Just because you spend a lot of time on a solo project doesn't make it a passion project. Especially if that project is earning you money. Now if he was doing fap-life and didn't have a patreon and was working on it solo, then you could say it was a passion project. If you are being paid in some fashion to do a project, its "work", even if you are doing it passionately.
Unreal Engine Abandoned Fap-Life [28-01-2019] [Likkezg]
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Is it really work when you have no deadlines when his patreons basically donate him like a tip jar and still isn't his main focus of his patreon?
If you check out his Discord, the game is barely mentioned by his core audience. This is basically a hobby with profits. The same case with Akabur, all his games are free and public, the only "bonus" you get for giving him money is getting 1-week early access to his games as gratitude for your support. He even advertises his patreon as tipping jar and strongly recommends to not give him money if you expect something.
I don't know how Likkerg handles his patreon, but it seems he is an "akabur scenario", where people pay him just to keep him doing his art.
That doesn't excuse leaving the public in the dark.
Yes, he claims to be working on something else. That's different from actually working on something else. There are plenty of people abusing the Patreon model to get easy money.
Can you still call it a passion project if you're not having fun working on it?
To be fair, that's exactly what Patreon is for. You don't give money with the intent of getting something in return. You support someone so they can keep doing what they're doing.
I have friends like you guys and they annoy the f*ck out of me. Some people just need to find something to react to and debate out of boredom. This is such a waste of time arguing about. If you can't call working on a porn game that fulfills your own fetish's and preferences a passion project then what the fuck is a passion project? What's you're arbitrary definition? You guys have said he does this mainly as a hobby with a tip jar which screams passion project not work. He's not mainstreaming the game in any way in order for it to have broad market appeal. He's probably going to release it to play for free. All screams passion project. He might not be working on it right now. Doesn't matter. just makes it a passion project on the back burner. Anyway whatever dude. Maybe you have a unique, weird definition of passion project nobody else understands that involves making statues of supermodels out of your poo. I don't care. Maybe you should message the dev and ask him if he's passionate about his projects. I would be very surprised if he says no. I'm done with this thread for now I think. Piece out.
Uhm... Why do you continue to argue if you think it's annoying?
Just because something you're making involves your own preferences (why wouldn't it, anyway), doesn't mean you're working on that project out of passion. If there was no money involved, do you think he'd work on it? Do you think it's a passion project if it doesn't even seem to be his focus?
You just pulled an argument out of thin air. I don't remember anything even hinting at this becoming free.
So do you care what their definition is or not? You definitely seem to.
Rumboy; if you think arguing over something is pointless, why did you just do it?
I find arguing over something is the best way to get information. Because you see, almost no one really uses the dictionary definition of words these days. For example, the word awesome means different things to different people; some consider a one-off, unique event to be awesome. Others use the word to mean the equivalent to "its cool". Trying to find out what people define for themselves what a word means is often difficult without arguing over stuff. Thus I find arguing to be a very efficient way of understanding the other person and their personal definitions over words.
I define a passion project as one where no one is paying you to do the work, and you working at a pace you want to, to get it done. Your incentive is to complete the project, not for monetary gain but for the sheer ability to appreciate the hard work you did to get something done. So, examples of this are:
1. Fixing up an old junker car, to a working state.
2. Building that shed to store your tools.
3. Making a small roguelike that you always wanted to make.
4. Making a short animation, to hone your animating skills.
5. Trying to grow some vegetables this year, in your small plot of land.
6. Repainting your mother's house in a two week period.
When people pay you to do the work, you can work with a passion, but I don't consider it a passion project. If you are building something for a commercial payout, it may start out as a passion project, but the moment you start making money, its no longer about just completing the project for the project's sake, but to complete it to get more money.
Likkez project is hardly a passion project. He gets paid patreon funds to work on and as is actually incentivized to drag out development, as then he will earn more money in the long-run. Much like how the dev of Meridiana / Sorceress' Tale is dragging out development, to milk Patreon.
Its been forever since his last release, and is showing no real progress in getting another playable teaser build out. He's made all sorts of animations but refuses to do a release with them, for reasons.
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I've not seen anywhere (or even when I've had personal talks with him, when Tumblr still existed) that he ever intended to release it for free.
Also if a project is on the backburner, its no longer a passion project. Someone who is doing a passion project will find the time to make it happen. If they aren't, they aren't passionate about it anymore. Plenty of people pick up junk cars to fix them up. How many of them, give up and leave a rusting car in their front yard?
I find arguing over something is the best way to get information. Because you see, almost no one really uses the dictionary definition of words these days. For example, the word awesome means different things to different people; some consider a one-off, unique event to be awesome. Others use the word to mean the equivalent to "its cool". Trying to find out what people define for themselves what a word means is often difficult without arguing over stuff. Thus I find arguing to be a very efficient way of understanding the other person and their personal definitions over words.
I define a passion project as one where no one is paying you to do the work, and you working at a pace you want to, to get it done. Your incentive is to complete the project, not for monetary gain but for the sheer ability to appreciate the hard work you did to get something done. So, examples of this are:
1. Fixing up an old junker car, to a working state.
2. Building that shed to store your tools.
3. Making a small roguelike that you always wanted to make.
4. Making a short animation, to hone your animating skills.
5. Trying to grow some vegetables this year, in your small plot of land.
6. Repainting your mother's house in a two week period.
When people pay you to do the work, you can work with a passion, but I don't consider it a passion project. If you are building something for a commercial payout, it may start out as a passion project, but the moment you start making money, its no longer about just completing the project for the project's sake, but to complete it to get more money.
Likkez project is hardly a passion project. He gets paid patreon funds to work on and as is actually incentivized to drag out development, as then he will earn more money in the long-run. Much like how the dev of Meridiana / Sorceress' Tale is dragging out development, to milk Patreon.
Its been forever since his last release, and is showing no real progress in getting another playable teaser build out. He's made all sorts of animations but refuses to do a release with them, for reasons.
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I've not seen anywhere (or even when I've had personal talks with him, when Tumblr still existed) that he ever intended to release it for free.
Also if a project is on the backburner, its no longer a passion project. Someone who is doing a passion project will find the time to make it happen. If they aren't, they aren't passionate about it anymore. Plenty of people pick up junk cars to fix them up. How many of them, give up and leave a rusting car in their front yard?
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Five months, not two years. The latest Patreon post is from August 31 2020. I don't know if there's any other updates elsewhere.
From trello progress can you say there will be update someday? Maybe this year?
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It is hard to say, there are some developers which i follow on trello and sometimes they just put a note about an update. I can't really say that about Likkezg.
I don´t know who follow his Discord Channel, but for everyone else who don´t know this: Likkezg is working on the Game and he is making it a Half-Life Parody again.
I saw some nice Bullsquid picture with an Female body on Top. It´s not Alyx at the moment, because he is Remodeling the Face.
So let´s hope we will see some nice things from him this Year!
I saw some nice Bullsquid picture with an Female body on Top. It´s not Alyx at the moment, because he is Remodeling the Face.
So let´s hope we will see some nice things from him this Year!
So guys here are the Pictures so far.
He is modeling the Headcrab this days and talking in Discord about ideas for the Game.
Hope you all likes this
He is modeling the Headcrab this days and talking in Discord about ideas for the Game.
Hope you all likes this
Great info guys! Was worried this was dead too. Glad to hear that it's back to a half-life concept too! Have there been any other progress shots since August when he last updated his patreon?
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Here Guys are some Pictures of the Headcrab model.
