complaining about patreon on a pirate website is just peak privilege
Unreal Engine Fallen Doll: Operation Lovecraft [v0.4.9 Cracked] [Project Helius]
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- Nov 13, 2021
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Well there’s three of them bitching that no one has a right to complain if they don’t pay. Which is bullshit to begin with, but also completely pointless since the works are released for free officially soon after.
IMO it doesn't matter if you put money into supporting a project or not. commenting on delays and long development cycles are healthy too. but then attacking people for supporting a 'failed' project just because you're salty is pretty sad
- Nov 13, 2021
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In this instance people are complaining about the video being released unfinished intentionally, for time according to the dev despite being delayed previously so and with said dev saying it would have been only another 4 days to finish it with voicework already finished.
The other side is spitting venom about how those who do not pay have no right to complain about the unfinished state, and that the dev has no obligation to adhere to the details of the work commissioned of them. They have directly compared us to fat basement dwelling loser, though most of the most foul comments have been reported and removed.
Huh that sucks. Kinda reminds me of NTR man, he posts all the time on his patreon about how ppl are shitting on his work and his mental state. But then on Patreon, the comments are nothing but support for him as far as i see. Its weird. I know people usually end up focusing on the negative stuff and overlook positive feedback/support. It sucks.
- Oct 15, 2021
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You keep saying it is normal for an alpha game but you are missing the point why this game is getting so much hate.
The point is:
Who said developer should get extremely greedy to the point of abandoning previous game(og fallendoll had some gameplay mechanics at the very least) and constantly lie, only to turn previous game into this terrible online "game".
There aren't even any gameplay mechanics in this "game".
You can't defend this by saying "well AAA games are buggy so its normal", no, it is not normal and this game isn't AAA game.
Games are supposed to be buggy in alpha phase yes, but there isn't a single reason for this game to be STILL in alpha phase other than developer's greed and easy to exploit whales supporting them on patreon.
6 years is more than enough time even for a SINGLE/SOLO developer to complete a game.
So here's YOUR constructive feedback: Go fund/support another game if you value your intelligence.
But if you don't want to, that's okay. The fact is, dev is playing all of you so good, it is actually fun to watch.
So, I'll continue watching this thread in the vr mode of koikatsu(or whatever game illusion releases next) while you guys get the free mobile online coop gacha porn game you deserve/desire/defend.
And lastly, your comparison of this game to illusion games was so funny it made me smile, you should consider atleast playing the games before comparing them to eachother.
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gpu utilization is 100% just by being at the menu
wth?
also, why no controller support?
wth?
also, why no controller support?
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MAAAAA!! THE HELIUS SIMPS ARE POSTING DUMB SHIT AGAIN
@ Hate.
Hate will always propagate here like fire in Australian forest. It is simple - people want to feel good about themselves and in your average Joe The Pirate mind pirating game from a greedy/corrupt devs is a good deed.
I don't think anyone here was impacted by what Helius was doing 8 years ago on some Chinese sites. Nor it really matters for the current project what plans he had back then. But it doesn't stop people from claiming game has been 8 years in development. Falled Doll being abandoned wasn't really making anyone upset when it happened.
Yes there are plenty of good reasons to complain about the dev/game but you know what?
It doesn't matter. Look, we are aware of the games "new" direction for a year now ? Compared to a year ago he only lost 15% supporters. Such drop is to be expected due to lack of updates. So clearly supporters aren't bothered by what he is doing or what is good outweigh the bad. He will release a version with new girl, most animations just copy pasted with just few new and he will get +20%. Also i wouldn't be surprised if during the beta spike from one time donations he would make a year worth of regular patreon income.
Hate will always propagate here like fire in Australian forest. It is simple - people want to feel good about themselves and in your average Joe The Pirate mind pirating game from a greedy/corrupt devs is a good deed.
I don't think anyone here was impacted by what Helius was doing 8 years ago on some Chinese sites. Nor it really matters for the current project what plans he had back then. But it doesn't stop people from claiming game has been 8 years in development. Falled Doll being abandoned wasn't really making anyone upset when it happened.
Yes there are plenty of good reasons to complain about the dev/game but you know what?
It doesn't matter. Look, we are aware of the games "new" direction for a year now ? Compared to a year ago he only lost 15% supporters. Such drop is to be expected due to lack of updates. So clearly supporters aren't bothered by what he is doing or what is good outweigh the bad. He will release a version with new girl, most animations just copy pasted with just few new and he will get +20%. Also i wouldn't be surprised if during the beta spike from one time donations he would make a year worth of regular patreon income.
That is the beta spike - December is the highest peek but look at minimum - the minimum is same as it was before beta.
Those are not patrons but people just getting the beta access and gtfo'ing.
Sure it is dropping but that is 9 months without patch now.
