XJ347

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I'm with you that I think the writing has some issues. It's not garbage like most of the games on this site, but definitely has holes in it. He should just say that they have limited cameras and none of them are in the sensitive areas. The sensitive areas have to much shielding and wifi don't work inside the building that deep. It's not THAT hard to write an explanation why we still need a spy to go in...

As for corruption, I really am sad that your choices don't matter. I really wish you could go a path where you are a prude, don't enjoy it but do it because you are determined. I also want a path where you unknowingly are a slut and this experience awakens something in you, but we don't get a choice. You have to enjoy being raped fucked by your boss even if you don't want to role play it that way or not, is a shame. It's not how I would do it, but then again I couldn't do this for a living, there isn't enough profit from it. California is expensive.
 
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KopretCZ

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Haven't played it for a while and I tried to restart from the beginning with the v1.17. I'm at the Ghost Tower event with the Indian couples and I remember that if you go all the way up with Danny, you can do something with him (kiss him or something similar), but this time I can't do it in any case. I also tried to failed the agility check while walking across the walkway roof to be helped by him, but nothing seems to work.
Do you know if the scene was removed at some point? Or what can I do to unlock it?
It´s still there - to agility check... well... make saves beforehand and... pray to lady luck that u will manage "the right throw" quickly. I spent almost 10 minutes with that once (bad day even when chilling with games - lol)
 

dividead

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I have criticized Crushstation too. I do think you expect to much from a one man band, and are just jumping on the bandwagon of complaining.

Should there be more content for 3 months of work? Of course, but saying that... I just played this update and it's not short. I think you are implying that it's tiny and it's not.

Not to say there aren't issues. The problem is that the choices are an illusion. I 100% agree with anyone about that topic. No matter what you are forced to be a slut because You get horny from being forced to take the one trait. Exhibition, Submissive, or Masochistic, means you enjoying being treated like shit. The only difference in the story is the reason you enjoy being treated like a slut.

Saying that, looking at Crushstation's record, if we force him to actually create branching paths that game would take exponentially longer. If you have a few different story lines you might have to wait a year for it to get updated. In the end I see that as worse.

Other thing that worries me is that he keeps adding systems. He has added slut reputation with your agency, and that keeps adding to the things slowing progress down. He can't seem to stop editing and just push the story. He seems to be getting better at it, but still it's annoying.
Had more or less the same opinion the last update but this is too slow and this update was pretty short. If the writing isn't working I get it and I would not want him to lower the quality but I really wish he'd stop working on useless stuff.
 
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redhand

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I like the writing and the spy story stuff. The sex scenes are good as well.

Would like updates to be way more frequent, and I want the character development (through skills and side quests, traits, etc) to mean more than it does now, which is not much as things are pretty linear. A good example of more stuff to see: the scene with Cody in the latest update, where you can deploy the Singapore Grip thing learned during the Kriansang Date Night. That shows character progression and player agency and that is what the game needs to show to meet its potential.

The issue I have with this is that the pace of updates for the linear stuff is really slow, and it makes me think that the big game selling point, the RPG with branching paths in Bangkok, just isnt ever gonna happen.

There has got to be a way to get some of the grunt work type stuff to be shuffled off to volunteers.
 
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Mercedes

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Unfortunately, the game has also become too linear for me. Basically there are only two paths. You start the event or you skip the event, because the event itself is very straightforward.
All the decisions you can make in your answers unfortunately have too little effect. It doesn't matter whether you collect sympathy points or the bosses aren't happy with what you say. It is only an interchangeable one-liner in the next slide that is changed, after which everything remains the same. And 5 minutes later, it doesn't matter which decision you made, because you'll never go back to it.

It seems as if the overview of what is already in the game was lost a long time ago, the main thing is that something new comes in without continuing the old paths.
Discord is full of ideas and suggestions on how certain scenes could continue. Apart from a "great idea" there is usually no reaction and in the game you don't notice any changes, even though dozens of suggestions have already been rated as great. Sometimes these changes only require work on one to three slides to make a scene more fluid, but I think what's missing here is just a really big whiteboard with a proper plan of what should be tackled next.

I don't want to belabour the fact that this update was actually scheduled for the end of August. But when I see what the 4-month delay has brought to the game in terms of additional content, I am very disappointed.

