Ren'Py Fashion Business [Ep.4 v8.00 Extra] [DecentMonkey]

[wildride69]

That's what I thought. This ep has many unfinished quest endings.
Like the fact that you face no consequences when you don't pay Victoria or obey that little shit of Bradi
And I also wish our heroine here wasn't so stupid (Oh my God... When she asks Mr. Kebab, "How much is 10%?" about the $100 rent)... Is she for real??? She is certainly beautiful, but alas, just as thick, slow and dumb, even though one can choose to make the smartest moves, her bitchy temperament blinds her all the time. Which gives us, either we let her sink into gentle depravity, or we make her avoid the traps, knowing that we will deprive ourselves of content, rather (IMO) softcore or vanilla.
What I mean is that it lacks challenge, and that the threat of the farm (which will probably never see the light of day in the game) becomes completely obsolete. Whatever the player's choices, we know in advance which direction the game is taking, and we are condemned to witness a slow descent in a spiral leading our bitchy heroine towards the abyss of perversion, without any hope of regaining her social status, and even less her dignity.

Yep guess you should stop playing now delete the VN from your hard drive and never look back. You know what's going to happen so why bother.

 

[ramiurga]

It is sooo good this game, truly a masterpiece! Continues to be a five star game
Super quality throughout, however in the last episode, at Le Grande, there is a strange translation mistake in that "toes" are repeatedly called "fingers" ...

 

[Stan5851]

Yep guess you should stop playing now delete the VN from your hard drive and never look back. You know what's going to happen so why bother.

I believe that we should not deprive people of hope for the best. After all, the developer promises ~8 different endings, and what they will be, none of us know. What DM can't be denied is the ability to keep the intrigue of the main plot. We have been breaking spears for several years, discussing in this thread in detail the possible outcomes of the game, analyzing what is going on, comparing facts, events, phrases, sometimes hitting the conspiracy theory, but the truth is still hidden from us over the horizon. One thing I can assume is that it's unlikely that all of these 8 endings will be conventionally bad (although we can't rule it out).

 

[wildride69]

I believe that we should not deprive people of hope for the best. After all, the developer promises ~8 different endings, and what they will be, none of us know. What DM can't be denied is the ability to keep the intrigue of the main plot. We have been breaking spears for several years, discussing in this thread in detail the possible outcomes of the game, analyzing what is going on, comparing facts, events, phrases, sometimes hitting the conspiracy theory, but the truth is still hidden from us over the horizon. One thing I can assume is that it's unlikely that all of these 8 endings will be conventionally bad. (although we can't rule it out)

Ok, maybe I should have suggested he play Starfield or CyberPunk 2077 instead? I understand those 2 games are full of legit challenges

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Yep guess you should stop playing now delete the VN from your hard drive and never look back. You know what's going to happen so why bother.

I'm really happy that you like the game the way it is, but on the one hand, that doesn't forbid me from expressing my opinion, on the other hand, you should take the time to learn to read before making a comment which in no way relates what I said. There's a big difference between knowing what direction the game is going and knowing what's going to happen.
Best regards

 

[Stan5851]

Ok, maybe I should have suggested he play Starfield or CyberPunk 2077 instead? I understand those 2 games are full of legit challenges

Just for me personally, phrases like "you can delete the game and never come back" to it always seem a bit rude. No offense. I believe that if a person plays FB, he has his reasons for doing so anyway. And what particular aspect or fetish drew his attention to FB is not that important anymore. As you know, I personally support having several endings that are completely polar to each other at once, from sending Monica to the Farm to letting her overcome the challenges and emerge victorious. It's a vast and sweeping game that appeals to completely different players.

Someone checks in once a year and asks if the sequel to Monica's Revenge has come out, then disappears again before the deadline.Some are only interested in Slums path, some are only interested in Shiny Hole. Some are not so much a fan of Monica's beauty as they are of the gorgeous Melanie or Claire. In general, we are all different and we all have our own reasons to love this game even if those reasons are not shared by other players.