- Oct 15, 2021
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@ hate haters
It is simple - people want to feel good about their spendings and in your average consumer mind trying to justify a game they've paid for is a good deed.
But don't worry, that drop will matter sooner or later:
When even the whales start to realize dev haven't kept his promises and constantly changed his goals and even abandoned his previous actual game in favor of this "game". It's going to be like no man's sky but without the comeback part. Or more recently, babylon's fall.
But who am I to judge, maybe this "game" could actually become a game. Actually, nevermind, scam citizen being completed someday has higher chances of happening than this "game" becoming an actual game.
It is simple - people want to feel good about their spendings and in your average consumer mind trying to justify a game they've paid for is a good deed.
But don't worry, that drop will matter sooner or later:
When even the whales start to realize dev haven't kept his promises and constantly changed his goals and even abandoned his previous actual game in favor of this "game". It's going to be like no man's sky but without the comeback part. Or more recently, babylon's fall.
But who am I to judge, maybe this "game" could actually become a game. Actually, nevermind, scam citizen being completed someday has higher chances of happening than this "game" becoming an actual game.
I don't know about others but I was born in the 90s where gaming was simple. You pay a 1 time fee you get the complete game end of story. Want final fantasy 7? buy it play it love it job done. Want ff7 remake? we gonna split it into 3 parts which will actually be at least 7 parts once we count 20 dollar dlc per parts released totalling about 300 dollars for 1 game good deal right guys. 90s and 2000s also had a wonderful thing called demos where you could play a portion of the game to get a feel of it. I use pirating as a morale compass really. I'm not really struggling for money using a 2k pc and then being unable to buy some shitty 30 dollar season pass porn game I will pirate it see if it's good and if it turns out to be good and worth the money I will buy it so the devs have money to continue the game or make their next game. If it's a total piece of shit filled with microtransactions then I can throw the game away and be happy that I didn't pay for it first before being able to try so I lost nothing. People won't use demos anymore because they know their product is shit and it will only expose them self and earn way less sales. That and the fact you can barely even buy a complete game anymore because it's going to have day 1 dlc and microtransactions out the gate to unlock parts of the game despite the fact you literally just paid full price for the fucking game lol.
It's also hilarious people try to have a morale high ground on pirating when you have the biggest gaming platform in the world, steam has a feature that literally lets you play a game for up to 2 hours and refund it full price no questions asked. If you were extremely sweaty you could have 10 steam accounts using refund abuse and migrating your save files you complete full triple A games without ever paying for it. It's effectively the exact same as piracy but these underhanded tactics only came about before devs them self decided to be scumbags who want to use the "pay first ask questions later" reply. Oh don't like the game too bad our money now
It's not even about saving money in this games case either it's literally saving you wasting your life. It's a sex game just give the animations and fuck off if there is no real game like a xcom game behind unlocking it. Watching other old men jacking off in a spaceship with different animations to unlock them for hundreds of hours while paying 100+ dollars per year to unlock 2 new characters and a few new animations how they think this is ever going to have any amount of success is so funny. Like it was so simple just make a porn xcom where you unlock adult content through playing the game that was perfect you already had everything perfect but why do that surely a gacha microtransaction battlepass with zero gameplay path was much better. It's so cringe idiots still defend this shit knowing how much potential it had at the start lol. Am I the only one around here who wants a normal type of game where you unlock the porn through playing it without some retarded microtransaction or other monetisation bullshit going on?
I'm just gonna laugh it out. I remember times when i was upset about games being dumbed down for the sake of consoles. These days I'm happy games are still made for consoles and PC that are just one time purchase without mobile practices - mtx, boosters, season pass , gacha you name it.I don't know about others but I was born in the 90s where gaming was simple. You pay a 1 time fee you get the complete game end of story. Want final fantasy 7? buy it play it love it job done. Want ff7 remake? we gonna split it into 3 parts which will actually be at least 7 parts once we count 20 dollar dlc per parts released totalling about 300 dollars for 1 game good deal right guys. 90s and 2000s also had a wonderful thing called demos where you could play a portion of the game to get a feel of it. I use pirating as a morale compass really. I'm not really struggling for money using a 2k pc and then being unable to buy some shitty 30 dollar season pass porn game I will pirate it see if it's good and if it turns out to be good and worth the money I will buy it so the devs have money to continue the game or make their next game. If it's a total piece of shit filled with microtransactions then I can throw the game away and be happy that I didn't pay for it first before being able to try so I lost nothing. People won't use demos anymore because they know their product is shit and it will only expose them self and earn way less sales. That and the fact you can barely even buy a complete game anymore because it's going to have day 1 dlc and microtransactions out the gate to unlock parts of the game despite the fact you literally just paid full price for the fucking game lol.
