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Wouldn't taking down that dude also result in everything in the bar falling apart? Perhaps it should just stick to her doing the same shit but in whatever home country the player has chosen.
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From what I remember, we never had a Female Agent version in which the agent is the second undercover agent sent by the organization. The other girl was just a bargirl that was recruited by another agent. She got some money and possibly the promise of a better life back in Germany, he got some intel. Nevertheless, at some point they lost the asset, but they don't know why (it's up to you to find out what happened). They could send someone else in and try to turn another girl, but there is a limited amount of information that can be extracted from such an operation. Hence they send our own agent.
Regarding the clubs scenes from Scotland - I disagree and think that what we have right now is the far better version of the game. The way the game is written let's you think that it could happen in real life. It is more easy to believe that CIA will send someone undercover in a bar in what they think is a safe position vs "ok so we need you to fuck 10 guys here, around 200 during your mission and will also do a porn movie, just to be sure that you got a good story".
I agree that the first interview with Connor could have been handled differently (I wrote a more detailed comment about that some time ago). Same for the big boss dinner and chill. The agent was forced into sex in the first 2 days spent undercover. And now she freaks out from a BJ even though, everyone knew that she did more. Ok is a civilian, it won't get her any intel or leverage but she didn't choose to do it. She was forced to do it. The Agency will understand. But suddenly is such a big point that she is seen sucking a dick on camera. Actually the dick is not even that important, the tipping point is the action done on camera. Probably she wouldn't have stressed so much if the agency didn't watched her every move.
Develfish is just a customer - from what we know. If he dies tomorrow, the bar will keep doing what it is doing.
Yeah, I'm not say this game isn't flawed, obviously it is. Saying that, Crush is trying to write it to have some sense of realism.
There is an assumption that Kate isn't a whore going in... You CAN NOT get into the CIA if you have that history as an analyst. I wouldn't be surprised if the other government agencies would be similar since government agencies tend to be conservative.
So assuming Kate hasn't been a whore, there is going to be fucking trauma EVEN if she is sex positive. Can that trauma be small? Yeah, a more sexually liberated person will tolerate it more, or a more detached black widow type can suppress it more but it is still there. Should the trauma scene be after the the first time your boss rapes you? I think so, but having it here can makes sense too. I could see someone suppressing that trauma and each time she is forced to have sex with someone it gets harder to suppress until she cracks. Could it be written better? Absolutely.
What I don't see is a person who cares about their reputation going Turbo whore in front of their coworkers and having zero emotional complications from it. Look at it internally, do you think you would be ok with selling your body to a man the first time and not be troubled by it? Especially if your coworkers know and will look down upon you for it, even if it was for the greater good? If any of you of you say Yes, well I'm calling you all a liar who do. Kate here in the story is no different. You can get used to it, but that acknowledges that there is a resistance, that it's unpleasant. Now that a breakdown has happened she can come to acceptance and get used to it.
In the end this scene is going to be rewritten because of all the hate over it LOL, I'm curious how it going to be changed.
There is an assumption that Kate isn't a whore going in... You CAN NOT get into the CIA if you have that history as an analyst. I wouldn't be surprised if the other government agencies would be similar since government agencies tend to be conservative.
So assuming Kate hasn't been a whore, there is going to be fucking trauma EVEN if she is sex positive. Can that trauma be small? Yeah, a more sexually liberated person will tolerate it more, or a more detached black widow type can suppress it more but it is still there. Should the trauma scene be after the the first time your boss rapes you? I think so, but having it here can makes sense too. I could see someone suppressing that trauma and each time she is forced to have sex with someone it gets harder to suppress until she cracks. Could it be written better? Absolutely.
What I don't see is a person who cares about their reputation going Turbo whore in front of their coworkers and having zero emotional complications from it. Look at it internally, do you think you would be ok with selling your body to a man the first time and not be troubled by it? Especially if your coworkers know and will look down upon you for it, even if it was for the greater good? If any of you of you say Yes, well I'm calling you all a liar who do. Kate here in the story is no different. You can get used to it, but that acknowledges that there is a resistance, that it's unpleasant. Now that a breakdown has happened she can come to acceptance and get used to it.
