Recommending Female domination Games

[Aseratrix]

^I personally am very simple. There is a lot of kinks/fetishes that can utilize femdom, but for me femdom is really just anytime the woman is in charge and dictating how things go. Like, I'm not overly huge on "femdom" used as an excuse to just give the guy as many orgasms as possible while giving her zero pleasure, but like if shes doing what she genuinely wants and is in charge its femdom. The other stuff is all extra flavors. I know its a terrible analogy due to the terms used in this genre, but if femdom as I see it can be considered vanilla ice cream, adding BDSM, Humiliation, ABDL, etc. is like chocolate, strawberry, mint, etc. its all ice cream, but different varieties. (also I really don't mean to re-boot the whole philosophical "what is femdom" topic, we did that. I'm just saying, femdom is pretty simple at its core, there is just 100's of flavors we can all enjoy, while some is preferable than others to each of us, we're all here for the same icecream party)

Except - as we previously had this before in this thread - if she bottoms from the top <- thats NOT femdom, you know a sub female can also direct you to do this or that to her, but that would be the exact opposite of femdom. Being in charge has to have some recognizable features, otherwise its meaningless. The female must not merely be in charge, but dominate, be dominant.

I ad hoc define femdom like this: domination by females in an erotic context, where the female is ALWAYS respected. Domination can take on many forms and the focus must be on the gratification, adoration and glorification of the female and that should constitute the pleasure of the sub. And the needs of the male's cock under no circumstances should play the leading role.

I completely agree about this: "I'm not overly huge on "femdom" used as an excuse to just give the guy as many orgasms as possible while giving her zero pleasure..."

That's why I don't understand the majority of the "succubuses" on this site. Somehow they can't help wanting to suck your cock, which in my book is a submissive activity, not an activity of a demoness of Lillith's rebellious spirit. They should kick your ass, step on you, sit on your face, spit in your mouth and force you to lick them to orgasm at minimum, not playing with your cock, unless its CBT, lol ...Most of these succubuses are "wild" only in the cheap vanilla porn meaning, that is, they are wildly wanting to serve you, which makes no sense as femdom whatsoever.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

Except - as we previously had this before in this thread - if she bottoms from the top <- thats NOT femdom, you know a sub

^Just saying, but if she's bottoming, then shes not the one controlling and dictating the pace...I think that was clear? I'm stating exactly this criteria: The woman is in control and dictating what happens and how. At no point did I mention them taking a bottom/being commanded thing. I mean yeah, you can be getting pegged but still telling her how to do it and controlling the situation, that's not femdom. The two criteria I'm suggesting, for me, is the barest minimum and yet also most important factors for determining if something is femdom. Whatever the activity is, she has to be dictating and controlling it. You don't get a blowjob or get to eat her out or whatever just because you ask or think that's your form of worship. If you are eating her out and treating her as a "goddess" but she herself doesn't want that, the dynamic is already flawed.

 

[Aseratrix]

^Just saying, but if she's bottoming, then shes not the one controlling and dictating the pace...I think that was clear? I'm stating exactly this criteria: The woman is in control and dictating what happens and how. At no point did I mention them taking a bottom/being commanded thing. I mean yeah, you can be getting pegged but still telling her how to do it and controlling the situation, that's not femdom. The two criteria I'm suggesting, for me, is the barest minimum and yet also most important factors for determining if something is femdom. Whatever the activity is, she has to be dictating and controlling it. You don't get a blowjob or get to eat her out or whatever just because you ask or think that's your form of worship. If you are eating her out and treating her as a "goddess" but she herself doesn't want that, the dynamic is already flawed.

Obviously if a woman does not want to be treated as a goddess, or does not want to dominate you, then you'd simply have no femdom. You wouldn't force it on her, but either do something else than femdom together, or walk away.

Bottoming from the top is done by a bad submissive, never a dominant person. It means that the sumissive instructs the dominant how he or she wants to be dominated.

Femdom means fem+dom = female dominates you. Not you dominating her on request. The latter would render the difference between femdom and maledom meaningless, also would render meaningless the dom/sub difference.

I guess we have a semantic problem ....or I am just tired. If I am not making sense, guys let me know. I hope I do.

