lumley

Member
Aug 28, 2017
325
383
Riper676 What behaviour... He just said to u that he only making VNs to earn money, lol. The most honest answer u can get from these VN makers. 85% VNs on the website are unfinished slops anyway, thats the norm around here
 

Yazros

Member
Mar 2, 2018
205
397
Well you heard them. They only do things that make them money. They have no interest in giving good endings. Rush the end to move on to the next cash cow.
And that was also disappointing and kind of shitty to read. I would like to think that it was said out of frustration, but unless they say something about it and start to make a change, it's a strong case to not financially support them in the future. If they're just going to focus on quickly rushing games to the end so they can move on to the next one, I find that a huge waste of talent. In any case, I think whoever is posting for Whiteleaf Studio on here has damaged a lot of the good will people had for them.
 

harem.king

Engaged Member
Aug 16, 2023
2,909
4,912
Well you heard them. They only do things that make them money. They have no interest in giving good endings. Rush the end to move on to the next cash cow.
Which ironically is not the ideal way to make profits.
steve-jobs-6568.jpg

that being said... "few people were interested in our product so we scrapped it to work on a better product" is in a way focusing on making a better product.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: billyjoebobmartin

Whiteleaf Studio

Active Member
Game Developer
Oct 20, 2019
520
1,905
Well you heard them. They only do things that make them money. They have no interest in giving good endings. Rush the end to move on to the next cash cow.
I mean, you must be pretty young if you can afford to do things that don't bring you money.
I have a family to feed, I can't afford to do stuff that won't bring me any cash just out of pure "love for porn games". Sorry about that.

Also,
damn this devs surely enjoy having a b!tch behavior
I'm just brutally honest, you can like it or not.

And that was also disappointing and kind of shitty to read. I would like to think that it was said out of frustration, but unless they say something about it and start to make a change, it's a strong case to not financially support them in the future. If they're just going to focus on quickly rushing games to the end so they can move on to the next one, I find that a huge waste of talent. In any case, I think whoever is posting for Whiteleaf Studio on here has damaged a lot of the good will people had for them.
You're confusing things here. We only doing projects that bring us money but that has no relation to your view of us "quickly rushing games". I only said that we won't keep projects that are not financially viable, we we'll remake them into something more popular. The whole "rushing" things is just your opinion. To me the game is complete, a solid jerk off game as intended. We never intended to be anything else. Drop your expectations of us. It is what it is.
 

Cheesecake

Newbie
Jul 4, 2017
28
70
You're confusing things here. We only doing projects that bring us money but that has no relation to your view of us "quickly rushing games". I only said that we won't keep projects that are not financially viable, we we'll remake them into something more popular. The whole "rushing" things is just your opinion. To me the game is complete, a solid jerk off game as intended. We never intended to be anything else. Drop your expectations of us. It is what it is.
The funny thing about this 'We are only doing projects that bring us money' is the following:
=> If you don't make quality games, they won't bring you money.
=> If you scrap the projects BEFORE the people get invested, they will never make you money.
=> If a game has great potential, people enjoy the start and then you just end the game abruptly then it has the opposite effect instead. People won't bother to invest in it OR even in the following projects before the content is guaranteed because they've been burned before.
If you don't even stand behind your own game and you just want to finish it to move onto the next, why should other people?

Following your own logic you might as well scrap all the projects you just started on, as they barely ever make any money at the start... It's such flawed logic x.X

I've played several of your games before it seems and every single one felt 'rushed'; especially the endings. There was a lot of potential to work with every time. You could have built on the story in so many ways and did so many things with the games to make them into something amazing. Games that would have given a lasting impression, that would have been talked about a lot. That would have made people look forward to the next game you guys made. But instead you settled for mediocrity and the short term. You let down all the players each time by wasting all that potential. They want to like the game, you just don't allow them to. THAT is what people are annoyed with and are complaining about.

P.S. I barely ever comment, but I really wanted you to at least realise this.
 

KhaiFirst

Well-Known Member
Feb 27, 2021
1,139
849
The funny thing about this 'We are only doing projects that bring us money' is the following:
=> If you don't make quality games, they won't bring you money.
=> If you scrap the projects BEFORE the people get invested, they will never make you money.
=> If a game has great potential, people enjoy the start and then you just end the game abruptly then it has the opposite effect instead. People won't bother to invest in it OR even in the following projects before the content is guaranteed because they've been burned before.
If you don't even stand behind your own game and you just want to finish it to move onto the next, why should other people?