 

[Birdnman993]

Just for me personally, phrases like "you can delete the game and never come back" to it always seem a bit rude. No offense. I believe that if a person plays FB, he has his reasons for doing so anyway. And what particular aspect or fetish drew his attention to FB is not that important anymore. As you know, I personally support having several endings that are completely polar to each other at once, from sending Monica to the Farm to letting her overcome the challenges and emerge victorious. It's a vast and sweeping game that appeals to completely different players.

Someone checks in once a year and asks if the sequel to Monica's Revenge has come out, then disappears again before the deadline.Some are only interested in Slums path, some are only interested in Shiny Hole. Some are not so much a fan of Monica's beauty as they are of the gorgeous Melanie or Claire. In general, we are all different and we all have our own reasons to love this game even if those reasons are not shared by other players.

If there is no ending in which Monica has to forcibly marry Julia in order to get rid of everyone who is after her, for me the war will have been lost.

That's why I don't want to get excited until it's finished.

 

[wildride69]

Just for me personally, phrases like "you can delete the game and never come back" to it always seem a bit rude. No offense. I believe that if a person plays FB, he has his reasons for doing so anyway. And what particular aspect or fetish drew his attention to FB is not that important anymore. As you know, I personally support having several endings that are completely polar to each other at once, from sending Monica to the Farm to letting her overcome the challenges and emerge victorious. It's a vast and sweeping game that appeals to completely different players.

Someone checks in once a year and asks if the sequel to Monica's Revenge has come out, then disappears again before the deadline.Some are only interested in Slums path, some are only interested in Shiny Hole. Some are not so much a fan of Monica's beauty as they are of the gorgeous Melanie or Claire. In general, we are all different and we all have our own reasons to love this game even if those reasons are not shared by other players.

Well I am from NY so rudeness is built into my DNA lol

 

[wildride69]

I'm really happy that you like the game the way it is, but on the one hand, that doesn't forbid me from expressing my opinion, on the other hand, you should take the time to learn to read before making a comment which in no way relates what I said. There's a big difference between knowing what direction the game is going and knowing what's going to happen.
Best regards

You know I'm going to do something here I don't think I have ever seen on here before!

I apologize I guess I must have misunderstood your post, and I kindly ask for your forgiveness.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Just for me personally, phrases like "you can delete the game and never come back" to it always seem a bit rude. No offense. I believe that if a person plays FB, he has his reasons for doing so anyway. And what particular aspect or fetish drew his attention to FB is not that important anymore. As you know, I personally support having several endings that are completely polar to each other at once, from sending Monica to the Farm to letting her overcome the challenges and emerge victorious. It's a vast and sweeping game that appeals to completely different players.

Someone checks in once a year and asks if the sequel to Monica's Revenge has come out, then disappears again before the deadline.Some are only interested in Slums path, some are only interested in Shiny Hole. Some are not so much a fan of Monica's beauty as they are of the gorgeous Melanie or Claire. In general, we are all different and we all have our own reasons to love this game even if those reasons are not shared by other players.

I always enjoy reading comments that make sense and I completely agree with you. Whether it's this game or another, a sport, a movie, or even a job, many people may like the same thing or things for different reasons. What leads us to like something in common and the reasons why we do so are what make discussions interesting. What pushed us to play this game, and what made my partner and I react quite strongly (in a funny way), is that we know the fashion business environment very well, so it's difficult for us try not to identify similar situations. We are only at episode 2, and we are trying to stay away from comments on 3 and 4 so as not to spoil the surprise of this fiction. All I can say for now is ep 2 is a lot gentler than what we've seen in this business

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

You know I'm going to do something here I don't think I have ever seen on here before!

I apologize I guess I must have misunderstood your post, and I kindly ask for your forgiveness.

And I accept your apology. Nonono... Don't do that, I wasn't offended, nor was my partner.
You were very polite in wanting to kick me out

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Out of curiosity. Is there a possible contract that could be signed with Tiffany in episode 2 or another ep?

