancy is the one character that we for sure know is not a virgin at the beginning of the game, being a mother and all that. And without confirmation, I would argue that Alex and Penelope may have had some previous experience (I mean, they both can take some hard pounding on their respective lewd scene with MC), but there is no need to call them promiscuous because of that, even tho they are a horny pair. The rest have some line of dialogue that confirms it or it is heavily suggested

 

[wiseold6996]

Nancy is the one character that we for sure know is not a virgin at the beginning of the game, being a mother and all that. And without confirmation, I would argue that Alex and Penelope may have had some previous experience (I mean, they both can take some hard pounding on their respective lewd scene with MC), but there is no need to call them promiscuous because of that, even tho they are a horny pair. The rest have some line of dialogue that confirms it or it is heavily suggested

Again as said previously Penny and Alex's sexual performance is not a good gauge in determining that they are non-virgins if a virgin can match them just as well.

 

[ShiNobiZZ]

YOU GUYS KEEP DEBATING AND STUFF..... IT'S BEEN 8 MONTHS DAMN IT!!!! WHEN is the NEXT Update coming out!??

 

[KharonX]

YOU GUYS KEEP DEBATING AND STUFF..... IT'S BEEN 8 MONTHS DAMN IT!!!! WHEN is the NEXT Update coming out!??

around november I think

 

[falsapersona]

Again as said previously, Penny and Alex's sexual performance is not a good gauge in determining that they are non-virgins if a virgin can match them just as well.

That's true, and it can be argued that a virgin can develop a potent sexual drive from masturbation, using toys, etc. But also, it is quite unlikely that out of 6 girls in their teenage years a 100% of them are virgins (also, why is that important?)

But by playing the numbers game, we get confirmation from three characters for three different reasons (a romantic crush, social awkwardness, and a personal decision), the rest is left ambiguous on purpose, but it would be extremely odd if that is the case considering that nowadays your average teenager experiences their first sexual encounter around 16yo. Penelope and Nova are our college-age representatives, one of whom we know didn't have sex before the start of the game, so it is at least worth considering that the other has some experience, maybe with a boyfriend, or a hookup, or whatever. The rest are high schoolers, and out of those four, two confirm in dialogue that they never had a sexual encounter, so I am inclined to believe that at least one of those two had sex before. Otherwise, I may have to start to think that Caribdis may have some Defloration fetish bc statistically speaking wouldn't make much sense

 

[Igetby]

Hes updates are worth the wait though. Lot of content and a proven track record on delivering good and consistent content.

 

[dante4ever]

YOU GUYS KEEP DEBATING AND STUFF..... IT'S BEEN 8 MONTHS DAMN IT!!!! WHEN is the NEXT Update coming out!??

the chapter 0.9 will be very big and meanwhile the developer has got many issues with copyright songs

 

[Punto]

Wait for the update ver. 0.9

 

[Radical_Dreamer]

These debates are wild lol.

It makes me wonder if the people debating even read the dialogue in the game. You can pretty much tell who is a virgin and who isn't based on the dialogue and their personality. Hell, in most cases that I recall, the actual virgin LIs admit that they're virgins in the game.

One of the best and amazing things about this game is the amazing storytelling and dialogue that Cari and team put into this game. If you skip through it for a fap, you are robbing yourself of an amazing story, and you're going to confuse yourselves on the LIs.

At the end of the day, debating who is a virgin and who isn't in the game is kinda silly to me - Again, if you actually pay attention to the dialogue and the story in the game, boom, you'll have your answers.

And yes, a virgin is just as capable of taking the D deep off rip as someone experienced. Believe it or not, each woman's body is different from the other in the real world; not all are made equal. Imagine that, right? Some women have a higher pain tolerance than others and can rock the horizontal tango just fine even after losing their virginity. So assuming an LI isn't a virgin based off of the fact that they could do the bedroom waltz just fine after swiping their V-card right is just dumb.

And Caribdis ... You are cruel, sir. Cruel. I came to this page and saw an UPDATE to 8.6.... AND IT WAS JUST SOUND! SOUND I TELL YOU!

My soul was aghast in pain and agony at the excitement I felt, until I read the changelog and had it dashed away like a harsh, cold wind in the icy month of December.

YOU FIEND!!!

