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Yeah it's generally the only available route to assume that consistently paying customers are satisfied customers. While that may not be strictly true according to what we know about human nature, I don't believe that human nature is going to change radically in a week or even over the lifetime of FA development.
 
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My money is on him posting later today about releasing early access at the end of the month. One of the patrons got restless and actually asked about a release date so maybe he has delayed enough and will sit down and finish the update.

EDIT: Well, obviously the smart money is never on Crush actually accomplishing anything.
 
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My money is on him posting later today about releasing early access at the end of the month. One of the patrons got restless and actually asked about a release date so maybe he has delayed enough and will sit down and finish the update.
i just came to check this week's lame excuse for another delay
this lying milkman has best job at the planet - making porn story with no deadlines, responsabilities or any obligations toward his subscribers
basicaly this lazy ass is paid 1,5k usd per weekly report:"sorry another delay"

if patrons really want to move this game forward they should just stop giving money before updates.
they just need to tell him to change tiers from monthly into per major update or cancel subscription themselves until update is release. i'm sure this will give us more progress and in the end more supporters to him.
 

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Here goes excuse of the week guys!!!

Hey guys! I have good news and bad news to report.

The good news is that I've finally blasted through my block. This wasn't the traditional 'writer's block' where you stare at a blank screen unable to think up any ideas; it was extreme difficulty getting the draft ideas to a point where they felt sexy and fun.
Now it feels like everything is zipping along. One of the big problems I was having was dialogue choices and just dialogue in general. (Which is a problem on a girls' night out, because girls kind of like talking, right, and also a problem from a gameplay perspective because without dialogue choices you're just playing a slideshow.)
I made some changes to characterisation and pace – basically slowed the scenes down, and just let the characters breathe a little – and now the dialogue is flowing and the character relationships feel more genuine and interesting. That makes everything just feel hotter and it also allows for more plot development since the girls can talk about the club without actually being in the club.
I'm so excited and relieved because I was having serious doubts that I could do this at all, and now it's just a matter of time. (Last week I wasn't even sure that it was good, but this week I do feel pretty confident that you guys will like it.)

The bad news is that all this extra time I've spent battling through the block means that I'm seriously behind schedule.
I do not know if this episode will be ready for early access by Halloween. I hope so, and will do my best to make up the lost ground this week, and I'm now advancing quickly. But there's only so many words I can write per day. This took way longer than I dreamed it could, and it's going to be tight.

I'm aware I've missed several deadlines with this episode already, so I'm going to do my absolute best to get this cracked this week. But I wanted to give you guys a heads up on the situation and admit that it may not happen. I'll make a report on the 30th, hopefully with good news.
You had one job...
 

rbx4

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A (likely small) part of how this happens is maintained by what we say here. If people didn't arrive at Internet discussions to criticize the lateness, we wouldn't have others self-identifying as defenders of the FA release schedule. This causes these defenders to double-down on their monetary investment in the game. Given the rate at which things happen, many people would otherwise completely forget about the game between releases.

I can't say that this would drive it down to obscurity, however. Crush realizes that constant Discord dialogue with fans is a way to keep FA fresh in people's minds even when releases do not happen. Plus, people with a disposable cash tend to throw it away on subscriptions that go on forever with little or no payout, and therefore forgetting about the game only reinforces this phenomenon.

I'm not saying to stop criticizing of course--truth needs to be said. I'm just explaining how this happens.
 
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A (likely small) part of how this happens is maintained by what we say here. If people didn't arrive at Internet discussions to criticize the lateness, we wouldn't have others self-identifying as defenders of the FA release schedule. This causes these defenders to double-down on their monetary investment in the game. Given the rate at which things happen, many people would otherwise completely forget about the game between releases.

I can't say that this would drive it down to obscurity, however. Crush realizes that constant Discord dialogue with fans is a way to keep FA fresh in people's minds even when releases do not happen. Plus, people with a disposable cash tend to throw it away on subscriptions that go on forever with little or no payout, and therefore forgetting about the game only reinforces this phenomenon.

