Ren'Py Abandoned False Hero [v0.39.1 Beta] [Enyo Eerie]

[cxx]

Last time I play 0.18, but now from 0.30 , its like nothing really add, and some event is missing to, like in the kitchen with melanie. honestly its not worth the time for waiting to much.

there is some in kitchen with mel but not as long as it was in 0.21.

 

[母娘蜜猟]

So, guys. Here is the big one:

I just want to explain why I did what I did. If someone will understand, I'd be glad. If not, it's perfectly okay too.

I started False Hero because I wanted to create the game I'd like to play. Heavy corruption, dark vibes. This is what I liked at the moment. But right now I just don't want to play games like that anymore. That's why I removed it.

I removed it not because I wanted to change Melanie's personality, to please someone else's tastes etc. Just because I didn't like it anymore. I can't create things I don't like.

(Important to say that I don't like how sebastien blackmails melanie not the fetish in general)





In this regard the game was better, I must agree. I also liked the vibe it had. But I have to sacrifice it for the sake of all other events that I plan at school. And most importantly for Melanie/Tiffany and Melanie/Tiffany/Sebastien content, which is the most important thing for me. With blackmail all the things I have planned just didn't work. Good mom will never trust her daughter to a man who is blackmailing her. With blackmail we would never see any Melanie/Tiffany/Sebastien scenes. Only if it would be some crazy mind break of Melanie OR Sebastien would start to blackmail both of the girls. It would be too painful I think.

I agree about this too: "Now that Melanie is willingly participating from the beginning kills part of the thrill (for me"
The game became much simpler in terms of tension etc. Although, you need to notice that it became better in all other aspects. I definitely lose smth. from the previous versions. And it's inevitable when you're redoing something. But my opinion about dark content has changed. In my opinion, the previous content was too painful. I don't know how you feel about it, but as a creator it wasn't an enjoyment for me. Believe me, guys if I'd continue to do as dark as I wanted it to be, this story would be the saddest shit you're ever read. It was only the beginning. Metamorphosis by Shindol would be a child play in comparison to me.

Now to BigDaddyDom.
I'm not disappointed. I didn't like the blackmail of Sebastien. (He acted too much like a dick.) I decided to remove it. DO NOT WORRY! The main quality of my game is corruption and it will never go away. I just improved the pace of it. Corruption is not only about blackmail, rape or other stuff for me. If the girl is interested in you it doesn't immediately make her a slut, it doesn't mean that she can't be corrupted further.

Also most of the corruption content I planned for Melanie in school. Mel's house content is only a warm up. With Lucy there will be a huge corruption part in her actress career. For me right now it's not important when mc won the hearts of the girls. It is more important what he is going to do next.

I didn't like the boring, grindy, and slow start of both Lucy and Melanie's routes, so I changed that.

“Enyo, you've said that you would focus solely on new content many times already... Your game already has the least amount of lewd content of any that I've seen... ”

Yes. I overestimated my capabilities.


"What happened to Lois becoming a new patient? That was another hot idea you teased in the last version of the game. You keep coming up with these great original ideas, and then inexplicably change them."

Yes. I didn't like it either. I haven't been able to get her storyline into False Hero, so I decided to hide her for now.

P.S. Let's be honest, guys. The personality of Melanie or Lucy didn't change. I wrote these characters and I know how they react and what they will do. Melanie was always like that as well as Lucy. The only thing that changed are circumstances in which I put the characters in order to make a story faster. Twins and Tiffany didn't change for sure. All this discussion started because:

1) I dropped this update with a lot of changes out of nowhere. Didn't warn you about any changes, didn't prepare you for it, didn't share a difficult process that the game was undergoing. Reading all your comments, I understand that I made a big mistake by not sharing with you, guys, my complaints.

I was too sure that what I do is better and you will immediately feel it, despite all other great things that my previous versions had. But this is my job as a patreon developer not only to create a game but communicate with the community. And I did a poor job with that.

2) You liked the dark vibe, especially blackmail. I removed it. It's sad. I'm really sad too and also angry with myself that I can't be consistent. And sometimes I wonder. What the fuck?