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okokok

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Too biased topic + too complicated unlogical content. Game is tried to make realisticaly and well... do u know working reallife-hypno-bimbo-vids?
Maybe it will be back in future some players miss it.
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Isn't it on patreons no-no list? If so I would not expect it to be back
 

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Too biased topic + too complicated unlogical content. Game is tried to make realisticaly and well... do u know working reallife-hypno-bimbo-vids?
Maybe it will be back in future some players miss it.
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nope. just curious. but does hypnosis have to be related to bimbofication? i dont even like bimbos. a very huge turn off. i was asking about hypnosis
 

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Isn't it on patreons no-no list? If so I would not expect it to be back
But neither Patreon nor F95 are comprehensibly sticking to their own rules.
Just take all the sissification games, 90% of which contain hypnovideos, and they are still tolerated on Patreon and F96.
One could almost believe that hypno would be okay if it was combined with sissification and transformation. Normal hypnosis, even to give up smoking, is therefore not tolerated.
 

XJ347

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But neither Patreon nor F95 are comprehensibly sticking to their own rules.
Just take all the sissification games, 90% of which contain hypnovideos, and they are still tolerated on Patreon and F96.
One could almost believe that hypno would be okay if it was combined with sissification and transformation. Normal hypnosis, even to give up smoking, is therefore not tolerated.
What rules are f95 inconstant about???? Seems pretty consistent from my experience. Patreon? Well yeah they are inconsistant, but that's probably because they have to much content to monitor. Shit just slips through their fingers.

I would assume Patreon's hate on hypno is about consent. Patreon is implying that Hypno takes consent away therefor it's rape if sex is involved, which is a big no no to them.

F96 doesn't have a rule against rape... Personally it's all imaginary and pixles so I don't see the big deal but Patreon is scared of the optics, it's cowardly but understandable. Amex blackmails online sites to follow their guidelines, and even put Pornhub in their place, and did it to Onlyfans too, but Onlyfans backed off after their entire userbase revolted. So when Amex threatens Patreon, of course are going to do what it says.
 
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It seems as if the overview of what is already in the game was lost a long time ago, the main thing is that something new comes in without continuing the old paths.

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For me at least, I was disappointed with the first Bangkok update but thought it would be alright, it was supposed to be railroad-y...but further updates just made me shy away from the game (at least until it's actually completed) because it just seems like it's not doing what it was advertised as.


Maybe it's just me, but back in the days of 2019 when I found out about this game, it was advertised as (and played as) "you're a spy and you can use your spy things to get your spy work done...or your body". The game right now seems to be more like "You're a slut and work in a slutty job. Oh but also you ocasionally send some info to some spy agency"
 

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The issue I have with this is that the pace of updates for the linear stuff is really slow, and it makes me think that the big game selling point, the RPG with branching paths in Bangkok, just isnt ever gonna happen.

There has got to be a way to get some of the grunt work type stuff to be shuffled off to volunteers.
Didn't they change the engine to do exactly that two or three years ago? Wasn't the whole point of scrapping the old game in favour of the new one, so that it would be easier for "guest" writers to contribute scenes? Didn't they even try out a few different writers? I could be wrong on this, but I didn't really notice any change in writing. Ever.

I believe that this would be the only way to create a game with a big, semi-open world that lets you do plenty of stuff. But for that you'd have to have a vision of what the game was supposed to be in the first place. How can other people contribute, when the head honcho has no idea where it's going? This is the reason why so many people believe that he has no vision to begin with. The current update is proof and to be clear, I have not played it yet, but not only was he late for one "small" update, he is so far behind schedule to the point where the current update should have included three or four episodes. Not just one. At least three. And he wrote it literally in the last couple of days, because he spent three months doing whatever he did. He outright admitted that he was doing crunch time and considering that we're talking about a few pages of dialogue and code, it makes you wonder what he has been doing over the last few months.

This is why other people contributing wouldn't work. You would need a clear cut framework, some lines to follow or deviate from in order to give more depth without interfering in future stories. Since he is making it up as he goes, how could you work around it?