In the end this scene is going to be rewritten because of all the hate over it LOL, I'm curious how it going to be changed.
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Seriously? This is a game about a girl sent undercover at a stripclub/brothel (with an entirely male clientele) looking for a male terrorist. Seems highly unlikely that lesbian only will be a possibility.
Having a preference for straight women, I'm hopeful that any lesbian content will be avoidable.
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It would be possible, just change Connor for one of the madams from the Club. But that's the main problem right now, there are no branching paths. You are railroaded into Connor - old geezer - Kob/vomit. A route in which your Agent avoids being fucked by everyone should be mandatory, like a real undercover agent.
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If the dev wanted realism, then I'm pretty sure the CIA or any government agency wouldn't be stupid enough to think that bar is anywhere near a "safe position" for an agent. If the dev wanted realism, then the CIA would likely have many other ways of finding said devilfish. Pretty sure they have a long list of experienced people to do this kind of shit at a moment's notice. Definitely isn't unheard of that agencies like the CIA and such have done some fucked up shit in the past. Getting someone to go undercover and pose as a prostitute is nowhere near as bad as some of the shit they've done before.
Either way, this whole argument goes out of the window when you remember that one scene where the prince of darkness or whatever specifically tells her that she wasn't the first nor last to do this type of work. So clearly, at least in that universe, they've done that type of shit countless times in the past and are more than comfortable to keep doing it in the future too.
There's simply no way to excuse them sending someone as inexperienced as the agent to do this mission, realism or not. How is this more realistic?
(Side note: I don't recall any mention of a porn movie in the previous version I played, tf did that come from?Lol )
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If I remember correctly, during your training in Scotland you would participate in a strip tease/wet T-shirt contest or something. If you won and were up for it, you would go backstage where they would fuck you and record everything for their version of "girls gone wild".
The main problem with what we have is that there's no good explanation for the strength of her reaction, given what she has done before, and almost as importantly, there are no alternative paths (being one of the girls/doing it for the mission/milder reluctance/being OK with it until she realises she has an audience etc.)
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Ah, I remember. But that was optional, no? You didn't need to do that for the cover story.
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"Easily" Not with this dev, apparently. Plus if you want more "content" then you should probably look elsewhere. The guy took who knows how long for a damn 15 minute update, what makes you think any of the future scenes are going to even remotely good if he "rushes" them?
Changing Connor to a woman isn't going to do anything to the fact MC will be fucking droves of men in search of the one with the missing testicle.
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I have no idea who that Prince of Darkness is or from what universe does he come from. Regarding the agent, why do you say that she is inexperienced. She finished her training with good grades, worked from an office for a bit and so far she handles herself well during spy mission. Inexperienced in terms of sex? Well I guess not every women is a whore, especially not those that receive a good education, that are ambitious and have a good moral compass.
Anyway you liked that the extended Scotland training version more and that is ok. For me, the current version is better, offers more realism and even from the story perspective is not as boring. It gives you a feeling of progression: please your boss, please your boss's boss, get close to the other girls and become more like them and so on. If she would go in as a bargirl from day one, we would get some MF sex scenes, maybe a few MFM and at some you'd realized that is a boring story.
Unfortunately is not that easy. The game files are a mess. Content from previous versions can still be found in the current one and by previous I mean the life path. Crush never went back to fix not even the smallest things in older updates (for example character profiles). Queen Vic could have created a few more clothes for the bargirls for the first 2 or 3 nights you spend in the club. Fixing it later would also mean to be extra careful with what to do and test things properly. But after 4 months, even in a small update we got a version with a broken link (when the new girl returns from the street with Steph), a dead end when you talk with Ian ("I had a moment but now I am ok") and a continuity problem with the way Steph looks (the turtle tattoo is gone). There are not even that many paths - how could you miss all this?