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Where are my balls now? But nothing I can do. I have changed.

Just promise to us that you're going to make the Mel/Tif story becomes the biggest boom. And the Twins follows up secondly.

 

[cxx]

Just promise to us that you're going to make the Mel/Tif story becomes the biggest boom. And the Twins follows up secondly.

no lucy? or jane?

 

[JB08]

Only the twins matter to me. Would be nice to have two routes, evil dementor corruption and good guy route

 

[prpa]

I like all of them, except Lucy, dont care about her.

 

[Swordsman83]

Ok, so you intentionally changed the entire vibe of your game, and you're not changing it back.

It's your game, and you can do what you want, put please don't say that the characters didn't change...when the MC acts and makes decision in a completely different way for a completely different purpose and the female characters react in completely different ways, then YES their characters DID change.

I get it and respect the fact that "you have changed" and are no longer interested in the dark storylines (how does somebody's interests change that much so fast??)...but you built and advertised your game based on that, and attracted many of your supporters based on that.

I'm really glad I waited to become a patron for your game because I would be so pissed to have paid for 2.5 years for a dark corruption game only to have it changed to something completely different. Your game to do with as you please, but stop selling it as a corruption game when the MC is getting manipulated more than the LI's themselves!

as always "vote" with wallet. ok im gonna give this game another go despite the drastic changes.

 

[Jstforme]

I'm with many others here, disappointed in the change of tone with the game. If I had to guess, the Dev had one or two very vocal/persuasive PC/feminist Patreons, that convinced him that he needed to make the women in the game stronger/confident characters, and the MC needed to be less of a dominating/manipulative mastermind, corrupting his targets to his whims. The game still sort of has that tone, but it's more understated now.

 

[neodtst]

So its the game always going for a complete makeover every time the developer have a change in heart? This already happen a few times already.
I am all for developer doing what he/she likes but not if the developer have a change of taste every 2-3 version and remake the entire game and theme again. I was under the impression that the developer just want to improve the game for all the revamps. But seem like the explanation given for all the is remakes "I don't like this anymore... i like that now".
So in another 2-3 version, we can expect another new remake?
I rem giving an excellent review to this game when it first came out 2 years ago. Think age is really catching up with me =(
Characters personality roulette remake ,characters suddenly gone .Next remake maybe back again. Nothing seem to be moving forward.
The game is like getting stuck in a bad groundhog day loop.

 

[BigDaddyDom]

Only the twins matter to me. Would be nice to have two routes, evil dementor corruption and good guy route

That is what Enyo originally promised, but who knows now

I like all of them, except Lucy, dont care about her.

Agree, she seems to be the least interesting character to most (at least on this board), yet Enyo has spent the most time recently on her

I'm with many others here, disappointed in the change of tone with the game. If I had to guess, the Dev had one or two very vocal/persuasive PC/feminist Patreons, that convinced him that he needed to make the women in the game stronger/confident characters, and the MC needed to be less of a dominating/manipulative mastermind, corrupting his targets to his whims. The game still sort of has that tone, but it's more understated now.

Exactly what I think happened! I've seen a few of those people, they are the same ones encouraging Enyo to SLOW DOWN If those people wanted the game to be completely different than what it as, then they should play a different game...can't believe Enyo actually listened to them, really dumb in my opinion. You do what was working and made your game liked.

So its the game always going for a complete makeover every time the developer have a change in heart? This already happen a few times already.
I am all for developer doing what he/she likes but not if the developer have a change of taste every 2-3 version and remake the entire game and theme again. I was under the impression that the developer just want to improve the game for all the revamps. But seem like the explanation given for all the is remakes "I don't like this anymore... i like that now".
So in another 2-3 version, we can expect another new remake?
I rem giving an excellent review to this game when it first came out 2 years ago. Think age is really catching up with me =(
Characters personality roulette remake ,characters suddenly gone .Next remake maybe back again. Nothing seem to be moving forward.
The game is like getting stuck in a bad groundhog day loop.

