shadow415

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Just played it. 1.9 and 1.6 feels like two completely different games. I like 1.9 better even though it has very little content right now.
 

herrzimm1

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I don't know, it's always been weird to me that people think being a good writer is some sort of skill only a few other people have.
I am starting to think that you have misidentified the key issue in regards to writing.

It isn't that writing itself is a skill to be considered "good or bad". It is more of a skill in regards to STORY TELLING. When you consider a good story teller vs bad story teller, the conversation shifts drastically. It also shifts a second time when you consider having to add "game elements" into telling your story.
 

ray3dave

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Wow, version 1.9 is excellent. As a reboot of the game, this feels very promising. Streamlining the project was the right choice.
Most of all I like the thrilling spy story. Just what I expect of a game called female agent.

I am looking forward to the dev using the same stuff again in their next installments "Female politician" and "Female reporter". It will become an epic series.
 

TheGodUncle

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wait wait wait. So after years of stalling development with the story going no where, they decided the top priority right now is to come up with a "pre-quel" story about
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It's all about your character's backstory. Which of course is more important than moving on to the actual game. We just have to wait 18 real life years for the game to move on from the backstory.
 

herrzimm1

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wait wait wait. So after years of stalling development with the story going no where, they decided the top priority right now is to come up with a "pre-quel" story about
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In a way, I am kind of allowing the "new format" a bit of a pass in regard to content. I mean, to be fair about it, there IS a new format to rework mechanics behind the scenes in regard to coding. So, while NOT impressed with how that content was presented as I have HUGE issues with it, I am going to give them a break in regards to the AMOUNT of content.
 

herrzimm1

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(Expanding on prior post and hoping SOMEONE connected to the new format sees this at some point).

While I am enjoying the new format's presentation, I have a SERIOUS issue in regard to the way the content has been presented.
1) I'm sorry, but absolutely NOBODY in their right mind (even a fantasy game) is going to answer the spit/swallow question in yes/no responses. THAT type of content should be treated as a "dice roll situation" until a specific number of events is reached. This allows you to play the game building up someone who swallows casually or only on "rare occasions" or possibly never swallows. In regard to blowing the 3 friends, I think that it would be a better scene (gameplay) if there is additional pressure added by the friends to have you do it for them "because you are friends, and that is what friends do for each other", or make separate rolls each time that someone cums, and if you "pass" the roll, you can then decide to do it or not. Plus, it would make it a rather interesting scene later if you get presented the option to "think about it" later that night. Increasing options to make it a 'fetish" or not.

2) As far as the pill/condom issue is concerned. I do think that the game would have a better presentation of character "mental state" in regards to BOTH issues on a separate level. The pill option can be considered a "safety net" in regards to pregnancy is concerned. But the condom issue should be treated more down the lines of enjoyment. Preferring "bareback" or not should be something to take into consideration as far as the character being more or less likely to accept the mission to begin with. And it should be something that can be adjusted situation by situation where there is a moment of hesitation (dice roll) to make to see if you can refuse if he doesn't have a condom with him. Refusing can obviously be optional, but it should be something that at least causes the character to be a little bit more hesitant if the correct "triggers" haven't been reached. Such as a "prudish" person being more reluctant than a casual-sex type person, or someone NOT using the pill being a little more firm about using condoms.

3) As this hasn't quite been put into the game at this point. I have a fear that there will be a major mishandling of anal sex and how it is worked out. I feel, due to what has been presented so far, that it will be a simple yes/no situation, where I feel that it would be better suited to character building, if anal sex is something that requires major dice rolls for. Not only to have it for the first time, but to determine enjoyment AND to determine condom usage AS WELL as frequency. It can build up a "no pill" user who does anal sex as a "safety" or a "casual-sex" type who is up for anything, or a sub, or a dom, or even someone who simply doesn't care one way or the other as long as it is good sex overall. It can also build up additional fetishes later on such as DP, ATM, or Group sex, or possibly be used to spice up existing content such as the 3 friend blowjob turning into a gangbang. As I said, at this point I know it isn't in the game, but I am worried that it will be treated as current content has been treated and only a simple yes/no feature, when it SHOULD (at least as far as a real game mechanic is concerned) be treated carefully in order to allow more options AS a player other than yes/no and pointless dice rolls.
 

Tanzie

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Then it is subjective matter and you can't fault other for leap of faith. As I was also active member of several modding community and worked pro bono I could have different experience as I seen projects done. Even on this site there are authors that finished their projects using monetary support. I do agree, that caution and awareness is need that is high risk of project begin abandoned - but as in modding communities often occurrence abandoned project can be picked up by someone else that was inspired by original author. More open we are more new and interesting ideas we can get, so you should be cautions but not entirely hoistle to somone asking for support there are bad apples as we see in this thread but not everyone are like this.
There's nothing subjective or hostile in what I wrote and there's no logical explanation for losing time and money on a porn game that barely exists, by taking a "leap of faith". "Faith" in what exactly, in person you don't even know? Despite the fact that tens of thousands of people are being scammed by others every single day by taking a "leap of faith"? I also have created mods for more than two decades and have been active on various modding communities and I have never demanded monetary support from other people to create "mods", because I had created them, first and foremost, for my own use. Anyone can easily tell that there's a significant difference between a "mod" and a "game". A mod is created for an existing game, you don't need to wait for the "game" to be created, you already have something to play. Yes, someone might pick up an abandoned game project, but what good would it do for the people who have already lost time and money waiting for it? It would be nothing but a start of another waiting cycle that leads them to yet another uncertainty. I'm no one's parent or guardian, you're free to do whatever you want with your time and money, but I still feel obligated to warn people, not to save a particular person from harm, but because their stupidity encourages predatory behaviors and in the end negatively affects the community. You may take a "leap of faith" on a project with your time and money, but what about the others who follow your example? Are you willing to compensate for their losses when things didn't go the way you had anticipated? Of course not. So, do what you will, but stop encouraging others. If someone wants to create a game but needs monetary support to complete the whole thing, he or she has to come up with a playable demo of the game first. No one should expect or demand, or be allowed to demand monetary support for their "dreams" or their "baits".
 

