Aillor Nailo

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A question to all of you that have played this:
Are all the make-up choices, clothing choices etc essential?
Or would it have been just fine (like other VNs) that the "author" decides what she wears before each activity (or limited user based choices)?

What I would like to know is if it is a deal breaker or not.
 

IjjKpoe

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A question to all of you that have played this:
Are all the make-up choices, clothing choices etc essential?
Or would it have been just fine (like other VNs) that the "author" decides what she wears before each activity (or limited user based choices)?

What I would like to know is if it is a deal breaker or not.
It's vital for the development of any mission that you choose the correct outfit and make up.

It's not the same to infiltrate in a drug cartel/prostitution ring in Thai with a burgundy dress instead of the black one with V neck with the galaxy blush.
 

Aillor Nailo

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It's vital for the development of any mission that you choose the correct outfit and make up.

It's not the same to infiltrate in a drug cartel/prostitution ring in Thai with a burgundy dress instead of the black one with V neck with the galaxy blush.
I did not mean the story. I meant if anyone cared or not that you yourself could change for example eyeliner in the gui etc.
 

Prawnstar69

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I did not mean the story. I meant if anyone cared or not that you yourself could change for example eyeliner in the gui etc.
I'm going to assume you are being serious, and say that there are some among his Patreons that agree with whatever God Emperor Crush wants. Effectively, because Crush thinks his audience NEEDS to know how a child would grow to lose their V card, and play Barbie dress up I guess it must be so.

TBH, precious few options change the dialogue at all, such as one version 2 reboots ago where bouncer would comment if Kate was big titted and braless. Haven't found anything else that changes, and I hope you know the burgundy dress thing was a joke.

So in conclusion, if you want to know if clothing options are deal breakers, then I guess we must assume we know the main demographic for this porn game - are they mostly girls aged 3-12 who love Barbie, or adult males? If the latter, then I would be confident saying we are here for dress up, just the undressing parts.

On the bright side, apparently Crush is going to start giving regular updates for the first time since 2017. I applaud a small step in the right direction, but whether it's dress up or lifepath, only an idiot would argue these are more essential for the majority than coherent main story.
 

IjjKpoe

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I did not mean the story. I meant if anyone cared or not that you yourself could change for example eyeliner in the gui etc.
Anything in this game is not essential. Anything you can customize it's purely optional and could be ignored completely. The only thing that "matters" it's what boob size you choose so a SINGLE dialog "changes" slightly.

So no, it's not essencial in game and i don't think it's a "deal breaker" for his Zombie followers. I mean... who plays a porn game to dress up someone? The point isn't... the opposite?
 
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Aillor Nailo

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Thank you for the responses. To code all that clothing, the layers, what could affect other items etc must have taken the developer a lot of time. Also all the images must take a while to do.

I would have been fine with not having any choice in the clothes department, that "Kate" choose herself, but I wanted input from others that play. You all could have said "That is the unique USP for this game, that is what really sets it apart, I love it".

Is the initial "create character" also not needed? It's where you set her up with hair color, style, face shape, nose shape etc?
I'm asking for a friend that may or may not be thinking of creating a renpy fan/altered version....
 

Vibesy

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Thank you for the responses. To code all that clothing, the layers, what could affect other items etc must have taken the developer a lot of time. Also all the images must take a while to do.

I would have been fine with not having any choice in the clothes department, that "Kate" choose herself, but I wanted input from others that play. You all could have said "That is the unique USP for this game, that is what really sets it apart, I love it".

Is the initial "create character" also not needed? It's where you set her up with hair color, style, face shape, nose shape etc?
I'm asking for a friend that may or may not be thinking of creating a renpy fan/altered version....
If your friend is going to rebuild FA in renpy, I would suggest he come up with a different avatar for his game. The current avatar looks completely wrong and misplaced for the theme. I prefer the earlier avatar, which was younger/sexier and a more credible look for someone liable to become a bargirl. The bottom line though is the art adds pretty much nothing to the FA story. Despite what the dev thinks, this isn't The Sims.
 
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orellion

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Thank you for the responses. To code all that clothing, the layers, what could affect other items etc must have taken the developer a lot of time. Also all the images must take a while to do.

I would have been fine with not having any choice in the clothes department, that "Kate" choose herself, but I wanted input from others that play. You all could have said "That is the unique USP for this game, that is what really sets it apart, I love it".

Is the initial "create character" also not needed? It's where you set her up with hair color, style, face shape, nose shape etc?
I'm asking for a friend that may or may not be thinking of creating a renpy fan/altered version....
I suggest a "spiritual successor" if you are serious.
 