You said this right on, how can you completely overhaul your game every few months and not expect people to get annoyed after they've been invested in it. Especially after the dev specifically says he won't change certain things. Sounds bipolar to me

 

[Mmarsh]

Keeping the change of storylines aside, what is more annoying is the fact that even after more than two years we are at the start only.
Lucy story had actually progressed on the love path but now back to nothing. Mel is still at home, (I thought in this update it will be about shave and school). Jane, Twin I don't care. Only Tiff had some kind of progression.
Last update actually took seven months. So if we by this estimate, don't know in how many years this game will end?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

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Well, if that was the original idea for the ending then I'm really glad you've changed your mind because that would have been brutal, and honestly, I think would have caught a lot of hate for that, way more than DPC got for the ending of Acting Lessons.

Also, if I could just add, a lot of the render files from the previous version still exist in this version so you might want to think about taking them out as there are those out there who Unren the game to identify what scenes they still have to unlock and having these renders in there is likely to cause some confusion.

 

[Cazzo_duro]

A very dark and sad story, as initially envisioned by the developer, would have certainly been quite original and interesting from an artistic prospective. The games with such content are very rare and this game would have been definitely appreciated by players who don't seek a simple fap, but mostly an engaging and profound, albeit dramatic, story.

 

[Swordsman83]

Keeping the change of storylines aside, what is more annoying is the fact that even after more than two years we are at the start only.
Lucy story had actually progressed on the love path but now back to nothing. Mel is still at home, (I thought in this update it will be about shave and school). Jane, Twin I don't care. Only Tiff had some kind of progression.
Last update actually took seven months. So if we by this estimate, don't know in how many years this game will end?

at the rate its going maybe 2025.

 

[Mad Max: Creampie]

As of beta 0.25, some scenes in the Melanie 's kitchen don't work, hopefully 0.3 will fix that

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

Out of the 38 games I have reviewed, this was one of only four games I gave a 5 star rating. That was in January and perhaps premature considering the low amount of content, but I loved what was there so much that I could have stood behind that rating even if the game was abandoned. What I couldn't have foreseen was the dev reworking the entire game and taking out or changing many of the elements that appealed to me. Especially the complete revision of Melanie's character and her relationship with the MC is just depressing to me. I'm sure it can still be a good game for others, but it's not the same game I fell in love with anymore.

 

[Belnick]

i wish the gallery mod was active, i have no strength of replaying everything from scratch and the gallery mod stopped before any fuck scenes(0.25)

 

[Johnysilver771]

show some screens porn with milf

 

[Alfius]

OK, I just started this game again....and I'm fucking confused.

For the love of.... ! I can't take it anymore. I absolutely love the character models. I love the story (All of the variations was pretty good), but please for the love of everything good about gaming, don't restart the story again or change the characters.

You grow attached to characters, but every time the game is restarted, the characters changes slightly. so I need to bond with the characters again. It's like the characters becomes blurry, and I'm not sure who is the true Lucy or Melanie anymore.

I will play this update again and try to see this characters as the final take on them, but I do not think I can take another adjustment of the characters with another restart. It's taking me out of the game. I'm starting to feel less sympathetic to them, they start to become more and more just pretty CGI images and less fully fledged characters that I care about.

Don't misunderstand me. I love the characters in the game, and every time I played the game, I fall in love with them again. But with every iteration, the story just becomes more distant, like groundhog day Deja-vu. The story is not worse, but because it's the same characters in slightly different take on a similar story, they start feeling less real.

Apologies for my rant, I just feel I had to get it of my chest. I feel that this game could be one of the best games on the site, but it needs to move forward instead of constantly changing. It's because it's so (potentially)good, that I'm making such a fuss.

In any case, enough said, my next post will be about content in the game and not the Dev decisions.

 

[Alfius]

So, guys. Here is the big one:

I just want to explain why I did what I did. If someone will understand, I'd be glad. If not, it's perfectly okay too.

I started False Hero because I wanted to create the game I'd like to play. Heavy corruption, dark vibes. This is what I liked at the moment. But right now I just don't want to play games like that anymore. That's why I removed it.