What really puzzles me is the fact that it took him years to get anything done and all of a sudden he is rushing the entire Bangkok plot. There is not corruption, no fall from grace, no slight downward slope. The Heroine arrives in Thailand and turns into a whore over night. And he did change the original undercover whore-premise in favour of the barmaid approach, because it would be more believable. And here we are, a few days into the Thailand arc and the Heroine doesn't care if she get's raped, creampied and turned into a prostitute.

What's with the rush? And I can't believe I am saying this, but he is rushing the story while at the same time he is stalling development.
 

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What's with the rush? And I can't believe I am saying this, but he is rushing the story while at the same time he is stalling development.
Seems fairly clear to me, though I can't guess the exact details. There is something, whatever it is, eating up 95% of dev time, and then the remaining 5% is spent developing in a hurry. Not my problem of course, just pointing out the obvious. It's a repeating pattern with a few other signs that haven't been mentioned lately. Paying attention for years now, I could essentially plot out the events that accompany this without even looking.
 
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The Heroine arrives in Thailand and turns into a whore over night. And he did change the original undercover whore-premise in favour of the barmaid approach, because it would be more believable. And here we are, a few days into the Thailand arc and the Heroine doesn't care if she get's raped, creampied and turned into a prostitute.
You must have access to some special secret game build, because in the regular game 3 weeks in the heroine is still working at the bar while her brothel supervisors are unsubtly tempting her to switch jobs.
 

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You must have access to some special secret game build, because in the regular game 3 weeks in the heroine is still working at the bar while her brothel supervisors are unsubtly tempting her to switch jobs.
and cheat to make it quiker, and make submissive and exhibitionnist
 

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You must have access to some special secret game build, because in the regular game 3 weeks in the heroine is still working at the bar while her brothel supervisors are unsubtly tempting her to switch jobs.
It's not a secret game build, he is talking about the OG premise. Initially the agent was supposed to go in as a bargirl and gather intel that way. Also she could be hypnotized by the CIA to be more open to the job idea. Which let's be honest, was not the best idea in terms of realism.

What really puzzles me is the fact that it took him years to get anything done and all of a sudden he is rushing the entire Bangkok plot. There is not corruption, no fall from grace, no slight downward slope. The Heroine arrives in Thailand and turns into a whore over night. And he did change the original undercover whore-premise in favour of the barmaid approach, because it would be more believable. And here we are, a few days into the Thailand arc and the Heroine doesn't care if she get's raped, creampied and turned into a prostitute.
I actually think that the barmaid approach is a better idea. You go in and slowly realized that you can't extract too much intel that way. For the good of the mission you have to switch jobs. Combine that with the fact that everyone from the club expects you to do it sooner or later.

You talk about corruption. Well it is there, but it's subtle. Conner is slowly grooming you.
Step 1 - Every time you go with him in the office you receive extra money. You get used with the idea of being paid for sex.
Step 2 - Happened in the last update when he took you to the brothel rooms. Do it enough times and you learn how to lead a men there. You get familiarized with the surroundings, with the room itself, with the sound from the other rooms and with it's purpose.
Step 3(just assumption) - You go there with someone else, not Conner, maybe one of his friends, maybe a customer that convinces you to do it. And that's it. At this point the agent is so used to do this, that it will no longer find the action odd. It's a mechanical activity.

The rushed part is what is happening with the agent when she is in her room. She could reflect a bit about the situation and say that she doesn't like it at first, then accept that it is what it is and later think about the fact tha she actually likes it. Maybe try to masturbate thinking of an ex, a time where she was just a normal girl/women, in order to maintain her initial personality. The shift to the new personality should be done through dreams at first and later imagining scenarios during masturbation.

Seems fairly clear to me, though I can't guess the exact details. There is something, whatever it is, eating up 95% of dev time, and then the remaining 5% is spent developing in a hurry. Not my problem of course, just pointing out the obvious. It's a repeating pattern with a few other signs that haven't been mentioned lately. Paying attention for years now, I could essentially plot out the events that accompany this without even looking.
The 95% is probably the developer own life and job. This is just a hobby project, one that probably gets 2-3 hours per week, one of which is used to write pretty Patreon reports. It's not a full job, working on it 40h/week. It might be described differently, but we all know that is not true.
 
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