Thanks Dbat. I really like your ideas – thanks for taking the time to suggest them. I think you're right that the world needs to respond to the player's choices. We've started on this path with the game's Reputation system and will expand on it in the future.
I definitely do need to work more efficiently. This is the first piece of software I've ever released and I'm learning a lot of things as I go. Thanks for the support, DM, without the Patrons I would have given up on this ages ago.
Firstly, thank you for the $100, I truly appreciate it. I'm sorry that the development is so slow – I'm still trying to figure out how to speed it up!
Yeah, good observation! One solution to this will be the Red Wa, the gangsters who "protect" the red light district. By making them a real threat (through the Suspicion and Stress mechanics we're planning to introduce in Bangkok), we aim to create a story environment where it feels realistic for the agent to consider doing things that will harm her future career (like get the Stupid Whore tramp stamp tattoo that @DbatRT suggested)...just to throw off suspicion that she's more than she claims to be.
We're planning for the game to have a tailored epilogue for those who complete the mission successfully. Some agents will find it possible to return their agency as a heroine, others will find themselves too badly burned to be useful.
Thanks, Kymico, I'm really pleased you like what's there. :happyblush I personally can't wait to push the story forward. The architectural changes we're making now are laying the foundation for faster, easier and more interesting updates.
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This explains a lot. I know how much time it takes to find information and only then study.
In fact, when I worked as a freelancer, and I came across projects where new knowledge was required for their implementation, I had to inform the customer about this and include extra time in the technical project for my training. This is normal practice.
Just warn people about it, that it takes a lot of time to learn.
Alleykatt
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To be honest, I am not convinced by the Lifepath stuff. I think in part this is because I have formed a rather definite view of who she is at the start of the mission, so now earlier content jars with that somewhat. Ideally I would rather have a pure, dedicated agent who has worked hard and sacrificed to get to where she is in MI6 (or equivalent). This is because the fall in Bangkok becomes more impactful. But then the Lifepath will either force me to move away from that rather nerdy boring vision, or else make me miss content. So I am not sure if it fits.
On the other hand, I will definitely try it, and may be very pleasantly surprised!
On the other hand, I will definitely try it, and may be very pleasantly surprised!
Hey Alley, that's really interesting! Can you tell me a bit more about your vision for the character?
I love this game, any idea on the timeline in dev when we will get to bangkok?
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I haven't seen any of the Lifepath stuff yet, other than the public posts on Patreon, but I have long thought that a pretty high level of promiscuity really needs to be a requirement to even accept the job, at least as it's currently defined. I mean, if they just were pitching that she had to be a stripper, it's believable, but an actual prostitute is a bit much unless she already has an extremely casual attitude about sex.
So, when I was in college, I went through a phase where I thought it would be really cool to be a spy. And nooooo Sydney Bristow had absolutely nothing to do with that... So anyway, one of the things I pondered was, if I was a covert operative, could I sleep with someone as part of the job. I decided that I probably could if it was really important. If I got the pitch they give in the game, however, I'd nope the heck right out of that room.
It's probably way too late in the process to change, but I really do think it would work better from a narrative standpoint if the job were pitched as working at a strip club, and she'd have to seduce the target. So they tell her upfront that it's common for the strippers to have sex with the customers, but she only has to sleep with the ultimate target. Maybe when she gets there, however, sleeping with the clientele is more "encouraged" than she was led to believe. It could either be bad intel, or otherwise she was deliberately misled when given the mission. We already know (or at least suspect) that the psychiatrist is a bit shady.
So then this ties in with the whole corruption theme. Just how far is she willing to go? The more she declines to sleep with patrons, the greater her suspicion rises. Sleeping with patrons, however, increases corruption and stress. Being promiscuous in the Lifepath section, however, lowers (or maybe at high enough levels eliminates) the stress increase.
So, when I was in college, I went through a phase where I thought it would be really cool to be a spy. And nooooo Sydney Bristow had absolutely nothing to do with that... So anyway, one of the things I pondered was, if I was a covert operative, could I sleep with someone as part of the job. I decided that I probably could if it was really important. If I got the pitch they give in the game, however, I'd nope the heck right out of that room.
