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I hope at least the relese the pre alpa this years.....Progress report
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worst part is that they're making fat stacks like this while I'm working an entry job and could barely feed myself with it if not for my dadImagine monetizing what is essentially a tech demo and trying to force it into your "game as a service" bullshit before it's even in a workable state. Devs are skipping the entire development pipeline and shooting for the money at the end.
don't know why peoplee are facepalming you, this is reasonable. It just MAY happen that this project gets purchased by some japanese porn company and we may actually get a decent game from that.I praised this game, still do. There is hope still for something grandious, something trully great, yet no progress by helios has been witnessed for past 2 years, all the same bullcrap they've been feeding us. Nothing will change I know. But there's hope, never underestimate that.
If they do, it's going to be even worse quality than haremI hope at least the relese the pre alpa this years.....
oh great, here we go again with the "oh my gawd we were barely able to get this team member" maybe because you're a shite team with no morals?Progress report
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We can try like i said I'm open for dialogue, i do want to mention that even tho I'm part of the project and help helius's in realizing his project while helping out in staying in contact with the community i have by no means any direct influence in any decision made by helius himself, the only thing i can offer is some direct clarification on some of the things said and the general situation. I'm also not here to provoke anyone on these forums if this however doesn't work out on the forum itself you can always directly contact me on discord.Colress, keep this attitude open. Be the mod to make a dev account here and talk to people. Most either don't know who you are or are more or less fine with you, the best Helius' team can hope for honestly. If you engage people on a forum where your colleagues can't just delete what they don't like you can help shake the rep of a team who censors everything.
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Really?Imagine monetizing what is essentially a tech demo and trying to force it into your "game as a service" bullshit before it's even in a workable state. Devs are skipping the entire development pipeline and shooting for the money at the end.
Don't quote me but I think the goal isn't to hide it behind a paywall but to give you an excuse to play regularly and focus on characters you like. As they release more content your goal is to mainly unlock poses and content for characters you care about most first and foremost. Those characters are likely not going to have much in the way of content issues but if there was someone like say, Anya, whom you don't care for they're likely to lag behind significantly as you don't put much stuff into them compared to Alet who you dump all your currency into or the next new character, and so forth. This is mainly only an issue for completionist or the occasional case of someone who likes every single character equally, and probably not much of a problem for most players. They do have the ability to copy poses easily for those ones you lack if you see someone using them though. They're supposed to improve the grinding rates so they're not so grindy, too, but this will probably be a work in progress over the entire development as I can't see them getting this just right in the next update.Quality isn't top priority when gacha is involved ... never a good sign when these appear in any game.. it just means the best stuff will constantly be hidden behind a paywall.
We got an actual game to play less than a year ago. I mean, if you would have just left it at complaining about lack of updates during the rebuild I'd get you but you went and had to exaggerate too much and it just became dishonest. The game is quite playable for decent specs but they are doing a rebuild because its not where it really needs to be. It sucks for us because the rebuild has held up them adding in content updates, though.I praised this game, still do. There is hope still for something grandious, something trully great, yet no progress by helios has been witnessed for past 2 years, all the same bullcrap they've been feeding us. Nothing will change I know. But there's hope, never underestimate that.
Don't forget that they have to reinvest a lot, probably most, of that money back into the project to continue development. This is how any development project goes. I'm not sure why your acting like they shouldn't make enough money to survive while also getting more money to continue work on a game that is not yet complete. This isn't new or alien. It's how virtually every game is made.worst part is that they're making fat stacks like this while I'm working an entry job and could barely feed myself with it if not for my dad
I saw Helius missed your inquiry about if other characters were dropping or we're sticking with base. I think its worth pursuing so I hope you can get a response on that because this is something I don't think Helius has been clear enough about I would like an answer to if we can get one.We can try like i said I'm open for dialogue, i do want to mention that even tho I'm part of the project and help helius's in realizing his project while helping out in staying in contact with the community i have by no means any direct influence in any decision made by helius himself, the only thing i can offer is some direct clarification on some of the things said and the general situation. I'm also not here to provoke anyone on these forums if this however doesn't work out on the forum itself you can always directly contact me on discord.