Edit: after I read it 3 times, I guess I agree with your comment, lol...I am tired. Nevermind me...off to bed.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

Obviously if a woman does not want to be treated as a goddess, or does not want to dominate you, then you'd simply have no femdom. You wouldn't force it on her, but either do something else than femdom together, or walk away.

Bottoming from the top is done by a bad submissive, never a dominant person. It means that the sumissive instructs the dominant how he or she wants to be dominated.

Femdom means fem+dom = female dominates you. Not you dominating her on request. The latter would render the difference between femdom and maledom meaningless, also would render meaningless the dom/sub difference.

I guess we have a semantic problem ....or I am just tired. If I am not making sense, guys let me know. I hope I do.

Edit: after I read it 3 times, I guess I agree with your comment, lol...I am tired. Nevermind me...off to bed.

Erm, we're agreeing on the principles of it, you're just not understanding. Its not like I don't agree with what you're saying, you're kinda putting things in a way I'm not saying at all though. Like I said, I'm super simplifying it. I agree with what you're saying, its just you're trying to fine-tune/go way deeper than what I'm intending. Also there is a lot of dommes who get "worshiped" but its not how they want it to be, its usually because of very selfish subs (I brought up not that she doesn't want to be a domme, just that the sub goes "Yes mistress", when in fact A LOT of dommes think its very rude and vexing when someone they barely know calls them that). Again, I agree, thats not a femdom situation, thats just being kind of hedonist asshat that is pushing for how they want the the relationship to be, not the domme's feelings. Again, it breaks down to: she is in control, dictating the direction of everything. If shes not, then its not femdom. I'm not trying to argue what is/isn't in case-by-case scenario, its just a very simple rule of thumb for me.

 

[Aseratrix]

Erm, we're agreeing on the principles of it, you're just not understanding. Its not like I don't agree with what you're saying, you're kinda putting things in a way I'm not saying at all though. Like I said, I'm super simplifying it. I agree with what you're saying, its just you're trying to fine-tune/go way deeper than what I'm intending. Also there is a lot of dommes who get "worshiped" but its not how they want it to be, its usually because of very selfish subs (I brought up not that she doesn't want to be a domme, just that the sub goes "Yes mistress", when in fact A LOT of dommes think its very rude and vexing when someone they barely know calls them that). Again, I agree, thats not a femdom situation, thats just being kind of hedonist asshat that is pushing for how they want the the relationship to be, not the domme's feelings. Again, it breaks down to: she is in control, dictating the direction of everything. If shes not, then its not femdom. I'm not trying to argue what is/isn't in case-by-case scenario, its just a very simple rule of thumb for me.

I repeat myself: "Edit: after I read it 3 times... I agree with your comment...". Thanks for the clarification, but it was unnecessary, I understood your point already. Yes, you are absolutely right, I agree.

 

[tamzarian]

i found this game, witche's apprentice by chamomille memory. There is a theme of sissification by a futanari mistress and lot of traps, the only real female character for the moment is the one that you can considerate 100 % femdom if you are a purist and not into feminization or traps. But if you like to be bossed around by someone who looks like a female, but have a dick, that's 100 % for for you.
Over all, it's a really good games, with a solid developpement (0 bugs and it's an alpha).
2 or 3 hours of playing for the moment. Its not on f95 so :

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[Aseratrix]

I'm a "purist", next I'll be called "elitist".

 

[tamzarian]

I'm a "purist", next I'll be called "elitist".

I know some people don't like feminization or futanari, that's why i wrote about "purist".

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

Hey, if they are hot, I don't really care. I'm what you would call a "slut" ....maybe its "bitch"? All things considered I guess I'm a Hedonist. Regardless, I'm gonna give this a go. I'm actually not big on androgyny, but if they err on the feminine side, I'm all for the other stuff. I guess my regret is you don't go from a total male to female in terms of sissification.

 

[fanboi]

https://f95zone.to/threads/madams-maid-demo-badsorries.69667/

It's lezdom so don't expect m/F, but hoping this one continues.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

https://f95zone.to/threads/madams-maid-demo-badsorries.69667/

It's lezdom so don't expect m/F, but hoping this one continues.