It's also hilarious people try to have a morale high ground on pirating when you have the biggest gaming platform in the world, steam has a feature that literally lets you play a game for up to 2 hours and refund it full price no questions asked. If you were extremely sweaty you could have 10 steam accounts using refund abuse and migrating your save files you complete full triple A games without ever paying for it. It's effectively the exact same as piracy but these underhanded tactics only came about before devs them self decided to be scumbags who want to use the "pay first ask questions later" reply. Oh don't like the game too bad our money now
It's not even about saving money in this games case either it's literally saving you wasting your life. It's a sex game just give the animations and fuck off if there is no real game like a xcom game behind unlocking it. Watching other old men jacking off in a spaceship with different animations to unlock them for hundreds of hours while paying 100+ dollars per year to unlock 2 new characters and a few new animations how they think this is ever going to have any amount of success is so funny. Like it was so simple just make a porn xcom where you unlock adult content through playing the game that was perfect you already had everything perfect but why do that surely a gacha microtransaction battlepass with zero gameplay path was much better. It's so cringe idiots still defend this shit knowing how much potential it had at the start lol. Am I the only one around here who wants a normal type of game where you unlock the porn through playing it without some retarded microtransaction or other monetisation bullshit going on?
But what i want and what is the reality are two different things. Mobile practices bring in the most money, people are slowly but surely getting used to p2w,pay to not grind, lootboxes .
Waifu collector gacha is super profitable and it costs the least to upkeep. Why it wouldn't work for porn game?
It only matters if there are alternatives. As long as the game has something that can't be found in other games that people want it will see success no matter the shitty practices they put in it.
- Aug 4, 2020
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noooooo you interrupted their cute little circle-jerking session, I wanted to see what more dumb shit they could say :-( I even got my snacks, man...
if this were reddit and I'd have a gold, you'd have it right now lmao
For why there is so much hate on Helius, don't think of it as he's seen as some evil mustachio twirling villain, more so just a callous asshole using other peoples money in a way he definitely wouldn't if it was his own on the line. If he had his own, fixed pool of money he was investing you can bet he'd focus down and finish a project to raise more for the next. With his patreon he's just treating it as his own personal project fund whatever he see's fit, no thought to the project he was advertising at the time or choice given to the supporter as to what happens or if they get refunded/compensated in some other way. Some of his supporters are clearly fine with that, but you can't be surprised there's a lot of people who supported one of his projects and are pissed to see it abandoned with nothing in return for them. The difference in his attitude here is that if he had actual, proper venture capital being invested what he's doing would be considered embezzlement. You wouldn't be able to just raise funds for one project, abandon that with no consequences and put that money towards some other personal interest of yours. But Patreon has no quality control, so here we are.
As for why his entire past keeps getting brought up, it's just a good way to see how he'll behave in the future. If he has for the better part of a decade rug pulled his supporters, chances are he's not going to feel guilty rug pulling them once more. No one is saying that these events in the past are still ripping off each new patron, obviously origins being cancelled years ago doesn't impact patrons from this month. People bring it up as a "Hey, be careful. Just because he says this is what you're supporting now doesn't mean it's what he's going to put your money towards." This most recent campaign controversy is a good example. I'm sure most supporters don't really care or are happy to see resources not being wasted on a SFW campaign. But the few who may have been excited get nothing for that, and will be warned/banned for mentioning it's canceled in the discord server. Given this has happened with past elements of Helius's games like gallery mode or even any offline mode, and entire games, of course there wll be enough people burned to bring it up fairly often. When you consider a site like f95 sends traffic to games like this, it's even more likely other people who came from here and got burned are going to speak up and say "Hey, maybe don't support him, he's a dick."
As for why his entire past keeps getting brought up, it's just a good way to see how he'll behave in the future. If he has for the better part of a decade rug pulled his supporters, chances are he's not going to feel guilty rug pulling them once more. No one is saying that these events in the past are still ripping off each new patron, obviously origins being cancelled years ago doesn't impact patrons from this month. People bring it up as a "Hey, be careful. Just because he says this is what you're supporting now doesn't mean it's what he's going to put your money towards." This most recent campaign controversy is a good example. I'm sure most supporters don't really care or are happy to see resources not being wasted on a SFW campaign. But the few who may have been excited get nothing for that, and will be warned/banned for mentioning it's canceled in the discord server. Given this has happened with past elements of Helius's games like gallery mode or even any offline mode, and entire games, of course there wll be enough people burned to bring it up fairly often. When you consider a site like f95 sends traffic to games like this, it's even more likely other people who came from here and got burned are going to speak up and say "Hey, maybe don't support him, he's a dick."
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Retards do be retards, now you know what its like to be the majority of earths population, stupid people sharing and breathing the same air as us
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I gotta frame this, this is gold
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Because Discord servers are, by nature, echo chambers.