It's probably way too late in the process to change, but I really do think it would work better from a narrative standpoint if the job were pitched as working at a strip club, and she'd have to seduce the target. So they tell her upfront that it's common for the strippers to have sex with the customers, but she only has to sleep with the ultimate target. Maybe when she gets there, however, sleeping with the clientele is more "encouraged" than she was led to believe. It could either be bad intel, or otherwise she was deliberately misled when given the mission. We already know (or at least suspect) that the psychiatrist is a bit shady.
So then this ties in with the whole corruption theme. Just how far is she willing to go? The more she declines to sleep with patrons, the greater her suspicion rises. Sleeping with patrons, however, increases corruption and stress. Being promiscuous in the Lifepath section, however, lowers (or maybe at high enough levels eliminates) the stress increase.
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I think it is probably pretty hard to get picked as a secret agent. They will only take the best, and someone who makes themselves the best has probably not had a typical childhood. I am imagining a girl show is an only child. Her mother has died when she is young (12ish) so it is only her and her father. This has resulted in a desire for older men since he was such a focus in her life. She took over the usual (non-sexual) wife roles in the house, but was also rather booking and concentrated on her studies. Indeed her stubborness and slight OCD also led to her excelling as a track athlete, which together with her studies left little time for a social life. She won several track events and then went to Oxford on a Scholarship to read Asian Studies. During her university, as a way to build strength and endurance for the track, she got into martial arts, found a talent for it, and started competing. She graduated top of her class and won several kick-boxing tournaments. This caught the eye of MI6 recruiters and she became an agent, now focussed, with her particular single mindedness on becoming the best agent in MI6. I think it is that drive, that willingness to challenge herslef that led to her accepting the mission. It is her drive, her beauty, her familiarity with Asia and her intelligence that led them to choose her.
Not much sex there though. Maybe she can have an affair with her professor.
That is really great feedback, thank you.
I am happy to report that your exact character background should be possible in v1 of the Lifepath.I really enjoyed this when I played it, and have been waiting for more. Any idea of planned fetishes?
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Version 1.3.6.5 is out, but it's a disappointment in the sense that it's just more bug fixes, and no comtinuance of the story. I really love the game, but I am getting a wee bit impatient to see something new. As Confucius once said 'Man who walk through trurnstiles sideways going to Bangkok." I wish the game would get there. Maybe in another year?
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Sept 20, 2018 update report:
It turns out that my estimate of 86% was optimistic. In fact, only 38%of the screens are done. There's still a lot of work to do before release. :-(
I’m really sorry to have overestimated the progress.
More than two months without a real update, and now the guy says that. He's making about 2.800 $ per month in Patreon and there are fanboys here that attack as rabid dogs every single criticism about the game. There are things I simply can't understand... Or maybe understand too well when I remember what F. Schiller said about "the very Gods themselves"...
It turns out that my estimate of 86% was optimistic. In fact, only 38%of the screens are done. There's still a lot of work to do before release. :-(
I’m really sorry to have overestimated the progress.
More than two months without a real update, and now the guy says that. He's making about 2.800 $ per month in Patreon and there are fanboys here that attack as rabid dogs every single criticism about the game. There are things I simply can't understand... Or maybe understand too well when I remember what F. Schiller said about "the very Gods themselves"...
Dude, if you can help me deliver the game faster I'm happy to share the $2800 with you.Sept 20, 2018 update report:
It turns out that my estimate of 86% was optimistic. In fact, only 38%of the screens are done. There's still a lot of work to do before release. :-(
I’m really sorry to have overestimated the progress.
More than two months without a real update, and now the guy says that. He's making about 2.800 $ per month in Patreon and there are fanboys here that attack as rabid dogs every single criticism about the game. There are things I simply can't understand... Or maybe understand too well when I remember what F. Schiller said about "the very Gods themselves"...
Doing my best!
My hope is that the systems we're building now will make future updates a lot quicker and easier.
- Prostitution
- Slutty clothes
- Ongoing corruption in a degrading environment
- Group sex
- Girl/girl
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It's good to see that you admit that you need help to deliver the game. Actually, it's something pretty obvious since you admit that you have overestimate your progress in almost 50 percentage points.
I'm afraid I can't accept your offer, because I'm not an erodev, but I'm pretty sure that there are people with the necessary skills and experience that could accept the job for a fair wage. I suggest you to announce in this forum and in your Patreon page that you are hiring and also the details of the offer, and wait for candidates.