I wish this had some truth to it, because it would mean there were competing products that were of decent quality but there aren't. There is, unfortunately, almost no high quality 3D porn games aside from Illusions repetitive releases, VAM's crawling along when we get there, Wildlife which does a lot but has major low quality issues and is extremely niche, and the excessively limited Captain Hardcore project, aside from Fallen Doll. Most other projects fall far shorter. Something new would have to basically appear virtually overnight and make drastic progress to accomplish this.Word to the wise ... tell Helius other products\games will eat his lunch if he doesn't smarten up.
This game had some potential years ago.. but looking at the state of it now .. -> The competition isn't waiting.
This game is following the same steps as Wild Life -- another game that fell short of it's potential, forgot it's purpose and started chasing $$$
Money chasing money = no product.
Wow, I thought for sure I was shooting in the dark on this one. Just first off, I think it shows a lot you're actually willing to engage. And I know you're not a direct dev, I have my suspicions for why a lot of backer feedback gets ignored anyway. I just think without anything really being said by anyone on the team most things inevitably fall into inference and speculation. At least having something to go off is better than nothing.We can try like i said I'm open for dialogue, i do want to mention that even tho I'm part of the project and help helius's in realizing his project while helping out in staying in contact with the community i have by no means any direct influence in any decision made by helius himself, the only thing i can offer is some direct clarification on some of the things said and the general situation. I'm also not here to provoke anyone on these forums if this however doesn't work out on the forum itself you can always directly contact me on discord.
i'm pretty sure he's aware but helius is someone who focusses alot on his own work and isn't much influenced by what's happening with other project.Word to the wise ... tell Helius other products\games will eat his lunch if he doesn't smarten up.
This game had some potential years ago.. but looking at the state of it now .. -> The competition isn't waiting.
This game is following the same steps as Wild Life -- another game that fell short of it's potential, forgot it's purpose and started chasing $$$
Money chasing money = no product.
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Wow, I thought for sure I was shooting in the dark on this one. Just first off, I think it shows a lot you're actually willing to engage. And I know you're not a direct dev, I have my suspicions for why a lot of backer feedback gets ignored anyway. I just think without anything really being said by anyone on the team most things inevitably fall into inference and speculation. At least having something to go off is better than nothing.
I guess as for questions we can go with todays big drops. Helius is right, this isn't news to anyone following the discord but any sense why stuff like Gallery and Campaign being dropped doesn't get broadcast to potential Patrons or even really steam followers? It really leaves a sour taste when this exact issue is part of what made last Novembers launch bad, with many things mostly being distributed through the discord so the masses felt blind sided.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
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Is there any reason here to start feeling worried steam will be censoring even more now that Xeno's are blocked from most of the new content? A big pull of going Origins to Paralogue was more extreme content like monsters, so with little news on hound re-work, new xenos, or updates to the other map is there any reason to think Steam may be making the team slow down on more than just Galatea?
Also, in terms of Galatea the answers have always been cagey. What exactly was it that steam approved a ways back? My assumption has been it was in regards to the SFW campaign, but with that out where do things stand? And why the hesitance to just state she's been reworked? A characters whose lore is a 10 year old looking child surrogate is going to be a nightmare to land in Steam.
Also also, final note but you should be able to ping the mod and get a little chit saying you're affiliated with the project. And welcome to the dark side.
I'll somewhat buy the different engines in the modes contributing to the decision to stop gallery, but Helius has heavily alluded fewer offline features is to make it harder to crack. Either way, this isn't really an issue. It was killed ages ago.as far as i understand the reason why gallery stopped being worked on is because it initially had been develop on another engine, different pipeline and old infrastructure making it very difficult to make it work together with new system being used in harem mode, the plan however is still including stuff into the harem mode at a later point in time.
To maybe put a nail in this one, here's the point to saying it's scrapped.the campaign is not scrapped! but been put on hold until helius finished the harem rebuild and give everyone a fulfilling experience in harem mode or at least better then it's current status, main focus is getting a working build out before moving onto the next major update.
As for the Xeno's thing.the Xeno situation: this is only the limitation of the map as some people got excluded and ended up into empty rooms now instead of a switch the maps just separate into this one does allow and the other one doesn't( as far as i am aware), which we got complains about so this is not specifically censoring just more of thing that changed due to feedback and preventing (technical implications)ill ask still some more information if needed.
