I wonder if Project helius are they actually watching those over 700 pages and they will change their minds?
MaestreOfChaos This by the way is the definition of censoring though.It most certainly is up to each one where they put their money, as we've said before. But here's another profound truth, it's not right, in our civilization at least, to go around pretending to shut down dissenting opinions, specially without sound arguments.
They don't give a rat's ass about paying customers. What makes you think they're going to care what sailors of the seven seas say?I wonder if Project helius are they actually watching those over 700 pages and they will change their minds?
Mind you, they come here from time to time to preemptively ban usernames and/or try to counter the negative trend. One of their yes men told us my username was banned there when I don't even have a Discord user under this aliasThey don't give a rat's ass about paying customers. What makes you think they're going to care what sailors of the seven seas say?
It's not that serious, that guy was seriously stretching by the time he got to that third video.Just watched the videos...I had no clue this is so serious. This is literally jail time material...
Even bigger shock is this game's position on Steam...
15K patreons...
They should change the name to Operation Amway or Operation SBF or...Operation cough*cough*cough*Epstein*cough*cough*cough*...
Right you're.It's not that serious, that guy was seriously stretching by the time he got to that third video.
Like I'm 100% no fan of Helius, he's an incompetent dev and 95% of this project is just spit and tape holding together some purchased assets, but there's nothing to suggest there is or has ever been any such content in that Discord. Suggesting that they just don't moderate a channel is irresponsible but to equate it to explicitly permitting or encouraging child pornography is reprehensible clickbaiting by that YouTuber.
I will just add to this that this doesn't take much time these days. I can train a simple CNN based classifier with >99% accuracy and virtually 0% false negative rate in a few minutes on a single workstation. Data prep is a little bit more involved to eliminate biases but it barely counts as a challenge if your main concern is identifying a single class.As we are now in the dawn of AI CG a new challenge has arisen and upload filters that are based on hashes arent up to the task anymore and site will have to resort to ai filters themself... but those have to be trained themselve of course that will take time.
So there is bound to get some shit on your site, channel, board, chat, etc. that has to be cleared by mods.
I think this is a little disingenuous as well, not everybody paid for an animation gallery. The game was originally advertised as something completely different and even now any user that visits the Steam store page certainly isn't going to be expecting a F2P animation viewer from descriptions like this:That said for the around 30 bucks one has to pay, everyone can decide themself if that is too much or not by buying into it or not. Noone has a gun at his temple and is pressured to pay more for this animation gallery and anyone that is paying for content that doesent exists and then is butthurt and cant let go that it doesent see the light of day should probably think about his own choices.
It has become a cultureHolysmith, why people here so serious?
Users on this thread like to express different opinions on how they view the game.Holysmith, why people here so serious?
well if you find that the opinions of others amuses you, i am happy for you.This thread has offered me more enjoyment and entertainment than this "game" could have ever hoped to. Is there a Patrion to keep this going?
Yeah you can train an ai incredible fast. That doesent mean that its going to be 100% giving you the result you want.I will just add to this that this doesn't take much time these days. I can train a simple CNN based classifier with >99% accuracy and virtually 0% false negative rate in a few minutes on a single workstation. Data prep is a little bit more involved to eliminate biases but it barely counts as a challenge if your main concern is identifying a single class.
Sites have accordingly been using this approach over (or more accurately in combination with) hashes for years. There is an issue with adversarial networks trained to mask images and mess with classification, see the University of Chicago's Nightshade as an example, but that's a whole different ball game.
I think this is a little disingenuous as well, not everybody paid for an animation gallery. The game was originally advertised as something completely different and even now any user that visits the Steam store page certainly isn't going to be expecting a F2P animation viewer from descriptions like this:
There are all sorts of mentions littered about for features they don't have, aren't developing or have removed. It's hardly surprising that there are a lot of salty backers especially combined with the piss poor development and project management standards.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Yeah I was just highlighting that it's not difficult and the approach has been in widespread use for years, as your original comment seemed to suggest that it was something we're only now transitioning to. Imagenet was a decade ago now. ML isn't a new approach, especially for computer vision. It's just the media attention around generative models that is recent.Yeah you can train an ai incredible fast. That doesent mean that its going to be 100% giving you the result you want.
And Discord is using some kind of ai to detect naughty stuff anyway and it works which one can see when you have your content filter on and cant see or recieve things. That doesent mean that it can 100% pick a legal from a borderline legal to an illegal ai pic off a hald naked woman.
And problem with training an ai for detecting illegal material is that you will have to feed it illegal material to begin with, which is illegal to possess if your not part of the authorities
So no not everyone can just make an ai filter for illegal content as the production of one would incrimminate you.
As an aside I don't think anybody ever wanted SFW gameplay. They wanted a NSFW game with a functional gameplay loop incorporating adult content.3rd group is the one that wants sfw gameplay.
That can actually happen or not? Who knows at this point?
He said he tried and failed so far to make something good ... that doesent mean that hes not trying again or that he never tried.
And there are as i mentioned a lot of game out there that failed at delivering promises or are still in development with no end in sight.
I personally would be very surprised if that sfw part will make people happy tho if it ever comes into fruition and that is just based on the observation that all people have to base their expections on are some rumors and vague descriptions people can interpreted a lot into it and people always imagine more than what is brought to the table at the end.
Your right about the ai part.Yeah I was just highlighting that it's not difficult and the approach has been in widespread use for years, as your original comment seemed to suggest that it was something we're only now transitioning to. Imagenet was a decade ago now. ML isn't a new approach, especially for computer vision. It's just the media attention around generative models that is recent.
As for your last comment the typical approach is to just build two classifiers. One to classify pornographic content, which most platforms need anyway, and an additional one to put age of subjects in a range. Both types of classifier can be trained very easily or you can just download the weights for a model online (there are quite a few).
As an aside I don't think anybody ever wanted SFW gameplay. They wanted a NSFW game with a functional gameplay loop incorporating adult content.
Helius' proposal to split the game into NSFW and SFW was weird as fuck to say the least and I don't think any but the hardest superfans/Helius alt accounts had anything positive to say about it.
I can't say whether I wanted it or not because they never actually made it or revealed any info about it other than the most basic concepts. I know it was supposed to be a turn based tactical RPG, the girls were involved somehow, and I think it was supposed to be the main progression system before they did a 180 into gacha fomo grinding. What little I know about it still sounds better than what we ended up getting though.As an aside I don't think anybody ever wanted SFW gameplay. They wanted a NSFW game with a functional gameplay loop incorporating adult content.
Helius' proposal to split the game into NSFW and SFW was weird as fuck to say the least and I don't think any but the hardest superfans/Helius alt accounts had anything positive to say about it.
Meta-complaining. You must have skipped most of the thread (which is understandable), since you also didn't add anything to the discussion that we haven't said several times before.-
Normally i dont show up here anymore because everyone except me is stupid and should shut up already
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nuff said.
I guess the average online interaction is so hollow that now it's baffling when someone expresses an opinion with actual arguments to back it up.Holysmith, why people here so serious?
Why not ask the vendor themselves instead of some backwater pirate forum?Whats the different between Student, Laborer and Clerk?
Wrong again and this is a perfect example of why it's so hard to have a discussion these days, people will try to play and bend words to fit whatever their narrative is:-
If something is then a scam or not is at this point in time more of an interpretion of scam
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