Unreal Engine Abandoned Fap-Life [28-01-2019] [Likkezg]
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I'm really not sure why he decided to abandon the Alyx Vance character as the focus of the game. I mean I do understand in a sense because Likkezg makes a lot of weird shit with his own tastes in mind and goes with what he likes over what would be most popular to people who like x rated video games. He would definitely have a larger audience for this game if he stuck with Alyx Vance though in my opinion. She's not the most sought after character for video game porn but I would say she's still up there. If anything the release of Half Life Alyx would make a porn game staring her more popular not less.
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Quite the opposite, if he makes his own thing he can now actually open the game to be whatever he wants, that Quiet extra model will not be out of place because this isn't Half-Life anymore, and we know that both Alyx and Quiet will be moddable.
But the thing is, Likkerzg is truly ambitious about this game. This won't be only a 3D animator viewer, he is going to lengths to make this an actual standalone porn game with gameplay, unique mechanics (just look at that undressing physics, I literally never seen this in ANY game in my life), and original story. This isn't just a fan parody anymore, this is a game that he will be and I bet he will sell on Steam, he is making literally an IP.
Also about how doing original stuff gather more attention than fan/parody stuff. Just look at the top games here, and they all are original games (Summertime Saga, all those 3D DAZ games...). 4 elements trainer is a game that I love but I saw avatar in my life and that actually made me a distance away from the game for quite some time, when you make something original there is no niche anymore, no need to play/watch/read another thing to understand what happens.
This game can only be two things, a massive abandoned trainwreck, or literally the first AAA porn game in history and that says a lot.
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That would be Cloud Meadow or Subverse, bro. He's too damn late. That horse has bolted.
He should have stuck with Half-Life because there, he has an established universe and setting to parody - he doesn't need complex lore or framing, it's a porn parody of Half-Life, let's get raped by barnicles.
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Didn't the Subverse guys run with the money and Cloud Meadow is the result of an artist backstabbing the previous project Breeding Season?
I couldn't care less about this game being set in the Half-Life universe and I only play it because of Quiet. As I said, stuff pre-established distance new people from it. That is why you get so many new games like "DOOM" that don't title themselves as "Doom 4".
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I dunno about Subverse, but Cloud Meadow is the result of an artist jumping ship off a dead project to make his own, which regardless of your opinion on Breeding Season (as someone who was a backer), has a lot of god-damn passion in it.
You only play it because of Quiet? Of course, you don't care about the setting or really even the game, you're only here because it has a model you like. Bro, there are plenty of games that cater to you. There are no games that cater to HL fans who are horny. This ain't your scene and your take is bad.
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You don't care about the game, the moment he decided to make something original you start bitching about it, you only care about Half-Life. And like you said, there are plenty of SFM mods and games that cater to you.
I'm much more interesting now that Likkezg is doing his own thing instead of a "fan-game".
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To my knowledge, I know of no game that caters to HL fans who are horny. I do only care about Half-Life, the guy was makin' a Half-Life porn game, I think it's alright to be mad that he changed his mind half-way through.
Either way, we both have common ground in watching this project. I want him to keep sticking to the Half-life content and not be shit and you also want it to not be shit. I'll take that as 'close enough' for a porn forum.
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Agreed. At least I know that we will be able to mod the game and add custom characters (Alyx, Quiet...) so it is "close enough". As you said, I just hope he doesn't abandon the game because I really have high hopes for the potential of this. Only in the next soon(tm) demo build to know.
Also, funny that you mention your side that no one ever made an HL porn game (the closest I can think is SFM porn maps and the masterpiece Cinematic mod from FakeFactory), because in a way; There is no MGS porn game. So in a deeper way, we even feel the same.
Porn games unite people.
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This cant be AAA, because when we talk about AAA, this is game which is being developed by 50+ developers, in most cases 300+ within 5+ years
Not by a single person or maybe he have help from somebody I dont know.
I think you're really jumping the gun. I highly doubt it's going to be an AAA title. I don't know how many Dev's he's got on this but it's certainly not going to be the size of a medium company. I do agree with you that creating something unique rather than doing porn parody is probably more fulfilling from creative standpoint but it doesn't necessarily equal a better game for the consumer in my opinion. Porn and none porn game and animation are distinct. There's some artistic elements to porn animation and video game compared to live action but it's purpose is still to sexually stimulate people and that's why people will play it. Things like original story's and characters are of secondary importance to people who play porn games in my opinion. Would people rather play porn games with their favorite characters from video games and movies or would they rather play unique characters that have no reference in pop culture? I would personally think since most the stuff created by indie porn animators uses established characters from video games this what most people want. Also I'm happy for the Dev that he can make a living producing the kind of Fetish porn he enjoys but producing a game for a cult following and something for hentai fans in general is a different thing. I think the futa thing eliminates a lot of people already. I'm not complaining though. This is just my opinion on it. I think if content creators can produce what they want and make a living from it that's a good thing. However If this game is going to be Futa and exclusively about sex with monsters and robots it won't be my cup of tea.
