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After those two someone spoke up about the delaysThe absolute best after these delays are the comments of fanboys - always fascinating!
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Im out fellas. I dont want this even for free. Bye.
- Aug 15, 2018
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stockholm syndromeThe absolute best after these delays are the comments of fanboys - always fascinating!
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Yeah, a very powerful echo chamber. Those are "Notice me! Please notice me!" behaviour, they are racing with each other to be the best fanboi. You can also see very similar behaviours around Ponzi Schemes, Pyramid Schemes even though scamming is much more obvious.
Few of them are aware of the scamming business, but they can't help themselves. They are in deep with months of payments and trying to make themselves believe that everything is gonna be awesome in the end, nothing is gonna be in vain!
Some of them are just desperate and/or hardcore fanboys, really worshipping him and won't ever question the situation as long as he feeds them with some nice words, not even promises.
Others are just brain dead or have too much money and doesn't give a fuck (or forgot) . Let's say he stopped posting and his patreon became dead for at least a year, they will still continue to pay money.
There are probably some newbie patrons, not aware of the situation and waiting Morpheus to open their eyes.
BTW being a fan of a dev and showering him/her with compliments isn't a bad thing as long as the dev is a hard worker and honest.
Solution is so simple; just pause your pledges for a month and next month you will see that he's working his ass off and releasing new versions like crazy. All you need to do is write a post in discord or patreon anouncing that you're gonna pause your payment and want others to join you. Then hundreds of smart patrons joins the cause to teach a lesson to the dev and... yet impossible! Unfortunately...
So more money for the dev, more fun (or awe) for us, more devotion for his/her cult.
I also don't care about this game for at least a year like Kristof29, but I like reading comments in this thread and similar other threads like Dual Family, Milfy City, AWAM, etc time to time, it's like a fun documentary/mocumentary.
Few of them are aware of the scamming business, but they can't help themselves. They are in deep with months of payments and trying to make themselves believe that everything is gonna be awesome in the end, nothing is gonna be in vain!
Some of them are just desperate and/or hardcore fanboys, really worshipping him and won't ever question the situation as long as he feeds them with some nice words, not even promises.
Others are just brain dead or have too much money and doesn't give a fuck (or forgot) . Let's say he stopped posting and his patreon became dead for at least a year, they will still continue to pay money.
There are probably some newbie patrons, not aware of the situation and waiting Morpheus to open their eyes.
BTW being a fan of a dev and showering him/her with compliments isn't a bad thing as long as the dev is a hard worker and honest.
Solution is so simple; just pause your pledges for a month and next month you will see that he's working his ass off and releasing new versions like crazy. All you need to do is write a post in discord or patreon anouncing that you're gonna pause your payment and want others to join you. Then hundreds of smart patrons joins the cause to teach a lesson to the dev and... yet impossible! Unfortunately...
So more money for the dev, more fun (or awe) for us, more devotion for his/her cult.
I also don't care about this game for at least a year like Kristof29, but I like reading comments in this thread and similar other threads like Dual Family, Milfy City, AWAM, etc time to time, it's like a fun documentary/mocumentary.
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So what you are saying is that essentially the current situation is a win - win - win
- Aug 15, 2018
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OMG... Last one is priceless.
Overall, like reading letters to beloved leader Kim
I'm not sure that would work now. I think, if that were to happen (say, almost everyone paused for a month and his patreon payout was "just" under $1000) what would happen is that he'd go silent for a couple of weeks, and then post an update (patreon update, not game update) guilt tripping people into giving him money. Not as literal as "I wish I could work on the game but I can't do it if you don't give me money" but with the same idea.
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the real solution is to change monthly tiers into per major update tiers (it exists on patreon, i saw it on some games). patrons need to force him but after reading letters to beloved chairman mao from discord, there is no balls or mind for that...
what strikes me is that these crush-groupies are babbling about supporting him. no. support is when you throw some money, some time. when you are billing people recuring each 1st of month for fixed amount of money it is subscription and it has to have committments from both sides. i don't see this here. like been subcribed on magazine and you don't get nothing this month except "sorry delayed" note (like IOU notes from dumb & dumber). no money back, no guarantees. only fools and horses work.
this game has potential and i would be happy to pay it when/if it is finished. i'm not against patroning neither (i'm also patron to dev who regulary delivers, and soon i'll start supporting 2nd) but not to guys misusing it.
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- Jul 21, 2017
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Better solution, give me teh money for a month. It won't help the game any, just that I could do with some cash atm.
If I play the 1.11 version can I import it to the 1.16? Or are the versions totally seperate for now?
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Didn't Crush at one time say that he was an Economics major and that he literally used the game as part of his thesis on how to bilk investors out of money by proposing development delays and excuses? That somehow rings a bell. I somehow remember reading that on his blog or something when the game very first launched.
Also adding that there are quite a few game developers that are not actually game developers. They are just project managers. Their actual dev teams and graphics teams may be outsourced. Usually to Russia and the Ukraine. Which currently have their own problems at the moment. So I can see delays if the 'dev' falls into this category.
Also adding that there are quite a few game developers that are not actually game developers. They are just project managers. Their actual dev teams and graphics teams may be outsourced. Usually to Russia and the Ukraine. Which currently have their own problems at the moment. So I can see delays if the 'dev' falls into this category.
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The man is writing his doctoral thesis at this point.
Think you're mixing him up with someone else. He had a decent day job in an office and had never attempted a creative project before. So this is more like most first creative efforts and just super disorganized except he was given a bunch of money from the start.
That was my lesson years ago in this. If you're going to support someone on Patreon choose someone that's done it before and knows to handle all the usual pitfalls these things can have. He's instead described almost every kind over the years and made the amateur mistakes.
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While I concede a perfectionist might actually take half a decade to finish a mostly-linear VN, that also means that someone who's legitimately a perfectionist would probably be done by now. Also, legitimate perfectionists tend to actually have a plan.
Crush started out as a dreamer who went for a sandbox he has fuck all clue how to realize even today, but back in the day, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he just needs to figure out what he actually can do and then do that in a reasonable way and timeframe.
Unfortunately, instead of actually finding his way, he seems to have devolved into a cynical son of a bitch stringing a flock of mindless Patreon sheep along with excuses for his unwillingness to write to a deadline. None of his stuff is actually so mindbogglingly brilliant it could possibly justify taking that much time.
Crush started out as a dreamer who went for a sandbox he has fuck all clue how to realize even today, but back in the day, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he just needs to figure out what he actually can do and then do that in a reasonable way and timeframe.
Unfortunately, instead of actually finding his way, he seems to have devolved into a cynical son of a bitch stringing a flock of mindless Patreon sheep along with excuses for his unwillingness to write to a deadline. None of his stuff is actually so mindbogglingly brilliant it could possibly justify taking that much time.
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I'm pretty sure he's never openly said "Yeah I'm just milking you all"
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Yeah as far as I know, he's never said that in any clear way. Most likely he doesn't entirely believe that either, but being late doesn't feel good. This isn't the place for psychology, since people can jump up and oppose anything said, and since any speculation will never be confirmed. That sort of thing belongs in a far more controlled setting.