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McAztec

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cracking it now would be like stealing a car that yeets you across the sky to get you to your destination instead of driving, but you always land at the dealer instead so that you can buy sexy outfits to fly and splat in style
Right, and you need to pay a fee to enter the car, start the engine, use the radio, etc.
I thought EA is scummy, but I think they're just taking notes right now. I've seen mobile games that are less predatory, hell, even a casino is less predatory...

If you guys want the new version just rename the exe to V0.7, you won't feel the difference from what I'm told.
 

Nihil5320

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Right, and you need to pay a fee to enter the car, start the engine, use the radio, etc.
I thought EA is scummy, but I think they're just taking notes right now. I've seen mobile games that are less predatory, hell, even a casino is less predatory...

If you guys want the new version just rename the exe to V0.7, you won't feel the difference from what I'm told.
To be fair to EA, and the F2P industry in general, they are almost impressive in the extent to which they milk their customers.

They have it down to a fine art at this point. Implementing artificial near misses, variable reward ratios, obfuscating spending behind layers of virtual currency, utilising nudge theory and even manipulating decision making under type 1/2 processing by introducing cognitive load when displaying nudges, then you've got choice architecture and dark patterns all AB tested to shit and iteratively improved over years of testing on massive audiences...

Comparing what Helius is doing to them is like comparing modern day heart surgery with a drunk 1700s doctor performing amputations with a chainsaw. Nobody is taking notes, it's an amateur hour shitshow. Helius has done a good job milking Patreon but that's because Patreon make it so easy; given what we've seen so far there's no way he can translate that to a F2P that actually keeps generating revenue for more than a few months post-release.
 

McAztec

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To be fair to EA, and the F2P industry in general, they are almost impressive in the extent to which they milk their customers.

They have it down to a fine art at this point. Implementing artificial near misses, variable reward ratios, obfuscating spending behind layers of virtual currency, utilising nudge theory and even manipulating decision making under type 1/2 processing by introducing cognitive load when displaying nudges, then you've got choice architecture and dark patterns all AB tested to shit and iteratively improved over years of testing on massive audiences...

Comparing what Helius is doing to them is like comparing modern day heart surgery with a drunk 1700s doctor performing amputations with a chainsaw. Nobody is taking notes, it's an amateur hour shitshow. Helius has done a good job milking Patreon but that's because Patreon make it so easy; given what we've seen so far there's no way he can translate that to a F2P that actually keeps generating revenue for more than a few months post-release.
After milking the Patreon he's now milking the steam part, isn't he? I was told there is a store with in-game stuff, battle passes and research passed and whatnot.
In any case the fact that he managed to take up the model from the most scummy part of the gaming industry and apply it here with his small team is in itself a feat, but for worse, like the feats of a villain. He made the Scuminator 9000.
 
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Nihil5320

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After milking the Patreon he's now milking the steam part, isn't he? I was told there is a store with in-game stuff, battle passes and research passed and whatnot.
In any case the fact that he managed to take up the model from the most scummy part of the gaming industry and apply it here with his small team is in itself a feat, but for worse, like the feats of a villain. He made the Scuminator 9000.
There is a store, and all the other crap you'd expect in a F2P, but it's aggressive monetization in the sense of just being dumb rather than anything functional. It's like watching a child draw a picture of a house. It vaguely conforms to the correct shape and the subject is identifiable yet all the proportions are wrong, nothing is quite functional and they've drooled all over the page in one of the corners.

You can see the effect of this in the . There are quite a few players with access to the closed beta, as evidenced by the 1.5k peak from a few years ago, and yet average online users rapidly dropped to tens of players within a few weeks after the latest patch. It's averaging ~50 online at the moment and still trending downward.

You can't build a F2P with that kind of player churn. There's no core gameplay loop to keep people playing, the grind is tedious and even the lootboxes lack the kind of subtlety most F2Ps have with simulating near misses, artificial reward ratios etc. Even if I were on board with building a hyper-aggressively monetized F2P game... this is not the way to do it.

The most likely outcome of all this is that if Helius ever actually does launch this game it'll be dead within a year and the servers will get shut off. Especially since they somehow managed to mess up the design of the backend to the point where it can barely handle 300 concurrent players.
 

McAztec

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There is a store, and all the other crap you'd expect in a F2P, but it's aggressive monetization in the sense of just being dumb rather than anything functional. It's like watching a child draw a picture of a house. It vaguely conforms to the correct shape and the subject is identifiable yet all the proportions are wrong, nothing is quite functional and they've drooled all over the page in one of the corners.

You can see the effect of this in the . There are quite a few players with access to the closed beta, as evidenced by the 1.5k peak from a few years ago, and yet average online users rapidly dropped to tens of players within a few weeks after the latest patch. It's averaging ~50 online at the moment and still trending downward.

You can't build a F2P with that kind of player churn. There's no core gameplay loop to keep people playing, the grind is tedious and even the lootboxes lack the kind of subtlety most F2Ps have with simulating near misses, artificial reward ratios etc. Even if I were on board with building a hyper-aggressively monetized F2P game... this is not the way to do it.

The most likely outcome of all this is that if Helius ever actually does launch this game it'll be dead within a year and the servers will get shut off. Especially since they somehow managed to mess up the design of the backend to the point where it can barely handle 300 concurrent players.

All true. Besides most F2Ps need those "whales" to make up for the free users, but that's usually in games that have some kind of competition of PvP or such, not in a porn game. The incentive structure is quite different.

The backend being a mess isn't a problem, the backend existing and being necessary at all is the problem imo. Helius could've made something really nice, made a boatload of money from it in addition to the money he's already got from patreon, but instead he tried pulling a fast one...
 
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All true. Besides most F2Ps need those "whales" to make up for the free users, but that's usually in games that have some kind of competition of PvP or such, not in a porn game. The incentive structure is quite different.

The backend being a mess isn't a problem, the backend existing and being necessary at all is the problem imo. Helius could've made something really nice, made a boatload of money from it in addition to the money he's already got from patreon, but instead he tried pulling a fast one...
no such thing as fast with helius bruh.
 

HardcoreCuddler

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do u know how can i filter search results by date?or order them by it?
There is an "order by" section in the advanced ssearch page, at the bottom.
guys hey sorry weird question but like do girls that look like Alet exist irl?
Never seen one quite like alet, but I've seen similar on the internet I guess. It's pretty rare to get a girl with massive chonkers that isn't at least solid-built, if not fat, because fat tends to build in other places and not on the boobs for some stupid reason
 
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itzbob

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Does the steam/pateron version have content not available in the 049 cracked version? New girls/monsters/poses?
 

itzbob

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I wasnt sure if they were still adding content but in a way the forum wasnt able to crack. So im still not sure. Thanks.
 
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