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What do you mean, there are updates its 0.7.0 version currentlyIt's a shame to see that. There are no updates to the game. No hack because of denuva. Eh.
What do you mean, there are updates its 0.7.0 version currentlyIt's a shame to see that. There are no updates to the game. No hack because of denuva. Eh.
I think you can use hex editor on .exe to check mentions of denuvo but I don't know any more details.Hey so uhhh anyone know which version of Denuvo this game uses becauseYou must be registered to see the links...if it's V18 we may be onto something. But for some reason I doubt it's V18 and I can't even find any docs on the versions of Denuvo.
It'll be an older version so probably not relevant, I did have a quick check and there's no references to the version in the executable (although the string Denuvo shows up a lot) so I presume the version number is not something they go out of their way to broadcast. Probably for the obvious reasons.Hey so uhhh anyone know which version of Denuvo this game uses becauseYou must be registered to see the links...if it's V18 we may be onto something. But for some reason I doubt it's V18 and I can't even find any docs on the versions of Denuvo.
I mean at least they have logging I guess but this is the kind of stuff I'd expect from someone making their first applicationStateCode:500ErrorCode:1002002Content:Insufficient Expedited Certificates.
I've just remembered something, I think empress once said version numbers are just empres's own versioning instead of them being official numbers because denuvo doesn't actually have version numbers in it. I could be remembering wrong but I'm fairly sure about this. I've read about this a long time ago, it was either on reddit or on one of the game .nfo's.It'll be an older version so probably not relevant, I did have a quick check and there's no references to the version in the executable (although the string Denuvo shows up a lot) so I presume the version number is not something they go out of their way to broadcast. Probably for the obvious reasons.
this is not good news for cuck heliusYou must be registered to see the links
Just saw this.
Dude...the logging thing is just...wtf...It'll be an older version so probably not relevant, I did have a quick check and there's no references to the version in the executable (although the string Denuvo shows up a lot) so I presume the version number is not something they go out of their way to broadcast. Probably for the obvious reasons.
I don't think it would help anyway since it comes with a bunch of randomised obfuscation, encryption etc. Even for a different build of the same title with the same Denuvo version I imagine you'd be back at square one needing Empress level skills, and gods knows how many man hours, to crack it again. Unless of course Helius made a major boo boo somewhere.
On an amusing side note I did notice whilst looking that the game saves an individual error file in \Paralogue\Saved\ErrorLog for every single error. Like it doesn't append the error to a single file or have one file per session, oh no, it creates a new file. Every. Single. Time.
Not only that but the date format is yyyymmdd, which is fine, but it cuts the leading zeroes off the month and day so you sometimes get yyyymmd or yyyymd. I don't think I've ever seen a standard library that uses that format. They must be getting the day, month and year as ints all separately and just mashing them together into a string instead of just using put_time or something which is just... dumb.
Plus it's followed by what looks like a timestamp from a monotonic clock (maybe), but its variable length so you can't even cut it off to get the actual date. Naturally the time isn't stored in the file either and it's just the error string all on a single line with zero formatting or separators:
I mean at least they have logging I guess but this is the kind of stuff I'd expect from someone making their first application
Also in \Paralogue\Content\Movies there are a bunch of video files which clearly still have shutterstock watermarks on, quick Google image search and looks like most of the snazzy HUD elements in gameYou must be registered to see the links. I suspect that's probably standard practice for indie devs to an extent, not sure what it says about all the artists supposedly on staff mind you, but leaving random unused stuttershock preview files in the assets? That's got licensing nightmare written all over it.
Anyway rant over. This project just looks dumber and dumber the longer you look at it.
I am famous nowYou must be registered to see the links
Just saw this.
Yeah it's just really weird. What are they going to do if they ever actually need to review the logs, hope they know what they're looking for so they can search the file contents? Get a user to email them 100k files and hope it doesn't strip the housekeeping data so they can still get timestamps from the metadata?Dude...the logging thing is just...wtf...
It's INCREDIBLY easy to get proper logs. All the log functions are basicaly written for you, and all you have to do is specify parameters.
Modern loggers can distinguish between release and debug builds out of the box.
Date formatters can seemingly get you a unix timestamp from the most disorganised of date string formats. This is the complicated part, getting something to aid machines from something that humans understand, and they can't format a fucking date from the current time when the log is created, which is the easy thing??? That's fucking shameful for a year 1 Uni student let alone a game studio.