It's also funny that he wasted I don't know how many weeks to rewrite the BJ scenes, just to push a shorter version out. In the OG version, Kate would get slapped by Steph, would receive more instructions about what to do and you even get to deep throat the guy. Also at the end the kiss is longer and the reason why she starts loosing it in the bathroom is described better: ok - they've seen me with Connor, but this feels different, I've done stuff that I've seen only in porn and I got payed for it.
Maybe it was a PR stunt: you push a bad version, get some negative comments and later you bring back the longer version. And that ladies and gentlemen is how you build up your reputation as a dev that listens, that tries to improve stuff and works 80h a week on something that can be sketched in a day and written in a week.
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I'm reasonably familiar with the source, although I just look at, don't really use Twine.
Avatar image list is arrays displayed as absolutely positioned layers... not sure if you're just not seeing it but Dev Tools in your browser and:
JavaScript:
SugarCube.State.variables.avatar.body
SugarCube.State.variables.avatar.underwear
SugarCube.State.variables.avatar.clothing
etc.
HTML:
<<widget "avatar">>
...
<<for _i to 0; _i lt $avatar.clothing.length ; _i++>>
...No idea what you mean about creating a store and using a single code base. Like updating state in React + Redux? Single code base? There's some evidence in code comments that some of the developers are compiling e.g.
// import initAvatar from './scripts/avatar' but I wouldn't consider that a separate codebase. Guessing you didn't see:
HTML:
<tw-passagedata...>>
<<header>>
<<page>>
...Yeah, the main writer is probably using the Twine IDE. It's pretty obvious, if you look, that there have been other developers working on the game. I wouldn't be so quick to shit on their abilities and code if I were you... don't cast the first stone.
Their game works. It looks good. People want more. They massively don't care about our code review discussion.
If there's one thing that Crush likes doing it's editing, am I right?!
Disagreeing with 'There is very little actual coding needed'. Sorry, the quoting on F95 only seems to do one level of quotes.
Fiddling to add complexity when you should rewrite the avatar code. Except you shouldn't because it's super good enough.
Would I rewrite it to solve bigger issues like images loading async or not at all? Only if people stopped paying me money because of this.
Without intending any offense whatsoever, I'm guessing you don't have decades of experience in web development? In my experience, if something complicated works good enough you learn to leave it TF alone and focus on something productive.
Sounds great! I'm guessing they're just exporting from Illustrator and programmatically modifying SVGs is more than they want to deal with. But if you want to work for free, why not volunteer your time? =)
Except for a vocal minority of Patreon simps, nobody thinks they shouldn't have put out more content this release. And I don't think it's the code quality or assets conversion workflow that is holding them back.
Keyword being "so far". People who are asking for "lesbian only" route presumably want it for the whole game rather than "si far" and the basic premise is simply incompatible with this.
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There is no reason to not include different routes, otherwise this would be a kinetic novel.
If you want to play the cum bucket route that's fine, others may want to play other routes.
If a route doesn't make sense given the basic premise of the game then it's a very good reason not to include it.
People may want a lot of things, it doesn't mean the game has to bend over backward to please them all. If they want a drastically different experience they're free to look for it in a different game.
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The initial premise were to go undercover as bargirl. But he changed it, and by now it would absolutely make sense to have a route where she only works at the bar and uses other girls for intel.
The actual initial premise was for the agent to be sent undecover as a hooker. Then, after people objected it'd be way over the top for intelligence agency to effectively sent an agent to work as a hooker from the get go it was changed to a bargirl, but there's absolutely intention the entire time to reach this initial/final setup, just at slower pace.
To claim it'd absolutely make sense for what's ultimately a porn game to provide a route where people can skip the sex stuff because they can't stand the idea of their MC taking a dick is... bizarre, to say the least. As would be complaining the game doesn't accommodate them and how it's nothing but a kinetic novel because of it.