I just can't get into lezdom, I've given it an honest shot, but its just not my thing Q_Q this does look good though, I saw it recommended a few other places

 

[Aseratrix]

https://f95zone.to/threads/madams-maid-demo-badsorries.69667/

It's lezdom so don't expect m/F, but hoping this one continues.

Thanks, I kinda enjoy lezdom, not as much as I love hetero femdom, but the bonus part is, when its lezdom, you at least can rest assured, that no cocks will ruin the aesthetics - so as a hetero sub, I enjoy lezdom way more than futadom, and a lot less than femdom. I already dowloaded this game, haven't tried it yet. It sounds good tho.

PS: happy new year!

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

Thanks, I kinda enjoy lezdom, not as much as I love hetero femdom, but the bonus part is, when its lezdom, you at least can rest assured, that no cocks will ruin the aesthetics - so as a hetero sub, I enjoy lezdom way more than futadom.

For me its a bit rough...like in my case, I just don't like seeing a woman treated that way, even if they in theory want it. Like...I get it, they might be happy, but it just never clicked with me. I'm fine with watching it happen to guys though (or maybe if I'm super lucky, I can be that guy)

 

[Aseratrix]

For me its a bit rough...like in my case, I just don't like seeing a woman treated that way, even if they in theory want it. Like...I get it, they might be happy, but it just never clicked with me. I'm fine with watching it happen to guys though (or maybe if I'm super lucky, I can be that guy)

Yeah, your point is very, very valid, and thus I could not enjoy seeing it in real life (or in real porn), because I could/can not dissociate it from the fact that a female is treated badly which I strongly dislike. But as far as these games go, I kinda dissociate the sex of the sub in my mind, and concentrate on the dominant female, so as to basically still imagine myself in the role of the sub, unless the narrative is too heavy on the sub being a female.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

Okay, I'm liking this a lot. It is a sissy/transformation game, but its not your typical type. I am having a blast and this has been really intriguing so far:

https://f95zone.to/threads/roll-the-dice-v0-2-0-ohmega.70232/
Roll the Dice...I wasn't really gonna play it, but decided I had nothing better to do (it has virtually no tags yet, it needs ton, including femdom, futa, sexual harassment (the MC as a girl), the MC in his real life, and...yeah. I haven't fully explored all this yet, but its really fun. Maybe give it a try if you like transformation games, and even though its HTML, its probably one of the cleanest/best ones I've ever played.


Edit:

okay, I've played this game pretty thoroughly now. It is pretty neat in how it starts and the gameplay/story at first but....it kinda becomes painfully obvious how this game is gonna go. I can already predict the routes and everything from what I've played.

Sarah is aggressive and blackmailing, she's completely prepped to dom you and set you up to be cucked

Elena is gentle but very clearly corrupting you to become a girl, not only calling you that but training you to take cum (your own....for now), which...lets be real, we know how that's gonna go when you have a really hung black dude hanging around.

I realize the target audience and nature of these games, but just once, I'd like to play one where you remain hetero, where the girl just gets off on sissifying/having you crossdress but ultimately is just a relationship between the two of you. Both girls are clearly planning to use you for ways to deny/humiliate the MC as much as possible and have him go into guys. The difference is do you want the rough/dive straight in, unwillingly but forced route or do you want the sinister/slow corruption where your own mind and sanity are twisted and molded. (clearly a physical/real aspect of the transformation is happening too).

^I'd say this is spoilers, but honestly, if you've ever played a sissification game, you understand exactly how the story is going to go by this point

 

[Aseratrix]

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I tried some sissification games, some were somewhat better than others, but overall, I think most of them is too shy on the femdom aspect and you as the MC end up sucking cocks, so its definitely not for me. The best I played was probably Secretary. Perverted Education was ok (especially the findom and teacher punishments), but too much cocks, and the cheer-leading squad's lack of femdom towards the MC was a big let-down, as well as the coach thingy...and then there is the Repurposing Center which is kinda all over the place (has potential tho), and then SQ Cruise Trip (if I remember the title correctly), which also has some good parts and some bad parts. Overall I have mixed feelings about the genre, I have both philosophical and personal objections to some aspects of it. But given that I already tried some, thanks for sharing.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