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There's nothing subjective or hostile in what I wrote and there's no logical explanation for losing time and money on a porn game that barely exists, by taking a "leap of faith". "Faith" in what exactly, in person you don't even know? Despite the fact that tens of thousands of people are being scammed by others every single day by taking a "leap of faith"? I also have created mods for more than two decades and have been active on various modding communities and I have never demanded monetary support from other people to create "mods", because I had created them, first and foremost, for my own use. Anyone can easily tell that there's a significant difference between a "mod" and a "game". A mod is created for an existing game, you don't need to wait for the "game" to be created, you already have something to play. Yes, someone might pick up an abandoned game project, but what good would it do for the people who have already lost time and money waiting for it? It would be nothing but a start of another waiting cycle that leads them to yet another uncertainty. I'm no one's parent or guardian, you're free to do whatever you want with your time and money, but I still feel obligated to warn people, not to save a particular person from harm, but because their stupidity encourages predatory behaviors and in the end negatively affects the community. You may take a "leap of faith" on a project with your time and money, but what about the others who follow your example? Are you willing to compensate for their losses when things didn't go the way you had anticipated? Of course not. So, do what you will, but stop encouraging others. If someone wants to create a game but needs monetary support to complete the whole thing, he or she has to come up with a playable demo of the game first. No one should expect or demand, or be allowed to demand monetary support for their "dreams" or their "baits".
Meaning all porn like this here should be done without l support, on authors free time and kept inside? Because it is logical follow up from things that you wrote. Or by saying demo(bait) you mean full game? :p
 
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Davkin

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It can also build up additional fetishes later on such as DP, ATM, or Group sex, or possibly be used to spice up existing content such as the 3 friend blowjob turning into a gangbang.
Considering all the current fetishes only resulted in some slight variations of the same event (e.g., in wet t-shirt contest, you can respond with exhibitionism/masochist/old-men dialogues. But none of them lead to anything unique), I think you are hoping for too much.

So far, I have a feeling that the authors can't decide between a linear story or a multi-path sort of game. All the preparation they've done are to prepare for the latter, but all of the content is just a giant linear path. I'm afraid they have to figure that out before anything substantial can be presented. But by the pace of this game's development, I don't have much confidence that will ever happen.
 

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Meaning all porn like this here should be done without l support, on authors free time and kept inside? Because it is logical follow up from things that you wrote. Or by saying demo(bait) you mean full game? :p
Support should only be given to those who deserve it and not to the ones who came up with fancy, mouth-watering ideas with no game play to show for and in that regard, what I mean by "bait" should be pretty obvious. A demo is a showcase of a game play loop in which a player will be spending most of his time. In the case of "Female Agent" and "The Fixer", that is the part basically corresponds to their "main mission" as written in the description of these games, the part neither of them currently have.

When someone asks for monetary support on Patreon etc. for a project that will clearly take more than three months to complete (which is Patreon's deadline for refunds), without giving any deadline for completion, it should immediately be seen as a red flag for anyone who considers supporting it, due to its high risk of exploitation. Which, by the way, seems to be the case for many game projects here, including the aforementioned ones.
 
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Dysphorika

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Well, is a fact that a whole lot of games (and more sadly when have patreon) doesn't go updated from 0.1 here.
Don't believe me, just check how many abandoned/on hold/etc.
 

herrzimm1

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Considering all the current fetishes only resulted in some slight variations of the same event (e.g., in wet t-shirt contest, you can respond with exhibitionism/masochist/old-men dialogues. But none of them lead to anything unique), I think you are hoping for too much.

Yeah, probably right. And that is why I am both happy about the new format and not really hopeful about it either.
 
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prodigy

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Support should only be given to those who deserve it and not to the ones who came up with fancy, mouth-watering ideas with no game play to show for and in that regard, what I mean by "bait" should be pretty obvious. A demo is a showcase of a game play loop in which a player will be spending most of his time. In the case of "Female Agent" and "The Fixer", that is the part basically corresponds to their "main mission" as written in the description of these games, the part neither of them currently have.

When someone asks for monetary support on Patreon etc. for a project that will clearly take more than three months to complete (which is Patreon's deadline for refunds), without giving any deadline for completion, it should immediately be seen as a red flag for anyone who considers supporting it, due to its high risk of exploitation. Which, by the way, seems to be the case for many game projects here, including the aforementioned ones.
That's for people to decide if the demo enough for them, and if only those who deserve it in your opinion got supported we would only had slim variety of games - because of such gatekeeping people would only invest time in something that is safe and popular. I end it here because we are going in loops.
 
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Davkin

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Anyway, anyone can recommend another game that has a similar fetish? (mild/slow corruption and reluctant/coercion). Sort like good girl gone bad.

Japanese games seem to have this as a common theme, but the corruption process in those games tend to be too fast. Like ten minutes after game start, you can have the protagonist streaking in public.
 
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