HTML Female Agent [v1.20.1p] [Crushstation]

[boobthief]

Brah. Almost 4 weeks ago it was "It’s now playable start to finish! " with only "polishing and editing the scenes, dialogue and descriptions." left to do.

Just in the last week he worked more than 11 hours every day and it's still not done?
I honestly don't get how a simple text game like this takes so much time.
It's not like we're writing a Game of Thrones book here is it!?

I'm going to guess they massively burn out every crunch phase then take a month or so to recover.

The longer it takes, the higher the expectations and pressure, the longer it takes.

Then the well-intentioned but enabling simps on Patreon are like, "We are expecting it to be perfect. You need to spend more time to make it perfect."

Pray for Crush. Also, buy stock in Kleenex.

 

[Marlin Brandy]

I don't know what's so unbelievable about him working 11 hour days. It's quite simple really. He clocks in and clocks out based on having Word open, so:
10:00 - Wake up, boot PC, open Word
11:00-12:00 - Grab a coffee, browse Netflix and binge the latest pseudointellectual show so he can pull some 'deep' quote to soothe his paypigs when he needs another delay
13:00-14:30 - Lunch, because no self respecting artist would work on an empty stomach, and being well fed is the first step to productivity
15:00-17:00 - Check Discord, see if I am getting lovebombed enough and further drive the parasocial relationship I have with my patrons so I can guilt trip them into paying and keep them on the copium
18:00-21:00 - Order in, eat while watching the latest pop media
22:00 - Close Word. phew! Another hard day at work, this time I worked a whole 12 hours!

 

[asdfasdf12341234ACSACA]

I don't know what's so unbelievable about him working 11 hour days. It's quite simple really. He clocks in and clocks out based on having Word open, so:
10:00 - Wake up, boot PC, open Word
11:00-12:00 - Grab a coffee, browse Netflix and binge the latest pseudointellectual show so he can pull some 'deep' quote to soothe his paypigs when he needs another delay
13:00-14:30 - Lunch, because no self respecting artist would work on an empty stomach, and being well fed is the first step to productivity
15:00-17:00 - Check Discord, see if I am getting lovebombed enough and further drive the parasocial relationship I have with my patrons so I can guilt trip them into paying and keep them on the copium
18:00-21:00 - Order in, eat while watching the latest pop media
22:00 - Close Word. phew! Another hard day at work, this time I worked a whole 12 hours!

I know this is half joking...but I know someone with ADHD that has this exact same rationale. I have no clue if Crush actually has ADHD...but it wouldn't surprise me if he did. Open word - Can't find what to write - spend an hour watching something - Go back to word, nothing happens - go watch something else - "I spent the whole day writing this procedure"

 

[voerman]

To be honest, with my painting, I have days when I spend an hour just staring at the painting I am working on.
I don't even notice and suddenly it is 4 PM and I haven't picked up the brush since lunch at 2 PM.

Of course I do not have a patreon and am not collecting money from anyone. And I try to be extra productive during the productive hours to even things out, but mentally I can be equally exhausted from those hours staring as from the hours painting.

The unproductive parts are part of the process. But one should try to keep a good balance.

And no painting takes me years to complete.

 

[Marlin Brandy]

At this point I would not be against Crush using some sort of generative AI writing tool to speed up his writing process. He could use it as a first draft, then edit around it. I fully understand if one of his biggest issues is writer's block looking at a blank page. I have the same problem. At least this would be a solution to that.

 

[okokok]

The main issue is he said he was polishing a month ago when he still had so much else left to do. That was taking the piss

 

[rbx4]

I don't usually engage in discussions like this because there's no need and it's not helpful. We already know where crush needs to be.

What is helpful is waiting for the release. Then comparing it with what he had 1 month ago when he could have released. Based on that comparison we can then all offer some truth and opinion.

1) was the editing worth the 4 weeks of delays
2) why was the game in such a poor release state after 3 months, requiring 1 month of editing
3) how can crush improve so that he edits faster
4) how can crush improve so he makes the initial game content faster allowing him to spend 1 month on editing

I still think the major issue is that it took him 3 months to make the game content instead of 2 months. If it took 2 months then 1 month of polish and editing wouldn't seem that bad because he would be within the 3 month update cycle rather than 4 month one.