It's hard to buy that with the censorship angle because we know he does receive pressure on things like this, xenos and Galatea. The hound rework was steam pushback on it being too dog like. For Gala, Here and then deleted here we can see Patreon disliking it, and with Galatea getting her special mode of approval from steam it's fairly certain there's pressure there too. He's since been less open about it but clearly there's still issues.the only "censoring problem" we had was with Galatea being too small for patreon so for precaution helius took galatea back to the drawing board so to speak and re-adjusted her height (shouldn't have implications with how she currently looks)
and she has now been accepted by steam so she'll appear in the game s00n and yes also for sexual content.
I'm not really sure why this keeps being brought up in the past few pages but he has not described her ever as being an actual child. The past several quoted references by you and others also verify this. She has always been classified as an adult and not with a young age, either.It's hard to buy that with the censorship angle because we know he does receive pressure on things like this, xenos and Galatea. The hound rework was steam pushback on it being too dog like. For Gala, Here and then deleted here we can see Patreon disliking it, and with Galatea getting her special mode of approval from steam it's fairly certain there's pressure there too. He's since been less open about it but clearly there's still issues.
That also leaves the issue of her being designed to look 10.
No way that stays on steam without a definitive rework with Helius's history of describing her as an actual child.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
I'll somewhat buy the different engines in the modes contributing to the decision to stop gallery, but Helius has heavily alluded fewer offline features is to make it harder to crack. Either way, this isn't really an issue. It was killed ages ago.
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To maybe put a nail in this one, here's the point to saying it's scrapped.
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Within a minute, seconds really, Helius says Paralogue is scrapped. He then links that to not wanting to invest in an sfw title, with no one else bringing up the sfw title in the meantime so that link is entirely his own. Obviously this gets a bad reaction from people as stuff being canned is never a good sign.
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It's only after the reaction and with Miya's involvement that things are then backtracked. You work with Miya so I won't spend too much time talking shit on them, but after following this a while I've come to learn to take the things Miya says with a heavy grain of salt.
Anyway, no one denies that the campaign was in progress before this statement, is no longer in progress after this statement, and has no definite plans of work at this time. Given the sharp backtrack and that the situation alone fits a decent definition of cancelled it's hard to argue that saying it's not cancelled is anything more than splitting hairs. I mean, "It's not cancelled, we're just no longer working on it" doesn't really sell. I'm still going to call that cancelled.
As for the Xeno's thing.
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It seems like it would be a rushed decision to base it off whats seen in the beta considering there's been less than 30 players on average. There's no shortage of empty servers in both modes when you boot it up, simply because there's no one really playing anymore. I've only seen 1 other person total between both.
It's hard to buy that with the censorship angle because we know he does receive pressure on things like this, xenos and Galatea. The hound rework was steam pushback on it being too dog like. For Gala, Here and then deleted here we can see Patreon disliking it, and with Galatea getting her special mode of approval from steam it's fairly certain there's pressure there too. He's since been less open about it but clearly there's still issues.
That also leaves the issue of her being designed to look 10.
No way that stays on steam without a definitive rework with Helius's history of describing her as an actual child.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
yes Im agree with you, I rather pay full price game than doing gacha stuff, they make you actually pay more to get that instead buy it instantly .Quality isn't top priority when gacha is involved ... never a good sign when these appear in any game.. it just means the best stuff will constantly be hidden behind a paywall.
haha, also i wouldn't call it brave i believe everyone is capable of a normal adult conversation i do believe that both this community and our community is interested in a good porn game one way or another, someone asked me too come in and have a talk and so i think its worth a shot, i'm always open to hearing 2 sides of a story.Oh my we have a brave one! Welcome Colress !
I'm interested in how team works :
1) Is the work done by one dev visible to other members of the team? Like do you have platform that stuff gets uploaded to and others can give feedback on. Or the devs only send stuff to Helius and then he shares with others if he so desires?
2) Do you have like official chat that devs would use to talk about what they are working on and how it is going ? Or really members have no idea what others work on as it is all managed by Helius and if people are in contact with each other it is "unofficial" only.
3) Do you have meetings where you would talk about progress, goals for near future and Helius would accept feedback from the team ? Or is it more of : Helius announces whatever he so desires and if any feedback would be given it would be 1vs1 talk?