Aillor Nailo

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I understand now why the game is progressing at a slow pace. 5 different agencies makes every line 5 times as time consuming to write. He hasn't made life easy for him I can say that.

I'm using this to learn Renpy and it very much immediately pushes everything to 11.
Would anyone really object if 5 agencies became MI6 only (she is Jane Bond, isn't she)?
Otherwise I might have to look at using languages or another smarter way of "localizing" texts. Writing if-sections like I do now is very time consuming. Any tips?

Could you elaborate on the "spiritual successor"? What do you want to change?
I will change the rape by Whats-His-Name because my Kate is smarter than that. But other then that I haven't really thought of other changes to the story at the moment. So if you have any, please tell.
 

Aillor Nailo

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Sep 12, 2020
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If your friend is going to rebuild FA in renpy, I would suggest he come up with a different avatar for his game. The current avatar looks completely wrong and misplaced for the theme. I prefer the earlier avatar, which was younger/sexier and a more credible look for someone liable to become a bargirl. The bottom line though is the art adds pretty much nothing to the FA story. Despite what the dev thinks, this isn't The Sims.
Are those images still in the images folder of the game or has he replaced them?
Currently I'm working with the images that are in the latest version.
 

Senor Smut

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I understand now why the game is progressing at a slow pace. 5 different agencies makes every line 5 times as time consuming to write. He hasn't made life easy for him I can say that.

I'm using this to learn Renpy and it very much immediately pushes everything to 11.
Would anyone really object if 5 agencies became MI6 only (she is Jane Bond, isn't she)?
Otherwise I might have to look at using languages or another smarter way of "localizing" texts. Writing if-sections like I do now is very time consuming. Any tips?

Could you elaborate on the "spiritual successor"? What do you want to change?
I will change the rape by Whats-His-Name because my Kate is smarter than that. But other then that I haven't really thought of other changes to the story at the moment. So if you have any, please tell.
It's five times the work for certain small passages, but the great majority of the text is the same for every nationality. Since the majority of the game's players are American, there would probably be discontent if the CIA were cut -- but every time Crush engages in pointless delays or goes radio silent there's discontent. Not that he cares, because his hard core of supporters will still support him no matter what he does (or more accurately, consistently fails to do).
 

Senor Smut

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Before you get too far down this road, Crush is planning to license the paper doll. That means he is likely to be zealous in defending the right to use it. If you don't want problems, I'd recommend either inquire with him about licensing it, or just use something else.
 

Prawnstar69

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Nice. You might want to check out the competition -
Blue Swallow - Lifepath and engine
Girl Spy - if / when Lobster comes back to it
Masters of Raana - completely unrelated, just showcasing what can be done in HTML

As for what is essential IMHO, it's back to your core audience: I'm going to assume mainly adults readers because it's a text based adult game. So what's absolutely essential is a hot CYOA, everything else is window dressing and remember you can always come back with DLC.

Point is, seems you are aware the impact of branching choices and adding too many of them. Learn from Crush's continued mistakes, and map this shit out right to the end. You don't need a novel yet, but you do need a skeleton to know you can feasibly reach an ending if you want a complete tag.

End of the day, I feel the best game any team can make is a complete and stable one. Good luck!
 

Vibesy

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Are those images still in the images folder of the game or has he replaced them?
Currently I'm working with the images that are in the latest version.
At some point the paperdoll was replaced. You would have to check the previous versions, maybe 1.63. It was lower quality, but more believable to me. The problem with the current avatar is that "Kate" doesn't look remotely credible as someone who would get hired as a Bangkok bargirl. If that avatar was engaged in sex work, she would be a high-level call girl or maybe a Moulin Rouge dancer. Possibly a dominatrix. But not a $50 hooker in Bangkok.
 

LowLevelLesser

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Nice. You might want to check out the competition -
Blue Swallow - Lifepath and engine
Girl Spy - if / when Lobster comes back to it
Masters of Raana - completely unrelated, just showcasing what can be done in HTML

As for what is essential IMHO, it's back to your core audience: I'm going to assume mainly adults readers because it's a text based adult game. So what's absolutely essential is a hot CYOA, everything else is window dressing and remember you can always come back with DLC.

Point is, seems you are aware the impact of branching choices and adding too many of them. Learn from Crush's continued mistakes, and map this shit out right to the end. You don't need a novel yet, but you do need a skeleton to know you can feasibly reach an ending if you want a complete tag.

End of the day, I feel the best game any team can make is a complete and stable one. Good luck!
Blue Swallow is STILL messing around with the prologue... but it's quite good.
 

Rover55

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So I downloaded it to avoid long waiting for these location announcement images in the onlinve version. Even in offline it still takes some time to load them :HideThePain:
 
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