Impossible to know without more information that is not forthcoming. I would not worry about it. I would also be willing to bet that suggestions are not *truly welcome, but that they would instead be greeted with rather obvious sarcasm.

 

[rbx4]

He said he will release the update he had July 6th, and the one he has now, so people can tell him if it was worth the 4 weeks of editing or not.

I would not expect many to say anything different from what they have already been saying for years.

 

[Vargynja]

I would not expect many to say anything different from what they have already been saying for years.

That's what makes them/us a shitty community, not Crush a bad developer. Feedback is never a bad thing unless the developer specifically asks for the opposite.

 

[rbx4]

That's what makes them/us a shitty community, not Crush a bad developer. Feedback is never a bad thing unless the developer specifically asks for the opposite.

Point taken about the first clause, although I was also going in another direction. I think that many people self-identify with a certain position by this point, and that it would take something staggering to make them say something that disagrees with the box that they have drawn around themselves.

 

[Cuerv0]

The problem is that we are very hopeful and with so much waiting the hype is rising and in the end it will not arrive because we have it too high, not because it is not good.

 

[DashaTaran]

soon soon soon soon soon

 

[slavegal]

The problem is that we are very hopeful and with so much waiting the hype is rising and in the end it will not arrive because we have it too high, not because it is not good.

The only issue here is: the dev missed the deadline ... several times, over and over again. That is highly unprofessional and disrespectful in any developmental manner. So it is totally reasonable for players to be suspicious. I did not intend to comment until I saw the paid reviews lecture players hilariously: "It's your own fault for your disappointment, and missing the deadline is good" I am wondering where is common sense and fundamental sense of morality.

Partially, it's right; you players should learn this: you don't get to anticipate because this is an amateur project that comes with more paid reviews than professional code, according to those paid reviews. Actually, such an argument equals "it is your fault to fund such an amateur project". If you didn't waste your money on several weeks' delay, then why bother with disappointment based on anticipation? Ture.

 

[Lurker1001]

The only issue here is: the dev missed the deadline ... several times, over and over again. That is highly unprofessional and disrespectful in any developmental manner. So it is totally reasonable for players to be suspicious. I did not intend to comment until I saw the paid reviews lecture players hilariously: "It's your own fault for your disappointment, and missing the deadline is good" I am wondering where is common sense and fundamental sense of morality.

Partially, it's right; you players should learn this: you don't get to anticipate because this is an amateur project according to those paid reviews. Actually, such an argument equals "it is your fault to fund such an amateur project". If you didn't waste your money on several weeks' delay, then why bother with disappointment based on anticipation? Ture.

I mean... money talks and bullshit walks. Any Patreon who feels that they are getting shafted can stop at anytime. If the dev starts hemorrhaging patreons then they may pick it up. If not... no (further) loss to those who left.

This seems like a self correcting problem in all honesty.

 

[slavegal]

I mean... money talks and bullshit walks. Any Patreon who feels that they are getting shafted can stop at anytime. If the dev starts hemorrhaging patreons then they may pick it up. If not... no (further) loss to those who left.

This seems like a self correcting problem in all honesty.

Anyway, it isn't my point; I just interpreted those hilarious justifications for missing the deadline.

 

[I-No]

If they are hilarious (which they are) why not just have a good laugh and go on? There are many strange people but most of them seem to gather online...

 

[restlez]

A pastime for some, there may be kicks to be had for pointing stuff out

 

[Takkatakka]

I mean...I really like the game so far (never played the old version) and I really like the writing and in the end the has to know for himself if it will work out for him and his supporter can decide for themselves to support him or stop supporting him.

Then again...Caribdis took from...I think mid. February to the end of July for a sizeable update and he has massive amounts of characters all beautifully rendered, complex animations and so on in that upgrade AND great writing...

 

[boobthief]

massive amounts of characters all beautifully rendered, complex animations and so on in that upgrade AND great writing...

If only the talented artist in Female Agent could figure out how to use Honey Select...

 

[restlez]

I get your point. There will be the defenders to these games that have amassed huge monthly subscriptions. But I'm not sure if all of them are paid trolls. There are people who will spew stupid reasons vehemently in the name of defending their belief. We see that out there not only on the internet.