Enyo_

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It's probably harder to write a good story, to get a "good flow", through collection of smaller, disconnected stories, like in this case. Probably/possibly, the reason Enyo backtracks a lot. There is no real "grind" here, but this game would be far better of as more linear VN.
I'd make Melanie a central part ( far more depth, build up, background, dynamic than others), "spine" of the narrative, and work on progress with others, in between.
So you slowly detach her from her husband/marriage, she falls for Sebastian, moves in with him, etc. And in between, you have smaller epizodes with Lucy ( her career, and slowly becoming jealous, obsessed with MC), Jane, Tiffany and twins ( corruption/love story).
Then, near the end, depending on your choices, you get more branching narrative ( single girl, harem, etc).

Yep, I agree that linear Vn would be 10 times easier to do.
And as you said, Melanie's part was central path of the game and the rest characters were kinda additional character.
But when I started to make this game, I developed the characters so deep and good that I couldn't just leave them additional. So I decided to make well developed story for each character. Also, the biggest reason why I didn't do VN was because I really like "games" where you can explore and stuff, and not just only make choices. Unfortunately, I didn't implement it well yet.
 

Enyo_

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I would bet a patreon sub to this dev, the whole reason he is answering now instead of earlier is because he was busy developing his game and crunching for release. Now he has a little time to answer questions with the release out and check for unfound bugs his testers may have missed. :unsure: Nah, that makes too much sense.
Yep, that sound too reasonable. There has to be some catch in here. :unsure:
 
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Enyo_

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Not even gonna bother downloading...the content till now was disappointing, almost non existent. I remember there being 5 or so events for the 1 chick who's crashing in the MC's appartment, every one about watching her in the bathroom with minor differences, for examplem someting like: 1st watching her with clothes on, 2nd her taking her shirt off, 3rd she turns around,...). That's on a whole other level than the games that similarly progress: teasing, handjob, blowjob, sex, anal...
Yep, you're right, this is what I'm doing.
And this is exactly what I don't like in the games that has similar progress: "teasing, handjob, blowjob, sex, anal." and this is what I'm trying to avoid.:geek:
 

KingFap

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i played lucy side completely but i couldn't get these scenes. am i missing something.
Or do these scenes appear with NTR turned on?
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The ArcKnight

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I am always super conflicted about this game.

On the one hand, it has some excellent slow corruption and gorgeous character models with accompanying in-depth characters to grow attached to as well as a gorgeous subby secretary in lovely pantyhose.

On the other hand, I cannot just murder the Cafe manager to make sure he stays the fuck away from my twins.

But in all seriousness, I appreciate that Enyo is back.
There is something to be said here for your comments that do worry me Enyo; the fact that once sex happens you quickly lose interest in the porn's plot. You are missing out on the most important aspect of the game if that is the case, its not about just teasing that slow, naïve corruption, its about building those relationships and strengthening them.

We have Jane as an example, she's had sex with MC, does that mean she's going to fall off the face of the earth to focus on other characters because Sebastian has already had her? Or will we get to see our MC able to bring her more under his control, whether in a loving way, or a pure corrupting way. I mean fuck, you have a hot submissive secretary working for you, I can think of at least a couple of ways to make that hot story wise, from more training and using toys at work to having Jane meet any of the other characters..

How much could someone like Kate and Ashley come to look up to this seemingly kind, stunning, and friendly older girl with her refined looks, adult job, and relative cultured appearance being an attractive college student living a life two orphans could only dream of? Given their personalizes, I could easily see all three of them growing rather attached to each other.
How shocked would the twins be to find their role model Jane serving her Master in MC's office during a "Surprise visit" and how much could that warp their little worlds seeing this "elder sister" type debase herself so...?

There are SO many things you can do with this set up, don't be afraid to push some characters forward, you still have others at varying levels of corruption/submission.
 
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doe50818

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It sounds to me like you didn't actually play the content of the latest version at all. There is no new Tiffany content in the latest release. Also, the Twins scene that you mentioned is very much playable in this release.
Tiffany's storyline repeated with my latest save as evidenced by my skip button working, without me having skip unseen text enabled. I've got all six anime scenes. Never seen Kate flashing Ashley. What are you so confused about regarding my comment?!

I'm more and more inclined to wait with everything until the game is done. I must have played over 350 VNs by now, but I don't remember a single one that is continually being rewritten every time there's a new update.

Most of the developer's time is wasted on reworking the script all the time, and then you have four times less images than you'd need, because the scene keeps progressing in text, with the characters doing this and that only in text, while the same few images are being displayed forever. The pictures don't show the story progression, they are just illustrations of a few moments. With how rarely the pictures change to depict what's actually going on, you could almost call this game text-based. Which is quite insane with a file size of over six gigabytes for the compressed archive...
 
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Anyone have an image dump for the update? I only have an iPad these days so no way to play and there doesn’t seem to be any play through on any websites available.
 

Parmenion1405

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hmm i completed the Melanie Story line but i cannot visit her house anymore. Maybe the Dev schould add a warning that if you start this event be sure that there no other story parts you have not done yet, cos i cannot progress with tiffy or is there a later trigger for the tiffy events?
 

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Tiffany's storyline repeated with my latest save as evidenced by my skip button working, without me having skip unseen text enabled. I've got all six anime scenes. Never seen Kate flashing Ashley. What are you so confused about regarding my comment?!

I'm more and more inclined to wait with everything until the game is done. I must have played over 350 VNs by now, but I don't remember a single one that is continually being rewritten every time there's a new update.

Most of the developer's time is wasted on reworking the script all the time, and then you have four times less images than you'd need, because the scene keeps progressing in text, with the characters doing this and that only in text, while the same few images are being displayed forever. The pictures don't show the story progression, they are just illustrations of a few moments. With how rarely the pictures change to depict what's actually going on, you could almost call this game text-based. Which is quite insane with a file size of over six gigabytes for the compressed archive...
Well, there was no new Tiffany content at all, so why even mention it?

Also, like I said earlier, the Kate flashing Ashley scene, it's very much playable in this release. If you didn't get to that it means you didn't finish all the new contents.

What are you so confused about regarding my comment?!

Really? is this the walktrough we have available?
I think I found the full Walkthrough
if you want you can have a look at this

Neither contains the newest 0.37 info. For that, go to OP and look for the Twins Guide.
 

serdtfyu

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Enyo_ I think i'm speaking for a lot of the games players when I say you need more Lucy content. She seems to me like the perfect character to build the main story around - she lives with you after all. But besides that her model and the personality you have given her makes her by far the best character in the game, up there with the best female characters in any games I have played. So Basically, add ALOT more Lucy content, period.
 

junoj

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Enyo, keep doing your thing. The fact that some people are trying to rescue YOUR characters from YOUR game means you are doing something right haha. I can understand the frustration sometimes, but still enjoying it immensely.
 
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oceanbobo4

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I have a question. I'm a new player, just found this game a week ago.

So . . . I see that the developer says that the MC can have only one girl. This puzzles me a bit.

Does that mean I should ignore the others and not see their content? Does this mean that if I pursue a couple girls, then they learn about one another and I reach a bad ending?

At first, I was "playing the field" and meeting all the girls and seeing what would happen and finding who I like best. I've decided that I like Jane and Tiffany best. But . . . I also like Lucy and she's very convenient because in my apartment. Am I supposed to resist temptation, otherwise bad ending?

When you focus on only one girl, you lose the sandbox free roam feel of the game. Is that the optimal strategy? Is this how the game is meant to be played? You look around at first, then pursue only one and ignore the others, at which point the sandbox effectively becomes a visual novel focused on only one girl.
 
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