I tried some sissification games, some were somewhat better than others, but overall, I think most of them is too shy on the femdom aspect and you as the MC end up sucking cocks, so its definitely not for me. The best I played was probably Secretary. Perverted Education was ok (especially the findom and teacher punishments), but too much cocks, and the cheer-leading squad's lack of femdom towards the MC was a big let-down, as well as the coach thingy...and then there is the Repurposing Center which is kinda all over the place (has potential tho), and then SQ Cruise Trip (if I remember the title correctly), which also has some good parts and some bad parts. Overall I have mixed feelings about the genre, I have both philosophical and personal objections to some aspects of it. But given that I already tried some, thanks for sharing.

As far as UI/Gameplay/Clothes and equipment working as intended, Roll the dice is very good. That said, you are very clearly going to wind up sucking cocks and going the gay route. Although one of the girls looks like she'll go pretty hard in the femdom route, like her blackmail method was brutal. Dev even said her character is supposed to be psychotic.

I had the same issues with P.E., mainly the coach was the worse. I like repurposing center mostly for its ABDL content (yes, I'm aware how unpopular that is ^_^;; )

Mostly you're right, sissy games tend to go one direction, which is why I changed my tune about roll the dice, it STARTED unique, but then everything can be seen a mile away. I talked to the dev, they did say there would be alternative paths...but those more or less are you resisting the sissification and getting the girls to see you as a "man" for a regular relationship. That's not what I want either. I wish there wasn't this stigma that being submissive/into sissy (I'm personally turned on by the humilation aspect, not the "gay" aspect) means you can't have a romantic/loving relationship. I'd absolutely love a submissive, yet monogamous and loving relationship, there is a few games like that around, but man are they rare

 

[Aseratrix]

I wish there wasn't this stigma that being submissive/into sissy (I'm personally turned on by the humilation aspect, not the "gay" aspect) means you can't have a romantic/loving relationship.

Yeah, being submissive should not automatically mean you are weak. I am submissive towards females (but age, looks, personality does matter in how much) and definitely not towards males. Also being a hetero submissive does not make you gay at all.

Sissification games do - in my opinion - draw some gays too, but my main problem with it is that it treats being female with being submissive and weak. To be more open minded, I would rather say: they see not the female sex, but "femininity", the imposed gender as being submissive, which is of course true, because as a patriarchal construct, it was made as such to control females. Sadly some people confuse sex with gender, so it may send the message that being "female" automatically also means one needs to be entirely gender-conforming to the stereotypes of femininity, and as such becoming those humiliating stereotypes - echoing the female-hating, implicit idea, that being a woman is automatically to be under the authority of men.

I always found "feminization" as a tool for humiliation rather insulting to women. I can go further full Freud on this issue, but I rather not. Being a sub male, I rather want females to see my male form as humiliating and ugly compared to their divine beauty and grace - they being the superior in spirit, shape and mind.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

I always found "feminization" as a tool for humiliation rather insulting to women. I can go further full Freud on this issue, but I rather not. Being a sub male, I rather want females to see my male form as humiliating and ugly compared to their divine beauty and grace - they being the superior in spirit, shape and mind.

I can't disagree with you, especially since I think all your points are correct. I've thought about that stuff myself, but if I'm honest, I can't help being turned on by feminization. I'm not really trying to look down on anyone or push an agenda, but something about it is just really arousing. The message that most games/standard thought does leave a lot to be desired though.

 

[Aseratrix]

I'm not really trying to look down on anyone or push an agenda, but something about it is just really arousing. The message that most games/standard thought does leave a lot to be desired though.

Its completely understandable, as I wrote in a previous post on this thread, what is humiliating gets sexualized from the attitudes, gestures, different symbolisms of power-dynamics of your surrounding culture, so being seen as a woman in a male-dominated world can fuel that sense of humiliation - but this fetish's internal logic is as such, that to fully exploit it, it needs to make you dominated by males in the end. Otherwise it would be lezdom at its conclusion...which reflects interestingly to one of our previous convos