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vutaboss

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Here's the full post. Helius probably edited it sometime after yessiyuri took their screenshot.

Seems like they're going to look at the suggestions channel finally but of course all the past suggestions that had many upvotes will likely be ignored.

Making the game slightly less grindy and time consuming is a step in the right direction, but they still have a long way to go. I doubt they'll ever get rid of the battle pass and gacha mechanics entirely unfortunately. It seems they're also going to begin working on VR and UE5 soon.

I don't trust the VR "prioritization". It sounds like an excuse to pivot away and not deliver all the things promised for 2023.
 

Nihil5320

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Here's the full post. Helius probably edited it sometime after yessiyuri took their screenshot.

Seems like they're going to look at the suggestions channel finally but of course all the past suggestions that had many upvotes will likely be ignored.

Making the game slightly less grindy and time consuming is a step in the right direction, but they still have a long way to go. I doubt they'll ever get rid of the battle pass and gacha mechanics entirely unfortunately. It seems they're also going to begin working on VR and UE5 soon.
I don't think Helius is looking at suggestions, at least not any more than he was before, he's just using it as a way of deflecting criticism. Making the game less grindy was meant to be a large part of phase 2 so it's not like he just wasn't aware of the feedback:
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Instead of the above he made it more grindy and the only reason he's reversing a tiny, and I really do mean tiny, bit now is because he needs to try and put on a PR show as the game started getting bad press and Patreon subs flatlined.

The depressing part is going to be if this little PR push actually works. That seems to be Helius' MO down to a T. He'll implement the low hanging fruit, like putting VR back in an animation viewer UE project, but he'll drag it out and in 12 months time this project will be in largely the same position it is now maybe with a VR version of Harem mode tacked on. Then he'll do a UE5 "rebuild" and you're back at square one and all the while he's raking in ~$100k a month via Patreon.

It really is quite disappointing that nearly a decade on this mess continues to take in quite a lot of money that could be going toward real developers working on real projects that are actually going somewhere.
 

mini810

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No One:
Helius: Ah yes! You people want VR and you shall have it! See! We're good dev that makes (false) promises and shall (fail to) deliver! Keep supporting us (getting milked by us) and you can find out (you are an idiot)!

...hm...? Oh yes of course I can't wait to play this on my Apple Vision Pro :KEK: in 15 years
 

SortaLewd

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I don't think Helius is looking at suggestions, at least not any more than he was before, he's just using it as a way of deflecting criticism. Making the game less grindy was meant to be a large part of phase 2 so it's not like he just wasn't aware of the feedback:
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Instead of the above he made it more grindy and the only reason he's reversing a tiny, and I really do mean tiny, bit now is because he needs to try and put on a PR show as the game started getting bad press and Patreon subs flatlined.

The depressing part is going to be if this little PR push actually works. That seems to be Helius' MO down to a T. He'll implement the low hanging fruit, like putting VR back in an animation viewer UE project, but he'll drag it out and in 12 months time this project will be in largely the same position it is now maybe with a VR version of Harem mode tacked on. Then he'll do a UE5 "rebuild" and you're back at square one and all the while he's raking in ~$100k a month via Patreon.

It really is quite disappointing that nearly a decade on this mess continues to take in quite a lot of money that could be going toward real developers working on real projects that are actually going somewhere.
Yep, addressing the grind was something Helius said he was going to do during 2022, but nothing significant happened. As with all things concerning Fallen Doll, you can't take Helius' word at face value. He very rarely delivers so I'm not actually expecting UE5 or VR anytime soon. It'll be interesting at least to see how things turn out.
 

Smaild

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Implement VR? Damn!

As I said in the previous post. Developers now only look for excuses to increase development time and earn more money; deviating from what really matters, which is to finish the game itself with the guidelines set at the beginning of development.
 

Nihil5320

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Implement VR? Damn!

As I said in the previous post. Developers now only look for excuses to increase development time and earn more money; deviating from what really matters, which is to finish the game itself with the guidelines set at the beginning of development.
Tbf this game had VR two years ago so I guess technically he's reimplementing VR? Although that just makes it funnier.
 

XTX2509

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Can someone correct me if I'm wrong...
I saw Coolgy make a complete ass out of himself for defending Helius...

Am I wrong that patreon shows they make $50k+ a month???

They're making that much money... and someone in here "coolgy" is saying words like
"well if 36$ will bankrupt you....Don't buy it"

Now I see how they keep suckering their fanbase.
Either that or he's a complete insider shill.

... I usually don't post, but am I the only one that sees this?
 

BobbyMoore2

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Can someone correct me if I'm wrong...
I saw Coolgy make a complete ass out of himself for defending Helius...

Am I wrong that patreon shows they make $50k+ a month???

They're making that much money... and someone in here "coolgy" is saying words like
"well if 36$ will bankrupt you....Don't buy it"

Now I see how they keep suckering their fanbase.
Either that or he's a complete insider shill.

... I usually don't post, but am I the only one that sees this?
Yeah but they're an indie dev. Not a triple A studio, so you need to set your expectations (and give them your money).



Or so they keep saying in the discord.
 