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Did you played the build and know Likkezg work?
So let's use empiric evidence to see what appeals to people. Check out the most popular games on this site, and 9 of 10 from them are original stories with original characters. Summertime Saga literally makes over 60k USD on Patreon and that game has no existing IPs in it. In the discussion above was even mentioned Cloud Meadow and Subverse as the "AAA" type porn games in the market, and they are also original IPs.
The western porn game market is in its infancy, If wasn't for Patreon and Rempy you wouldn't see this major boom in the west but even when you look at Japan that is over 20 years doing porn games, you barely see parodies. Because parodies only work for people that know the IP, an original setting/story/characters will appeal to anyone because there is no baggage behind it. you get what you see.
Hell, a few of my favorites western porn games are parodies about properties that I literally never had an interest in it and still haven't seen. Unironically my only experience with Aladin for example is from Akabur's Princess Trainer.
Likkerg already made his niche, his patreons follow him for his specialization and pretty much all his works involve futa, large anal insertions, and sometimes monsters;
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Good luck if you are into something "niche" like VAGINAL with Likkerg.
I have played the build. I loved the Alyx and quiet model. I really liked the anal and blowjob animations. The monster sex was pretty cool but I personally would have liked some human models for her to interact with too. I think he's a good animator and I like his female models. I'm not so much into the futa stuff. I tend follow him for the none futa related work but yeah I know most of his work is pretty niche and fetishistic.
Yes you would be correct about Japanese porn games. They are mainly original titles rather than parodies but there are some hentai parody's out there. When you're talking about western hentai It's a pretty new market. I don't know of any big studios producing it. Seems to still be in the hands of indie developers as far as I can tell. There isn't really a big enough market yet to pull from to tell what would best sell but I think that if porn games and animations rivaled the adult entertainment industry parodies would do very well. Like I said Most CG porn uses character models from video games and movies and I don't see that trend changing. I think if this did become a real industry there would be copyright and licensing issues. I doubt pixar or valve would be in favor of adult film studios or game studios using their characters. In a way I guess the fact that it's mainly neckbeards with patreon accounts producing this kind of content is good. Video games were more interesting when it was a smaller industry and you can probably say the same for porn.
This is all very off topic, and I'm a hypocrite for engaging in this discussion, but what makes those AAA titles? Cloud Meadow is a buggy mess from what I can tell, and Subverse doesn't exist. And what even does it mean to be a AAA title to you? Is it just the (perceived) quality? Games like Hollow Knight aren't AAA, yet they're very high quality.
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Well the dude said first AAA game, with his understanding that it was a high-quality, large-studio producton. Subverse and Cloud Meadow both fit that bill.
Cloud Meadow is pretty functional, I don't know where you have that idea from. If you just lurk or watch Shwig, you can clearly see a lot is happening and it all works pretty well. Subverse doesn't exist yet because it's not out and I don't lurk around StudioFOW, so I have no real comment.
Either way, it doesn't really matter if it's exactly AAA for the argument, the argument he was putting across was 'He should make this the first full-scale, large development team-led, high quality porn game that is as much a game as it is porn', and my argument is that he's too late to the party to do that.
And yet we've seen next to nothing of the game part of this porn game. It's been mostly just animations and nothing more.
Why do people want porn that's also a great video game? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with wanting that but it seems weird to me. I can't imagine myself putting hundreds of hours into a porn game. As soon as you cum you're pretty much just going to want to play something that's not a porn game or do something else. Just my preference but I would say a porn game really just needs to be porn with interactive elements to it. I guess some people might want to play a version of half life where you can see Alyx getting fucked completely uncensored or a version of GTA5 where you can fuck the prostitutes in graphic detail but for me it would just make the gameplay awkward. I don't relate to any of you people who think that x rated animation and video games really need to be about anything other than sex.
Lol, I was just getting excited, because I thought a new update came out. Turns out it were just people arguing about AAA titles. Buals
Speaking of this project specifically, I want it to be a game that it says it will be. There's no gameplay whatsoever. It's just an animation viewer. Which actually can be said for a few other ambitious ero games.
The reason I would want a porn game to be a good porn game, not necessarily a great one mind you, is because what's the point otherwise. Why make a porn game when it's all about the porn and not about the gameplay? At that point you can just as easily satisfy the same crowd with a video or an interactive animation viewer. The reason I like porn games over other erotic media is their interactivity and the context given to the pornographic content.
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I know with me that I don't mind it not being an amazing video game per say. But if the porn is a chore and a half to get to, I'm not going to want to bother even viewing the porn. I also like to earn the scenes by playing the game like the creator intended instead of just grabbing a save file when someone drops it. It's a feeling of personal accomplishment.