Ren'Py Abandoned False Hero [v0.39.1 Beta] [Enyo Eerie]

[Naxer]

Well, I really enjoyed this game so far. The girls are gorgeous indeed, and the writing is really good. Also, the lewd scenes are steamy hot. But man, all girls are soo damn sweet that is really, really hard for me pursuing a corrupting route with them hahaha

 

[Lotex]

So you have to make a game based on what people (half of them who don't even support you) think. Nice logic.

As I said you don't have to, but that's normally how business works in case you haven't noticed. If you go to shop a to buy some steaks, but they only have chicken you'll probably go to shop b to get what you want.

 

[KomaFNinetyFive]

Well, I really enjoyed this game so far. The girls are gorgeous indeed, and the writing is really good. Also, the lewd scenes are steamy hot. But man, all girls are soo damn sweet that is really, really hard for me pursuing a corrupting route with them hahaha

Haha I just played this too, and I just want to protect instead of corrupt!

 

[Sabɘ]

As I said you don't have to, but that's normally how business works in case you haven't noticed. If you go to shop a to buy some steaks, but they only have chicken you'll probably go to shop b to get what you want.

Yeah, with the little difference that the example you just made has nothing to do with an individual game project perceived as a hobby. Driven by his will and availability.
Im not trying to attack you or something like that, but your views about this topic are the complete opposite as how a single guy should see his amateur game project. You are applying a business model to something that only has to do with art and Enyo developing his path as a free time developer.

 

[Lotex]

That's because it becomes a business as soon as you take money for it. You may argue all you want about how Patreon is based on donations and you basically give (not pay) someone money to follow their dreams and ambitions, but let's be real: Most people won't do that just because of the goodness in their hearts, especially not in times of Covid and such. The difference in wording may hold up in a court case, but as a dev you're basically paid to deliver something.

 

[quorkboy]

As I said you don't have to, but that's normally how business works in case you haven't noticed. If you go to shop a to buy some steaks, but they only have chicken you'll probably go to shop b to get what you want.

That's not at all how business works.

Real world example: I used to** frequent a shop which specialised in beef products. If someone came in wanting chicken or turkey they would say, sorry, we don't sell those. Yes, those people would go elsewhere. But the shop specialised in beef products nonetheless. Because pandering to the whims of customers when you already have something people want doesn't make your business better. If everyone does that then what you get are a bunch of businesses competing in exactly the same market with generic products, making it even more difficult to get someone to support you over anyone else. Or businesses which constantly change what they do to satisfy the whims of every person who walks through the door with a different idea of what that business should be (a quick route to failure.)

The majority of successful businesses, outside of supermarkets and cafés (which operate in a different market to most businesses,) are successful because they've chosen to be a particular type of business and work to do it well.

** I no longer go there only because I have moved too far away.

 

[Lotex]

If everyone does that then what you get are a bunch of businesses competing in exactly the same market with generic products, making it even more difficult to get someone to support you over anyone else.

That's basically what most discounters do where I live. The products have different brands, but for the most part they have like 50% or more of the same stuff.
I also didn't say anything about pandering or changing things on a whim just because somebody demanded something, but saying something like (and to stay on the topic of smutty games) "Hey guys, I offer dom/sub stuff and feet" for like 2 or 3 updates and then studdenly overhaul everything and go with vanilla and love doesn't fly for most people, that's not why they supported you in the first place. It's ok to say "Look, you have your kinks and that's ok, but that's not what I'll provide here, so either deal with it or move along", but from what I've gathered that's not what happened here. Sure the dev (and every other dev really) can change their mind about games, but then you can't be surprised if you get criticized for it.

 

[quorkboy]

That's basically what most discounters do where I live. The products have different brands, but for the most part they have like 50% or more of the same stuff.
I also didn't say anything about pandering or changing things on a whim just because somebody demanded something, but saying something like (and to stay on the topic of smutty games) "Hey guys, I offer dom/sub stuff and feet" for like 2 or 3 updates and then studdenly overhaul everything and go with vanilla and love doesn't fly for most people, that's not why they supported you in the first place. It's ok to say "Look, you have your kinks and that's ok, but that's not what I'll provide here, so either deal with it or move along", but from what I've gathered that's not what happened here. Sure the dev (and every other dev really) can change their mind about games, but then you can't be surprised if you get criticized for it.

Already been said that I think it's fair to criticise provided it's done in a constructive manner.

But what you've written here does not fit with the previous post to which I replied. You replied to "So you have to make a game based on what people (half of them who don't even support you) think" with "that's normally how business works."

What you've written here contradicts that. It's possible that what you wrote this time more properly reflects your position and the previous post was poorly worded - or at least I misinterpreted. I fully agree that a developer should have a vision and stick to it. I also believe they should be open to criticism and change where it reinforces their vision and makes it better in the developer's opinion as well as that of the players.

All I was arguing for was "let's give this version a chance as the developer has given solid reasons for the most recent change." (While it sounded like previous changes, assuming they aren't being exaggerated which I can't speak to, not having been here for them, were more arbitrary or at least not well explained.) If they fail to stick to this version of their vision and keep changing it I'll be on your side.

 

[harloch74]

Thanks four update

 

[xXlotus0]

Font too small.

 

[number361]

I'm a tad confused now, I remember playing this a while ago in August...but since nothing has been changed? Huh? The same scenes and whatnot. Did I miss something? I mainly played the Twins and Jane.

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Anyway, I await the next major update for this. I wish it would be a tad faster though, but I can understand this takes time. Love the slow teasing though.
I wonder if the developer introduces new ideas like the girl sending nude photos to you after you reach a certain affection level.

 

[MenmaYu]

That lighting and graphics though.

 

[401Grem]

As I said you don't have to, but that's normally how business works in case you haven't noticed. If you go to shop a to buy some steaks, but they only have chicken you'll probably go to shop b to get what you want.

But here is like getting the meat free from the internet, and never buying from store a or b, then acting like you are somehow benefiting the rancher and the stores he sells to, while also believing that you are entitled to complain about the quality and quantity of the free meat, that you didn't buy from his vendors?

 

[Lotex]

Giving your opinion is not complaining, but I guess that's something a lot of people will never understand. Complaining would be going to the dev directly and asking him why he doesn't cater to my needs

 

[401Grem]

Giving your opinion is not complaining, but I guess that's something a lot of people will never understand. Complaining would be going to the dev directly and asking him why he doesn't cater to my needs

Interesting choice of words, not desires, NEEDS, a sense of entitlement.

 

[Lotex]

Yep, the one guy who put the game on the watch list and hasn'T really played it because it's not for him is totally entitled.

 

[SomeGent]

What all can I say for now is that, I am looking forward for the next update, I thought the current update would add some new game content, but it's just rework of everything, but still I am looking foward for the next update...

 

[wiglaf2000]

I can't wait to start this gave over again. Here's to some new surprises!

 

[Lancer73]

looks good

 

[Anonymouse71]

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