ShadowChanSeh

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Can someone correct me if I'm wrong...
I saw Coolgy make a complete ass out of himself for defending Helius...

Am I wrong that patreon shows they make $50k+ a month???

They're making that much money... and someone in here "coolgy" is saying words like
"well if 36$ will bankrupt you....Don't buy it"

Now I see how they keep suckering their fanbase.
Either that or he's a complete insider shill.

... I usually don't post, but am I the only one that sees this?
Coolguy is likely either Helius or one of the discord mods as they only ever comment here and do so to defend the game or spread some absolute bs about how good it is. This is the same guy that denied that Galtea was meant to be a loli and was bragging about how he was going to be raw dogging her soon™ over a year ago.
 

XTX2509

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Yeah but they're an indie dev. Not a triple A studio, so you need to set your expectations (and give them your money).


Or so they keep saying in the discord.
I would agree with the indie dev pay..
But bro, what the hell are people paying for?

I've been watching this project for over a year now with absolutely no major updates that matter in anyway shape or form.
Not only that, but if a high paying customer is wondering wtf is going on, they immediately shut them down and remove their posts.. Which I've seen myself.

I usually don't get pissed off, but when I realized they made that much monthly... There's no way I can look at them as nothing less than scumbags

Coolguy is likely either Helius or one of the discord mods as they only ever comment here and do so to defend the game or spread some absolute bs about how good it is. This is the same guy that denied that Galtea was meant to be a loli and was bragging about how he was going to be raw dogging her soon™ over a year ago.
I looked through his post history the other day.

Falling on a post where he called members here entitled and spoiled.
https://f95zone.to/posts/10263182/

If I ever see a post from him again, it will be too soon.
 
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Nihil5320

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Coolguy is likely either Helius or one of the discord mods as they only ever comment here and do so to defend the game or spread some absolute bs about how good it is. This is the same guy that denied that Galtea was meant to be a loli and was bragging about how he was going to be raw dogging her soon™ over a year ago.
To be fair this game has likely had tens of thousands of unique Patreon subscribers over the years, it is inevitable that some small percentage will be fans especially when a lot of new users come to the project without any knowledge of its rather long and hilarious history. For them this is the first rebuild or the first time Helius has promised [x].

Also wasn't that last part BobKilan? He's the only user on my ignore list so pretty sure it was him, unless multiple people have made the same arguments.
 

BobbyMoore2

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I would agree with the indie dev pay..
But bro, what the hell are people paying for?

I've been watching this project for over a year now with absolutely no major updates that matter in anyway shape or form.
Not only that, but if a high paying customer is wondering wtf is going on, they immediately shut them down and remove their posts.. Which I've seen myself.

I usually don't get pissed off, but when I realized they made that much monthly... There's no way I can look at them as nothing less than scumbags
I don't agree with the indie Dev route, there's probably some guys out there who could spin a much better product with the millions Helius has had over the years. That kind of time and money, I'd expect someone to releasing a v1 and being THE porn game every is talking about (for positive reasons).

I forget the team's name, but you just have to look at the Dev team on Third Crisis, transitioned from making a okay 2D game to outputting a 3D game alongside their original product, and I bet they've not shat up communication or have as much money as Helius does.

I'm willing to bet the current situation at team PH is this, original Dev/Artist(s) who did most of the work has fucked off, asked for more money or realised they're worth more than what they were earning.

New people brought in for cheaper price or it's reverted to Helius doing this shit himself. Hence 14+ months of broken slow updates.

But I would say that's assuming no malice but the shit communication to the people paying you all this money is a joke.

I feel bad for the people who play the demo, then jump through their silly system to get a beta key and realised they've been ass fucked. No remorse for those funneling him money month after month however.
 
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They're making that much money... and someone in here "coolgy" is saying words like
"well if 36$ will bankrupt you....Don't buy it"
...
Please go easy on the cool guys, they just can't think straight due to the colossal amounts of copium in their nervous system and all that (imaginary) Galatea dogging can take a toll on anyone's health.

No amount of mental gymnastics can justify this Fallen Project, period.
 

ShadowChanSeh

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To be fair this game has likely had tens of thousands of unique Patreon subscribers over the years, it is inevitable that some small percentage will be fans especially when a lot of new users come to the project without any knowledge of its rather long and hilarious history. For them this is the first rebuild or the first time Helius has promised [x].

Also wasn't that last part BobKilan? He's the only user on my ignore list so pretty sure it was him, unless multiple people have made the same arguments.
Fair enough, however Coolguy has been around for way too long to be given that recently discovered leeway. I'm also not entirely unconvinced that Cool bro and Bobby boi aren't the same person. The level of cope and blatant antagonism that these two show can't possibly be shown by two different individuals unless...
Have the Helius fans given up their individuality and become a collective!?
 
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Marakemi Ionis

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I extracted the game alr but can't play, it says "Easy-anti cheat haven't been installed". Help?
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Which version is this?

Also no matter where I look, I can't find anything beyond v0.4.9. Is there no cracks/ leaks for the reccent versions?
Anyone know anything about this? It's been years we've been waiting for a decently playable something now.
 
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