Unreal Engine Fallen Doll: Operation Lovecraft [v0.4.9 Cracked] [Project Helius]
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The concept was pretty good but yeah the implementation was about what you would expect. AI in games has something of a tendency to turn into spaghetti code so you either end up with bugs or very limited and basic behaviour. Or both.
I'd love to see a game built on the same concept (even a non-porn game) that really went all out. Epic introduced learning agents into Unreal recently too which should make this easier, so instead of using behaviour trees you could train a DNN based model to optimize for certain goals with reinforcement learning. You could do this before but this definitely lowers the bar to entry, although it still comes with downsides like the need to retrain models and difficulties in modifying/explaining behaviours.
Combine it with stuff like conversational AI and physics based animation and you could end up with, at the very least, a fairly awesome (if janky) tech demo. The trick there would be mapping the LLMs output to actual in game actions and coming up with a reward function that can get your behaviour model to pick up basic actions then develop them into achieving more complex goals.
Kind of makes me wish I'd done game dev as it would be an amazing project, plus it would be fucking hilarious if the first title to actually implement some of these approaches was a porn game.
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Actual AI AI would be interesting in games but I feel like that still far off...AI's are barely able to respond to extremely specific requests right not, let alone being able to interact with a player which may want a thousand things.
I really believe decision / behaviour trees are still the way to go and can be implemented properly with some care and proper separation, but it takes more skill than is usually available to do that...People that can implement that kind of thing cleanly don't seem to be working game dev jobs unfortunately...
It's not as far off as you think. Getting an agent to respond to specific requests is a bit tricky, as mentioned above matching an LLMs output to actual actions is not always straight forward, but you can mitigate this to some extent by very strictly limiting the dialogue flow and available actions.
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for example is a service recently announced for exactly this and their dialogue manager will do stuff like trigger new quests based on keywords, which is a fairly basic approach, but the application could additionally run sentiment analysis on the output (and/or user input) to only trigger events in a given context.It's the same with behaviour trees. You aren't going to get a completely free ranging agent capable of doing absolutely anything in an environment but one making higher level decisions like what to do or where to move to? That's arguably easier to achieve with ML these days than a complex behaviour tree, and even in environments with a very large action space you can use parameterized actions or action masking to keep things reasonable. Setting up the training environment and reward function is the hard part but once you've got that the model can figure out all the really finicky bits.
Finally layer on
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to generate animation dynamically in situations that require it, perhaps dodging items or traversing obstacles, and you can end up with a pretty convincing facsimile of a genuinely intelligent agent even if it is perhaps more limited than the sci-fi fever dreams some are expecting when they see the word "AI."That said I work with ML, in fintech specifically, and your last comment is probably on point. This is changing though as more and more universities introduce machine learning modules, better and easier to use libraries become available etc. Obviously we almost certainly won't see this stuff first in porn games but it wouldn't surprise me if indie devs are quicker to test it out than larger firms.
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It's not so bad modded, but that's usually how Illusion games are in general. Base game is okay, modded is superior.
It's pretty pathetic that their primary concern at this point is still subscriber growth. They've had minimum 14k+ monthly subs for over 2 years now. Several millions of dollars in funding and still no full release, previews of any actual content, or even a roadmap. Only a tech demo that has hardly any more content than 0.34 released 2 years ago.
Somehow all that money wasn't enough it seems. I'm certain they would just abandon the game if the current trend continues and sub counts tank. I guess we're supposed to fund Project Helius's entire development cost until they milk out even more profit post-release, if this game ever releases.
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I mean yea, but are there mods / plugins / whatever that make the actual game part of AI any better? (ignoring the studio, that's basicaly the same as HS2 afaik)
I myself don't know any mods that make AI's game better but I'd like to know if you do, because I may just give it another crack
- Oct 9, 2018
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It's Patreon due date.
The results are in, Helius just lost 1k of sub.
Glad to see more people lighten up and vote with their wallet.
The results are in, Helius just lost 1k of sub.
Glad to see more people lighten up and vote with their wallet.
For the most part, yes, however usually by a lesser amount and they have growth during the month where Helius no longer does.
kinda crazy, how we got string alone for what? 6+ year? with Sketches and shit, not even one single screenshot of the so call campaign and still 13k sub
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If you look at their graph they used to have monthly growth to offset the drop. It was trending down but only by a couple hundred month to month. Now there's no growth, it's just a flat line and a straight drop of 1k-ish subs.
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Last I had AI Shoujo installed I was just using the repack IIRC. There were some mods included in the repack that made the building a little more enjoyable like removing building placement restrictions, free form building or snapping things into place(iirc), and lessening material costs/removing material costs. There were other mods that made personalities more varied IIRC, but none that drastically changed gameplay. I know there was a mod that add survival elements with the girls needing to eat/drink/sleep, pregancy(the girl temporarily leaves the island after being pregnant for some time), but other than that not too many gameplay altering mods I remember atm. I remember I just turned on the survival mod and increased the number of girls that could be spawned at once and just played it like a management game. Building a house with interactable stuff for the girls to mess around with or to interact with each other and making food sources, that kind of thing.
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Ah okay, I had that stuff as well. Wasn't too enjoyable to me though...I only really wanted one single girl and she was just broken all the time. I remember being able to free place building blocks as well but my issue was they never fit together properly lol As in I couldn't get them to look good at all
Their Patreon launched September 2016, literally the instant Patreon changed their community guidelines to allow adult content, so nearly seven years.
That's not including the fact that it was already in development before the Patreon launch so realistically it's probably closer to eight or nine years if you go from the first previews of "Daisy in Summer." That fits with the timeline of them starting pretty much the moment Epic launched UE4 with a public license too.
If we take their claims at face value that means 9 years for a very limited and buggy tech demo. According to Helius they've completed the script, voice acting, level design, ux design and mocap for campaign multiple times but just... never released anything.
It's what makes this project so fascinating. They can do the absolute minimum to create a functional tech demo, make bold faced lies repeatedly and thanks to the design of sites like Patreon they can keep it going for years as the developers themselves have absolute power to hide feedback, there's no oversight of their marketing and they can even delete their prior statements if they want to walk stuff back.
Can't just blame Helius, scammer that he is. All the smoothbrains that keep throwing money his way, for years on end, without getting anything in return are the chief culprits here. They're the ones that keep enabling the scam.
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Those youtubes videos did good job on waking up some of those patreons it seems, we still need more, and then maybe they will put a bit of work on this game.
kirito mod says failed opening file logs core and its unable to start. apparently it doesnt exist. any solution?