 

[Stan5851]

Out of curiosity. Is there a possible contract that could be signed with Tiffany in episode 2 or another ep?

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I wouldn't call it a "contract", but yes, Monica will have a closer "relationship" with Tiffany (in ep3v15+). When you get to that stage of the game, I'd definitely be interested to know if there's such a thing in real fashion business.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

I wouldn't call it a "contract", but yes, Monica will have a closer "relationship" with Tiffany (in ep3v15+). When you get to that stage of the game, I'd definitely be interested to know if there's such a thing in real fashion business.

Well.. You have me intrigued now. I'll try to remember to come to you when we'll get there

 

[TheLecher]

If there is no ending in which Monica has to forcibly marry Julia in order to get rid of everyone who is after her, for me the war will have been lost.

Some months back, I posted about the endings I would like to see for this game. I think that I would add the above to that list. I'd like to see an ending in which Monica has to rely on Julia for protection, and therefor has to go on doing whatever Julia says for the rest of her life.

 

[Stan5851]

Some months back, I posted about the endings I would like to see for this game. I think that I would add the above to that list. I'd like to see an ending in which Monica has to rely on Julia for protection, and therefor has to go on doing whatever Julia says for the rest of her life.

Considering the fact that some of the players Julia is hardly less annoying than Victoria, truly, it would be a terrible ending for Monica.) The endless trips to the market for fish and cleaning the apartment together are more like a bad dream.

 

[TheLecher]

Considering the fact that some of the players Julia is hardly less annoying than Victoria, truly, it would be a terrible ending for Monica.) The endless trips to the market for fish and cleaning the apartment together are more like a bad dream.

But the poetic justice of it would be sweet.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Monica has just signed the 7th "contract" with Steve (that's when Betty comes to his office), then goes to see Biff in his former office, but he doesn't allow her to work. Should I wait a week to contact him again? Is this the same rule as for all other contracts?

Edit: Ok, I have the answer. I just skipped the whole week since Monica had nothing interesting to do. So it's the same rule

 

[agn25]

That's what I thought. This ep has many unfinished quest endings.
Like the fact that you face no consequences when you don't pay Victoria or obey that little shit of Bradi
And I also wish our heroine here wasn't so stupid (Oh my God... When she asks Mr. Kebab, "How much is 10%?" about the $100 rent)... Is she for real??? She is certainly beautiful, but alas, just as thick, slow and dumb, even though one can choose to make the smartest moves, her bitchy temperament blinds her all the time. Which gives us, either we let her sink into gentle depravity, or we make her avoid the traps, knowing that we will deprive ourselves of content, rather (IMO) softcore or vanilla.
What I mean is that it lacks challenge, and that the threat of the farm (which will probably never see the light of day in the game) becomes completely obsolete. Whatever the player's choices, we know in advance which direction the game is taking, and we are condemned to witness a slow descent in a spiral leading our bitchy heroine towards the abyss of perversion, without any hope of regaining her social status, and even less her dignity.

First let me say that the reason why many quests are not finished in ep2 is because we are still to this day playing ep2 in all but name. Ep3 and the new ep4 are just continuations of the story broken apart by Decent Monkey because the file size of ep2 and then ep3 were to large. There is no proper episode ending like there was for ep1 for either ep2 or ep3.

I agree that not having any negative outcomes for Monica if she fails to get Victoria's money on time two weeks in a row is a big negative for the game. I guess that would have required Decent Monkey to produce a bad farm ending earlier in production than he wanted (or if ever). The problem now is that those bad endings will never be added to ep2 or ep3 and will not happen, if at all, until the final updates of ep4.

You are right calling Monica out on her stupidity. She is the classic unreliable narrator. Just because she believes she is a genius, doesn't make her one in reality(or even in this games reality, if that even exists).

 

[vimmers]

Edit: Ok, I have the answer. I just skipped the whole week since Monica had nothing interesting to do. So it's the same rule

yes she can only do either a contract or a photoshoot once a week