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I dont think its ok to change wording in a quote.
That is something one shouldnt do in quotation marks.
I would like you to edit this and put either the original text there or delete this.
And put your interpretion under it.
I have nothing against your interpretation tho, as i see it as valuabe feedback and gives me reflection of my words, which indeed may have been a bit on the harsh side and i always have to remind myself that written text and wording sometimes cut deeper or is more hurting than one intends.
It was/is not my intend to shut this discussion down or convince people of one side or the other.
I stated my reason why i dont come here very often.
And i didnt called people stupid, called em butthurt. Which i should have phrased just as "hurt" in hindsight.
I added the fanboys part, cause i see fans often as more vulnerable of being hurt and ending in frustration when they dont get what they expected or want.
As for the scamming:
I tried to put this in words when i said " If something is then a scam or not is at this point in time more of an interpretion of scam "
thanks to my limited english its not 100% what i think about this or what i really meant.
I was/am more trying to say, i hope this is clearer, that the lines of where a scam begins, or a project turns out to be scam or if it was intended to be a scam are a matter of facts and or personal interpretation and therefor where the line is if someone identifies something as a scam for themself or not. And this is clearly diffrent for people.
Just look at something like star citizen and how divided the discussions about that project are, if it is a scam or not.
When it comes to Fallen Doll now Lovecraft project the facts are what you can see on the outside, but there are no trustworthy insider facts to base an opinion on.
Imo as i stated the translator wasent in a position to make a statement of further development based on the text he had to work on.
Discord Steam mod related stuff and Public relations communications are also a bit of a thing themself.
There was that modder that was supposedly joining the project and stated there was more than i thought or something. But how trustworthy is that?
Its all rumors from where i stand.
Some screenshots and the like one can see on old patreon posts are also more or less useless to see the current stage or stages or development for diffrent game modes.
That leaves us with the facts we can see and got and what the project was and has become in its diffrent stages and its creators behaviour and output.
And the interpretation of each and everyone of us of what we have witnessed or got.
And that also differs for people very much due to the fact that people joined this at diffrent points in time and with diffrent expectations.
I could produce a probably even longer text about how i see this all went down and how i see things but the text is already again in the tldr region and therefor i stop myself here.. and thats by the way why i said "nuff said"..
not to shut people up ... but to shut myself up
nuff said for now from me
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but i edited outside in a textdocument and then posted in as post
Since it would be work for mods to change this from post to reply i edited this to clarify.
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I dont think its ok to change wording in a quote.
That is something one shouldnt do in quotation marks.
I would like you to edit this and put either the original text there or delete this.
And put your interpretion under it.
I have nothing against your interpretation tho, as i see it as valuabe feedback and gives me reflection of my words, which indeed may have been a bit on the harsh side and i always have to remind myself that written text and wording sometimes cut deeper or is more hurting than one intends.
It was/is not my intend to shut this discussion down or convince people of one side or the other.
I stated my reason why i dont come here very often.
And i didnt called people stupid, called em butthurt. Which i should have phrased just as "hurt" in hindsight.
I added the fanboys part, cause i see fans often as more vulnerable of being hurt and ending in frustration when they dont get what they expected or want.
As for the scamming:
I tried to put this in words when i said " If something is then a scam or not is at this point in time more of an interpretion of scam "
thanks to my limited english its not 100% what i think about this or what i really meant.
I was/am more trying to say, i hope this is clearer, that the lines of where a scam begins, or a project turns out to be scam or if it was intended to be a scam are a matter of facts and or personal interpretation and therefor where the line is if someone identifies something as a scam for themself or not. And this is clearly diffrent for people.
Just look at something like star citizen and how divided the discussions about that project are, if it is a scam or not.
When it comes to Fallen Doll now Lovecraft project the facts are what you can see on the outside, but there are no trustworthy insider facts to base an opinion on.
Imo as i stated the translator wasent in a position to make a statement of further development based on the text he had to work on.
Discord Steam mod related stuff and Public relations communications are also a bit of a thing themself.
There was that modder that was supposedly joining the project and stated there was more than i thought or something. But how trustworthy is that?
Its all rumors from where i stand.
Some screenshots and the like one can see on old patreon posts are also more or less useless to see the current stage or stages or development for diffrent game modes.
That leaves us with the facts we can see and got and what the project was and has become in its diffrent stages and its creators behaviour and output.
And the interpretation of each and everyone of us of what we have witnessed or got.
And that also differs for people very much due to the fact that people joined this at diffrent points in time and with diffrent expectations.
I could produce a probably even longer text about how i see this all went down and how i see things but the text is already again in the tldr region and therefor i stop myself here.. and thats by the way why i said "nuff said"..
not to shut people up ... but to shut myself up
nuff said for now from me