Following your own logic you might as well scrap all the projects you just started on, as they barely ever make any money at the start... It's such flawed logic x.X

I've played several of your games before it seems and every single one felt 'rushed'; especially the endings. There was a lot of potential to work with every time. You could have built on the story in so many ways and did so many things with the games to make them into something amazing. Games that would have given a lasting impression, that would have been talked about a lot. That would have made people look forward to the next game you guys made. But instead you settled for mediocrity and the short term. You let down all the players each time by wasting all that potential. They want to like the game, you just don't allow them to. THAT is what people are annoyed with and are complaining about.

P.S. I barely ever comment, but I really wanted you to at least realise this.
wow a cheese cake Yoda..
 

leve2510

New Member
Feb 22, 2024
3
0
Haven't read the entire thread so i don't know the whole story
But im jush have to ask is this game finish as in already finished or it about to be
 

IPsycho

Active Member
Oct 16, 2018
564
458
And that was also disappointing and kind of shitty to read. I would like to think that it was said out of frustration, but unless they say something about it and start to make a change, it's a strong case to not financially support them in the future. If they're just going to focus on quickly rushing games to the end so they can move on to the next one, I find that a huge waste of talent. In any case, I think whoever is posting for Whiteleaf Studio on here has damaged a lot of the good will people had for them.
Exactly, you pay into a game expecting good quality and something that will satisfy, what do you get, a watered down something with a rushed ending and a guy who says " we're in it for the profit" gives you confidence in their future ventures.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Boldano

Whiteleaf Studio

Active Member
Game Developer
Oct 20, 2019
520
1,905
The funny thing about this 'We are only doing projects that bring us money' is the following:
=> If you don't make quality games, they won't bring you money.
=> If you scrap the projects BEFORE the people get invested, they will never make you money.
=> If a game has great potential, people enjoy the start and then you just end the game abruptly then it has the opposite effect instead. People won't bother to invest in it OR even in the following projects before the content is guaranteed because they've been burned before.
If you don't even stand behind your own game and you just want to finish it to move onto the next, why should other people?

Following your own logic you might as well scrap all the projects you just started on, as they barely ever make any money at the start... It's such flawed logic x.X

I've played several of your games before it seems and every single one felt 'rushed'; especially the endings. There was a lot of potential to work with every time. You could have built on the story in so many ways and did so many things with the games to make them into something amazing. Games that would have given a lasting impression, that would have been talked about a lot. That would have made people look forward to the next game you guys made. But instead you settled for mediocrity and the short term. You let down all the players each time by wasting all that potential. They want to like the game, you just don't allow them to. THAT is what people are annoyed with and are complaining about.

P.S. I barely ever comment, but I really wanted you to at least realise this.
I will prove you wrong with one single sentence.

Tamas Awakening took more than THREE years to complete and you still said it felt "rushed".
And that was way before we started scrapping projects or even selling our games.
Let that sink in. Don't you think maybe I'm just a mediocre writer or something?

JUST ACCEPT THAT WE CREATE SHORT LINEAR MASTURBATION GAMES. That's all.
Don't look for a great story in our games and you'll be happy. There's plenty of other games with great stories out there.
 

Whiteleaf Studio

Active Member
Game Developer
Oct 20, 2019
520
1,905
Rip lol at least he was honest about $ or hasn't pulled a Ecchi Sensei...yet :ROFLMAO::LOL:
I'm always honest. This is my WORK and I have a family to feed like I said. I will create my games like I want and everyone is free to play (or not) and enjoy it (or not).

I don't get why it's so hard to just move on and play other games if our games don't suit your tastes. Everyone is so entitled, specially when they're playing the game for free.

Which is very funny to me. I receive a lot more complainings from people WHO DID NOT PAY FOR MY GAME then from then people who actually supported me.
 

melakuu

Newbie
Oct 21, 2019
18
49
I honestly think the devs are based. Being honest with your audience, even if they don't like your takes, is invaluable. Honestly, I hope you have success in the future doing your thing, the game looks pretty good.
 
  • Like
Reactions: haooni and sava75

Walter Victor

Forum Fanatic
Dec 27, 2017
5,877
20,103
I really don't understand most of the criticisms of the ending. Rushed? Unrealized potential? Ended abruptly? Everything that was set out at the beginning of the game was accomplished in detail.

The aunt specified the goals for the MC at the beginning of the game: bed all the family members and the girlfriend; get them all pregnant; reconcile all of them to being part of the MC's harem.

All of that was accomplished by the end of the last release! Provided, of course, that you didn't hit that completely unnecesesary game-over that was put in there. The final scene is everyone gathered around the dinner table, where the MC announces that he is the heir and that they are all his harem members. After some argument, this is accepted by all. This is followed by a trip to the bedroom and a gigantic orgy.

I have no idea what else people were expecting.
 
  • Like
Reactions: haooni and sava75
3.70 star(s) 19 Votes