I removed it not because I wanted to change Melanie's personality, to please someone else's tastes etc. Just because I didn't like it anymore. I can't create things I don't like.

(Important to say that I don't like how sebastien blackmails melanie not the fetish in general)





In this regard the game was better, I must agree. I also liked the vibe it had. But I have to sacrifice it for the sake of all other events that I plan at school. And most importantly for Melanie/Tiffany and Melanie/Tiffany/Sebastien content, which is the most important thing for me. With blackmail all the things I have planned just didn't work. Good mom will never trust her daughter to a man who is blackmailing her. With blackmail we would never see any Melanie/Tiffany/Sebastien scenes. Only if it would be some crazy mind break of Melanie OR Sebastien would start to blackmail both of the girls. It would be too painful I think.

I agree about this too: "Now that Melanie is willingly participating from the beginning kills part of the thrill (for me"
The game became much simpler in terms of tension etc. Although, you need to notice that it became better in all other aspects. I definitely lose smth. from the previous versions. And it's inevitable when you're redoing something. But my opinion about dark content has changed. In my opinion, the previous content was too painful. I don't know how you feel about it, but as a creator it wasn't an enjoyment for me. Believe me, guys if I'd continue to do as dark as I wanted it to be, this story would be the saddest shit you're ever read. It was only the beginning. Metamorphosis by Shindol would be a child play in comparison to me.

Now to BigDaddyDom.
I'm not disappointed. I didn't like the blackmail of Sebastien. (He acted too much like a dick.) I decided to remove it. DO NOT WORRY! The main quality of my game is corruption and it will never go away. I just improved the pace of it. Corruption is not only about blackmail, rape or other stuff for me. If the girl is interested in you it doesn't immediately make her a slut, it doesn't mean that she can't be corrupted further.

Also most of the corruption content I planned for Melanie in school. Mel's house content is only a warm up. With Lucy there will be a huge corruption part in her actress career. For me right now it's not important when mc won the hearts of the girls. It is more important what he is going to do next.

I didn't like the boring, grindy, and slow start of both Lucy and Melanie's routes, so I changed that.

“Enyo, you've said that you would focus solely on new content many times already... Your game already has the least amount of lewd content of any that I've seen... ”

Yes. I overestimated my capabilities.


"What happened to Lois becoming a new patient? That was another hot idea you teased in the last version of the game. You keep coming up with these great original ideas, and then inexplicably change them."

Yes. I didn't like it either. I haven't been able to get her storyline into False Hero, so I decided to hide her for now.

P.S. Let's be honest, guys. The personality of Melanie or Lucy didn't change. I wrote these characters and I know how they react and what they will do. Melanie was always like that as well as Lucy. The only thing that changed are circumstances in which I put the characters in order to make a story faster. Twins and Tiffany didn't change for sure. All this discussion started because:

1) I dropped this update with a lot of changes out of nowhere. Didn't warn you about any changes, didn't prepare you for it, didn't share a difficult process that the game was undergoing. Reading all your comments, I understand that I made a big mistake by not sharing with you, guys, my complaints.

I was too sure that what I do is better and you will immediately feel it, despite all other great things that my previous versions had. But this is my job as a patreon developer not only to create a game but communicate with the community. And I did a poor job with that.

2) You liked the dark vibe, especially blackmail. I removed it. It's sad. I'm really sad too and also angry with myself that I can't be consistent. And sometimes I wonder. What the fuck?

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Where are my balls now? But nothing I can do. I have changed.

OK After reading this, I feel better.

You have some awesome characters here. I agree with you regarding Sebastian's blackmail, was not keen on that either, but thought it would become like a Stockholm syndrome, where Melany would fall in love with her blackmailer...

I like your new approach, but please don't change the story again. I will hold you to your pinkie promise!

Love the game. Good luck!

 

[Cabin Fever]

Yes, thank you for noticing it. I forgot to insert the text I prepared for this moment into the code (((

Another inconsistency is Seb telling different girls that he lost his virginity at different ages.