... Anyways, drama aside, can't wait until the update comes out! I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS ONE!

EDIT: Also, I am kinda not surprised they had to change some of their songs lol. Funny as a lot of their uses were, I can imagine some heat was taken. I posted a while back that there was a specific scene where Cari used a clip from World of Warcraft's end scene when you kill the Lich King at the end of that expansion. Great song, and I love how Cari used it, but I can imagine Blizzard probably wasn't thrilled (though I can't confirm if that was one of the songs changed; haven't played through 8.6 to check).

 

[danb35]

Caribdis may have some Defloration fetish

That wouldn't be that unusual in porn, I don't think--or even if he doesn't himself, you can see that there's a lot of interest in the question, and I think more viewers/players (among those who have a preference) would prefer "virgin" to "non-virgin"--though that's just a guess on my part.

statistically speaking wouldn't make much sense

Statistics don't do very well predicting small populations, and we're only dealing with seven people here--and really, only with two. And the probability of Alex's or Penny's virginity is independent of whether anyone else is a virgin. If you flip a coin 20x, and the first 19 are heads, the probability that the 20th will be heads is still 50%. Similarly, according to ChatGPT (which is never wrong, of course), 65-70% of unmarried American 18-year-old women are virgins. And we know that Annie, Dalia, and Luna are, so what's the probability that Alex also is? It's also 65-70%.

in most cases that I recall, the actual virgin LIs admit that they're virgins in the game.

For one who's going on about reading, it doesn't seem you're reading too closely--we aren't talking about the people who have said they're virgins (Annie, Dalia, and Nova), nor about the one (Luna) everyone assumes is. The discussion is about Penny and Alex.

Again, if you actually pay attention to the dialogue and the story in the game, boom, you'll have your answers.

I'd love to see the dialogue that conclusively shows whether Alex or Penny are virgins.

 

[Radical_Dreamer]

I'd love to see the dialogue that conclusively shows whether Alex or Penny are virgins.

Ah, my point exactly! I never said they were. The point I was trying to make is to pay attention to the dialogue, which gives you enough context to determine whether or not they are.

In both Penny and Alex's cases, I do not believe either are virgins. Penny knows way too much about her sexual preferences to be a virgin (i.e. she makes it VERY clear throughout the game she is into rough sex), and Alex oozes sexual confidence throughout her storyline (the handjob at the party out in the open, her stamina in her first sex scene with the MC, etc.).

That is why it is so important to read and pay attention to the dialogue! The clues are there. I never said it was spelled out for you, but it becomes pretty obvious (to me at least) that neither of those two are virgins.

For one who's going on about reading, it doesn't seem you're reading too closely--we aren't talking about the people who have said they're virgins (Annie, Dalia, and Nova), nor about the one (Luna) everyone assumes is. The discussion is about Penny and Alex.

SECOND EDIT: I am perfectly aware of what the topic is and added what I said for context. So need to get bent out of shape over it lol.

 

[danb35]

she makes it VERY clear throughout the game she is into rough sex

I don't know about "throughout the game," but she certainly says as much at Hogwarts (excuse me, Warthogs). Does she know this from experience? Or is this perhaps something she likes the idea of but hasn't experienced?

Alex oozes sexual confidence

Alex also projects a "tough girl" image, but she's a romantic at heart, even if she may not realize it herself. This could be another false front she puts on.

her stamina in her first sex scene with the MC

Nova's scene proves this meaningless as an indicator.

And for both of them, there's a question of "with whom?" Penny's only had one boyfriend, only for a few weeks, not very serious. They could have had sex, but not enough to explain her "know[ing] way too much about her sexual preferences." That could have come from a series of hookups, but she takes umbrage at the suggestion that she's promiscuous.

Alex? She's a loner by choice, almost no friends, can't really imagine her having a boyfriend. Hookups have the same problem as with Penny.

it becomes pretty obvious (to me at least) that neither of those two are virgins.

So you're drawing inferences from clues, like the rest of us. But some of us are giving greater weight to other clues that point in the other direction--because those are there too, and if you've been following the discussion, you've seen reference to some of them. This isn't a matter of people just not reading the dialogue; it's a matter of people interpreting and weighing the dialogue differently than you do.