If they can't do that, I can't even imagine the absolute nightmare that the rest of the codebase is. No fucking wonder the "test phase" flopped so dramaticaly.
And if they'd ever be confronted about the quality of their code, they'd probably say they wrote it like that to make it harder to crack
Even if the game ends up being cracked again (and that veeeeery unlikely), it won't be playable anyways.Hey so uhhh anyone know which version of Denuvo this game uses becauseYou must be registered to see the links...if it's V18 we may be onto something. But for some reason I doubt it's V18 and I can't even find any docs on the versions of Denuvo.
Came here because of that videothis is not good news for cuck helius
could be the end of this game
While I understand there's benefits to having multiple layers of security, the fact that they're paying for Denuvo at all tells me their server dependence claims are likely bullshit. Helius shifted resources to make it online-only as an anti-piracy measure and paid for a Denuvo license to do the same? Not even AAA publishers do this.Even if the game ends up being cracked again (and that veeeeery unlikely), it won't be playable anyways.
In an older conversation, helius infered that playing a near fully functional cracked version was possible because most of the game's systems were run locally on the player's computer.
With the rebuild, they supposedly removed most of them to make it unplayable on a cracked version
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In a nutshell, unless you manage to both crack denuvo AND develop a dummy-plug that will emulate the game's original server (a lot of work developping it + analyzing/documenting the network traffic with a legit copy).
Though, developping the dummy-plug could still be doable if the current network stack they use now is similar to what's available here :
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(i guess this guy is one or the dev responsible with the networking code of the game)
Also, you can also decrypt the game's AES key and use UEViewer to export the game's models and animations. And then open them in blender to do whatever you want with them
I agree.im thinking they need to make a rule on pateon or subscribestar whatever that they need to post a clear quarter year report for everyone they have done, just a simple report every 3months so people can look into it would solve a big problem
and if its wrong or misleading just shut down their page
but that wont happen because them funding sites would miss money
*in a beta stress test shipped to unpaid testers*, actuallyI still think the videos are worse though. Unlicensed copyrighted materials sitting in an application being shipped to end users, that's an oof and a half.
Wow going by the last part, getting our animation viewer back wouldn't be hard at all.Even if the game ends up being cracked again (and that veeeeery unlikely), it won't be playable anyways.
In an older conversation, helius infered that playing a near fully functional cracked version was possible because most of the game's systems were run locally on the player's computer.
With the rebuild, they supposedly removed most of them to make it unplayable on a cracked version
View attachment 2625924
In a nutshell, unless you manage to both crack denuvo AND develop a dummy-plug that will emulate the game's original server (a lot of work developping it + analyzing/documenting the network traffic with a legit copy).
Though, developping the dummy-plug could still be doable if the current network stack they use now is similar to what's available here :
You must be registered to see the links
(i guess this guy is one or the dev responsible with the networking code of the game)
Also, you can also decrypt the game's AES key and use UEViewer to export the game's models and animations. And then open them in blender to do whatever you want with them
Yea it will never work properly. And even if it does it's going to run very poorly in comparison.Aren't the server hamster already failing to handle login requests? They want to handle all the graphics on the server also? Or your boi Helius talking BS again?
In regard to that last comment they definitely changed quite a bit. The old 0.4.9 build was so bad it was using rest to update player positions over http and basically everything was client side anyway, but when the new update dropped and didn't work I was monitoring it with wireshark and it is now constantly communicating with the server.And about the whole moved everything to the server part - I highly doubt that's been done in a way that can't be fooled, judging by how poor their work quality has proven.
Why do you want to open that file?It is giving me this error when i try to open Paralogue-Win64-Shipping.exe
Window Security
! These files can't be opened
Your Internet security settings prevented one or more files from being opened
I have tried disabling some security options but it still doesn't work. Anyone know how to fix this?
It's OK, you're disqualified on text comprehension grounds anyway.bruh I'd hop on but I've never worked in anything besides web dev so it would probably be better to hire a chipmunk on a nuts salary than me
Son of a thousand throbbing cocks up my ass, man...
Instead of UModel and blender I'd recommend using UE5 (and joining my awesome team)Also, you can also decrypt the game's AES key and use UEViewer to export the game's models and animations. And then open them in blender to do whatever you want with them