I'm not saying to stop criticizing of course--truth needs to be said. I'm just explaining how this happens.
I'd like to believe that we've deterred more people from supporting (or beginning to support) these kinds of business models with our discussions here than kept on the stranded ship.
At the end of the day, I can't fault Crush for being the way he is. He's certainly intelligent and savvy to maintain this kind of support after all the setbacks, and it works enough that there's really no incentive to change.
I was semi-ironic on my last post. I really do admire his ability and talent. FA as an idea was great and I loved playing through it the first couple times. But it's been a wild ride.
 
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A (likely small) part of how this happens is maintained by what we say here. If people didn't arrive at Internet discussions to criticize the lateness, we wouldn't have others self-identifying as defenders of the FA release schedule. This causes these defenders to double-down on their monetary investment in the game. Given the rate at which things happen, many people would otherwise completely forget about the game between releases.

I can't say that this would drive it down to obscurity, however. Crush realizes that constant Discord dialogue with fans is a way to keep FA fresh in people's minds even when releases do not happen. Plus, people with a disposable cash tend to throw it away on subscriptions that go on forever with little or no payout, and therefore forgetting about the game only reinforces this phenomenon.

I'm not saying to stop criticizing of course--truth needs to be said. I'm just explaining how this happens.
Very good points, and the reason why I stopped following\commenting here. Basically the more people talk about it the more attention (and money) he gets.
Failed deadlines cries, the constant alluring pictures he carefully pick for his posts, etc.. have all the same objective: keep attention high so that people do not leave while he works as little as possible. The last delays granted him 13000$, Idk if you guys realize how much it is but I assure you with what he gets every month you could run a little business and pay at least 2 people making only that for an entire month, working 5 days a week. Considering how easy and linear he's developing the game, I'm convinced those two people could produce the equivalent of his entire game every month (every two with a proper character creation and the relative variability, and by working smartly which he doesn't).
And just to be clear, I don't hate him. For sure he's not the only one on the internet unfairly getting tons of money. I just despise him because I know what he could do.
 
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leg28

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Damn, this must be one of the only negative comments I've seen on his patreon:

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Granted, it's hard to find negative comments when you need to be a patreon to leave comments to begin with, but still.
Very rare....
I still can't understand why they are still supporting him or games alike (awam, jessica, lust campus, milfy city...). By funding them on monthly base supporters are encouraging these "devs" behaviour and making them pushing limits how long they can extend time between updates. Or, blantly, how many months they can grab their subscriptions before being forced to seriously work.

Patreon is only major site where you can subscribe on nothing, where ones that pay have no protection amd where ones receiving money have no obligations, schedule or have to produce anything in month when they collect their fees.

Ask yourselves how long you'll be subscribe to site (porn or streaming) that from month to month delivers no new content, just excuses. Heck, you have pay monthly subscription just to read weekly/monthly report saying you "sorry, couldn't deliver". Like movies and porn site ask you to pay for trailers, browsing or see what you get. Like, you buying chips in local store: first pay then you can read ingredients, best use until date...

Still power is in the hands of supporters who don't understand that or either don't care throwing them money. But they both for sure like these games and want progress.
Solution is simple, affirmative action by supporters. Demand from crush and similar devs to change payment from monthly into per major update. If refuses post on his/their patreon, discord pages that as from now you suspend your subscription until the day of next release. That will be major swing for consumer rights and push devs to work more (giving them in the end even more supporters). I can also throw my money to such dev (if crush was honest, hard working i'll be his subscriber too). These are my card info, 5, 10...usd waiting on card for your update to bill me. No update, no cash.
Some "devs" will abandon projects (because they were not serious or honest anyway), some will continue their lazy once-a-year schedule (but at least you won't paying their vacations), but most will do more and faster on everyones satisfaction.
 
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