I'm not a hardliner either way, but I don't think it's nearly as obvious as you seem to think it is.

 

[Dorfnutter]

And Caribdis ... You are cruel, sir. Cruel. I came to this page and saw an UPDATE to 8.6.... AND IT WAS JUST SOUND! SOUND I TELL YOU!

My soul was aghast in pain and agony at the excitement I felt, until I read the changelog and had it dashed away like a harsh, cold wind in the icy month of December.

YOU FIEND!!!

... Anyways, drama aside, can't wait until the update comes out! I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS ONE!

EDIT: Also, I am kinda not surprised they had to change some of their songs lol. Funny as a lot of their uses were, I can imagine some heat was taken. I posted a while back that there was a specific scene where Cari used a clip from World of Warcraft's end scene when you kill the Lich King at the end of that expansion. Great song, and I love how Cari used it, but I can imagine Blizzard probably wasn't thrilled (though I can't confirm if that was one of the songs changed; haven't played through 8.6 to check).

The songs weren't changed due to copyright infringement. The songs were changed because a certain royalty free site didn't want to associate their music to adult stuff anymore, so they decided to change their ToS and sent C&Ds to AVN devs using their music (despite said AVN devs having purchased the licenses for their music fair and square), one of which happened to be Cari.

Edit: He talked about it at some length in a post

You must be registered to see the links

.

 

[TheOriginalSchizo]

wait what is 8.6 supposed to be? bug fixes?

 

[FRVN]

wait what is 8.6 supposed to be? bug fixes?

From the OP:

v0.8.6 Public

• Necessary changes to sound were made

It was to remove songs that Cari is no longer allowed to use.

 

[MagicMan753]

I see we are back on the cringe who is and isn't a virgin debate. This will probably go on between every chapter at this rate.

I personally believe both Alex and Penny are both virgins, based on what I seen and read in game.

If you think otherwise cool, I am not going to debate you, I am not going to argue you, I have what I think and my headcanon and you have yours. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter, whether they are or aren't, so go with whatever you think best, cause its clear no one can agree, and people try to say they are right 100%, when they themselves don't know either and trying to push their own canon onto others without explicit knowledge. Just believe what you want cause it does not matter.

Can't wait to rehash this while discussion on this topic in a few months time.

 

[Radical_Dreamer]

I don't know about "throughout the game," but she certainly says as much at Hogwarts (excuse me, Warthogs). Does she know this from experience? Or is this perhaps something she likes the idea of but hasn't experienced?

Alex also projects a "tough girl" image, but she's a romantic at heart, even if she may not realize it herself. This could be another false front she puts on.

Nova's scene proves this meaningless as an indicator.

And for both of them, there's a question of "with whom?" Penny's only had one boyfriend, only for a few weeks, not very serious. They could have had sex, but not enough to explain her "know[ing] way too much about her sexual preferences." That could have come from a series of hookups, but she takes umbrage at the suggestion that she's promiscuous.

Alex? She's a loner by choice, almost no friends, can't really imagine her having a boyfriend. Hookups have the same problem as with Penny.

So you're drawing inferences from clues, like the rest of us. But some of us are giving greater weight to other clues that point in the other direction--because those are there too, and if you've been following the discussion, you've seen reference to some of them. This isn't a matter of people just not reading the dialogue; it's a matter of people interpreting and weighing the dialogue differently than you do.

I'm not a hardliner either way, but I don't think it's nearly as obvious as you seem to think it is.

My ego wants me to keep responding to this, but I made it clear (if you read my earlier dialogue ) that this topic is not worth that kind of time.

I just want to be clear that I literally only used instances that just came to my mind (it's been a bit since I've played), but there are many more references to them not being virgins. Hell, I only mentioned ones made by the actual LIs, and not the ones from other characters. But I am not going to go into it or I won't stop. xD

Toodles.

 

[iIIusory]

>threesomes

a penny/luna scene would make this game the greatest avn ever

 

[ADAS20]

Why does the MC warp directly into Eternum if there's a very real risk of death?

It's been a while since I last played (I'm replaying rn) but isn't it because it prevents him from getting tracked down by Ulysses and possibly Thanatos since he doesn't have an attached ID?

 

[VaderExMachina]

a penny/luna scene WILL make this game the greatest avn ever

ftfy