Unreal Engine Fallen Doll: Operation Lovecraft [v0.4.9 Cracked] [Project Helius]

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joebloggstogg

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GranTurboAutismo said:
If it's got a patreon and you are dumping money on it every month for years it deserves to be on that list. Would you unironically pay 500 dollars for Wildlife? I wouldnt, even if I make several times more than that in a week.

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> Would you unironically pay 500 dollars for Wildlife?

You just said yourself that people have, so what kind of question is this?

People will pay obscene amounts for porn.
 
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Terix3

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Piracy is not awful for games because people who consume pirated media wouldnt buy them anyway because they dont have money
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In most cases when people say that they "can't afford games" they are not in situation that they can't afford entertainment at all, they just need to be picky on what they spend their limited money on.
This is going to be a simplified example : you can either buy a game or a 6pack of beer - how do you spend your evening ? Well most will choose to pirate the game , buy the 6pack and have really nice evening. If they steal the beer there will be consequences ... Now however if they wouldn't be able to pirate they would actually need to chose one.
 
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Terix3 said:
First because you don't consider title worth your money doesn't mean it is a scam. I think that Subverse is well worth the money I spent on it. But people have unrealistic expectations they think that you few mil and inexperienced team is gonna result in AAA game.

Second many great games were made thanks to crowd funding, because some abuse it (human fucking nature) doesn't mean it is not worth to support devs this way.

If you think that classic publisher-dev way of developing game is the way to go and you worry about the money lost to scams - think about your successful game and think how much of the profit goes towards making games and how much goes to pockets of owners and investors.

Finally porn games are not only niche but also carry "image" cost so no publishers will want to pick them anyway. The obscure companies that are willing to take them up are no strange to scam themselves as they have no image to upkeep. Where would we be without patreon ? Probably playing crappy browser games.

@ Piracy ... ignoring the aspect whatever it is good or bad for porn games I think it can be easily said that it is another incentive to go patreon route.
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I agree with this, some of the games named above are clearly not "scams" and crowdfunding isn't inherently bad, however I do think it could do with some regulation.

Patreon's design for example is extraordinarily anti-consumer, it's essentially hand crafted to support scams and they have no incentive to change whilst they're earning their cut risk free. They make individual due diligence impossible, don't do any due diligence themselves, let devs manage their pages so they can remove negative comments/old posts, don't have any enforced requirements regarding roadmaps and product descriptions, there's no review functionality, they fight refunds tooth and nail etc.

Sooner or later there will probably be a massive project that causes this to come to a head and regulators will clamp down on it but it won't be over porn games. It'll probably get worse moving forward too as it becomes easier to put together impressive looking demos in UE5, even for those who lack the ability to follow through.
 
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Nihil5320 said:
I agree with this, some of the games named above are clearly not "scams" and crowdfunding isn't inherently bad, however I do think it could do with some regulation.

Patreon's design for example is extraordinarily anti-consumer, it's essentially hand crafted to support scams and they have no incentive to change whilst they're earning their cut risk free. They make individual due diligence impossible, don't do any due diligence themselves, let devs manage their pages so they can remove negative comments/old posts, don't have any enforced requirements regarding roadmaps and product descriptions, there's no review functionality, they fight refunds tooth and nail etc.

Sooner or later there will probably be a massive project that causes this to come to a head and regulators will clamp down on it but it won't be over porn games. It'll probably get worse moving forward too as it becomes easier to put together impressive looking demos in UE5, even for those who lack the ability to follow through.
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I have no hope for regulators, everyone says lootboxes are gambling, reports confirm it,research confirms it, regulators :"I don't see it, does it give me votes?".
Maybe patreon will do something themselves if some major drama would cause people to start leaving the platform.
 
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Nihil5320

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Terix3 said:
I have no hope for regulators, everyone says lootboxes are gambling, reports confirm it,research confirms it, regulators :"I don't see it, does it give me votes?".
Maybe patreon will do something themselves if some major drama would cause people to start leaving the platform.
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Regulators in the US won't do shit but on lootboxes for example Europe is
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The same is true of crowdfunding,
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, and currently focussed on investment models of crowdfunding, but sooner or later they will bring down some kind of banhammer on platforms like Patreon offering services to EU citizens if they don't clean up their act.
 
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GranTurboAutismo

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joebloggstogg said:
> Would you unironically pay 500 dollars for Wildlife?

You just said yourself that people have, so what kind of question is this?

People will pay obscene amounts for porn.
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The difference was between paying 20 dollars a month for 2 years or a 500 dollar single purchase. People seem to lose track of money when they subscribe to something or make continuous purchases. Like a girl going to starbucks every day or having 20 different music/video streaming website subscriptions probably does not realize how much she's wasting in the long run. Same shit
 
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Terix3 said:
In most cases when people say that they "can't afford games" they are not in situation that they can't afford entertainment at all, they just need to be picky on what they spend their limited money on.
This is going to be a simplified example : you can either buy a game or a 6pack of beer - how do you spend your evening ? Well most will choose to pirate the game , buy the 6pack and have really nice evening. If they steal the beer there will be consequences ... Now however if they wouldn't be able to pirate they would actually need to chose one.
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You're far from reality dude
 
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P1: *pokes dead body*
P2: "Is it alive?"
P1: "I don't know, it keeps twitching wildly, almost like it's dancing, but I don't think it's alive."
 
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