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FTFY...maybe in an extreme case when a girl would come at me with a knife, I would run or try to disarm her, so she could beat me with her bare hands.
FTFY...maybe in an extreme case when a girl would come at me with a knife, I would run or try to disarm her, so she could beat me with her bare hands.
The word "table-turning" has strong maledom connotations among femdom fans. This is why I had trouble settling on a good word for what you're describing. Table-turning also doesn't have a strong enough social status connotation for the kind of situation that interests me, which is why I followed DLsite's example with gekokujou.That's what I was saying mc being the master and receive the turn of table
You might want to check out Fyo's post on the bottom of page 2 of the Ai Shield thread; I think the poster there shares your views on characterization. I haven't played the game yet myself, but I'm a fan of stories where careful attention is paid to how the MC decides to submit (not when it comes to presentation of femdom itself, though; for example, it's cool when there's femdom-themed side characters whose actions are depicted early on which have an impact on the MC's mentality).A slower burn would be better for the story, have the hero slowly descend into the girl's control over the course of many days through smaller nudges. That would be more realistic.
I understand both your pov, but consider this:You might want to check out Fyo's post on the bottom of page 2 of the Ai Shield thread; I think the poster there shares your views on characterization. I haven't played the game yet myself, but I'm a fan of stories where careful attention is paid to how the MC decides to submit (not when it comes to presentation of femdom itself, though; for example, it's cool when there's femdom-themed side characters whose actions are depicted early on which have an impact on the MC's mentality).
Oh, absolutely. I love many different kinds of femdom plots/scenarios. I was just saying that I empathize with enjoying a gradual build-up. But plots where the submissive MC starts off into femdom can be awesome too (like Escalation!). Or where they're not into it at first, but they're rapidly broken. (Since I haven't played Ai Shield, I can't say whether or not I would also think "this is too fast-paced for me". If you're curious about what does feel a bit fast-paced to me, maybe Femdom Wife Game would be an example... But I didn't dislike FWG particularly either; it was just enjoyable for what it was, and I'd love to see what it looks like finished.)If you do, then it is this reason why I think not every femdom game needs to be about how X ended up being in a femdom situation. Instead the story can be about what makes the relationship work, and perhaps work backwards to reveal details about the genesis.
Yeah, I think first and foremost one must differentiate genres within adult games, I mean there is a huge difference in INTENT between a lets say a "fighting" game, an "rpg-like" game and a "story-based" game. Just like I don't expect Doom to have the story of The Witcher, I don't expect The Witcher to have loot like Diablo, etc.Oh, absolutely. I love many different kinds of femdom plots/scenarios. I was just saying that I empathize with enjoying a gradual build-up. But plots where the submissive MC starts off into femdom can be awesome too (like Escalation!). Or where they're not into it at first, but they're rapidly broken. (Since I haven't played Ai Shield, I can't say whether or not I would also think "this is too fast-paced for me". If you're curious about what does feel a bit fast-paced to me, maybe Femdom Wife Game would be an example... But I didn't dislike FWG particularly either; it was just enjoyable for what it was, and I'd love to see what it looks like finished.)
In the end, what's realistic or unrealistic to the player, or rather what they can self-insert well into or not well into, depends a lot on their own mentality, culture, and so on. It just makes sense for devs to write femdom situations that feel natural to them.
I might've been the one that mislead Aseratrix by accident, so I apologize volbells. I took the fact that in the description of the game on f95 it asks whether MC could "tame" the dominant female character into a "helpful ally" or be tamed by her to mean that if one plays as a defiant male MC there may be some minimal maledom content in later versions - I'm actually relieved to hear that that inference is wrong and duly apologize to you! Also, great first chapter and I'm so far loving the submissive lezdom on this as I played as female on my first playthrough!Not sure if it's something to mention in your list, but for clarity's sake, the defiant path isn't now, nor will it become maledom or even vanilla. It just leads to harsher treatment.
Peniban Quest also had some scenes where you pull the carriage of your female party members/mistresses if memory serves me right, but it truly is amazing how far less explored direct actual pony play is in femdom games as opposed to femdom porn videos, where it's pretty much a staple genre...I realized something just now, browsing through the list and having a private chat with Raven:
Poney-play is a very underused expression, I never understood why, its basically the entry-way into femdom for many [the girl riding on your back]. When in RPGM's you travel with a girl or girls, it would be a no-brainer for them to ride you after awhile.
Or how for the 100000000th time they use non-feathered scientifically-inaccurate dinosaurs just because too many idiots took Jurassic Park for evolotionary-biology gospel... Just give me my damn winged and gracious swan-like raptors and the floofball giant chicken-like T-Rexes - the world would objectively be a better place for it! It's still crazy how few things actually do portray feathered dinosaurs as the norm, even though this is a known scientific fact for many years now. (and in case anyone takes me too seriously, no the T-rex did not look like a giant rooster - it had fewer feathers than that, but there was a cute and hillarios meme drawing of a T-rex that looked like a chicken which made the rounds on social media a few years ago)I understand both your pov, but consider this:
Have you ever watched a nature documentary about lets say the dinosaurs and they without fail for the 10000000000th time get to repeat how the earth formed from an accretion disk of stellar remains, and also how a huge asteroid killed them off? They could instead speak about details, the story could be about a small pond in the Triassic, without ever having to introduce you to the whole of cosmology and that the non-avian dinosaurs went extinct when a huge meteor about 10 km in size came sizzling down and hit the Gulf of Mexico. If you do, then it is this reason why I think not every femdom game needs to be about how X ended up being in a femdom situation. Instead the story can be about what makes the relationship work, and perhaps work backwards to reveal details about the genesis.
Hmm, be a slave and a doormat for a bratty, self-absorbed, narcissistic and charming ancient noble girl, or for a "Demon Queen" that rules the world with an iron fist and breaks the minds and bones of men like twigs... Why do you make me choose between heaven and paradise, Ravenleaf?On a side note, if you made the demon king a demon queen, the world would've been fucked. I'd have probably sided with her, and probably cheaply too
It's a gift?Hmm, be a slave and a doormat for a bratty, self-absorbed, narcissistic and charming ancient noble girl, or for a "Demon Queen" that rules the world with an iron fist and breaks the minds and bones of men like twigs... Why do you make me choose between heaven and paradise, Ravenleaf?
I did a couple of playthroughs recently and it was pretty good. Are any of the missing stuff worth the effort of tracking down older versions? (if that is even possible)some of which was removed with the latest release idk why
I'm not sure. If I'm not mistaken there was a route with some non-con, feminization of the MC by the ladies (non-con too) and maybe something else but it was a reaaally long time ago.I did a couple of playthroughs recently and it was pretty good. Are any of the missing stuff worth the effort of tracking down older versions? (if that is even possible)
I will try them. It seems that EE is not tagged with femdom at all. Also if you played them you are free to give us a characterization based on the table categories.Btw, despite me having some gripes about Trials in tainted space, Lane arc was just beautiful. PC being gradually hypnotised into an obedient pet (with a permanent flag which would affect the ending when the game will be finished) and a little bit findom is just nngh. And while we're at it I think it's worth to mention Lorelei - the sexualised version of Rouge the Bat, who wants to make you her property~
Also, Aseratrix, the author of the two aforementioned characters made this game Equivalent Exchange, and while the main theme doesn't appeal to me fetish-wise, the power dynamic/the sex scenes are pretty on point and I think this game deserves to be in the list.
And last but not least,You must be registered to see the links- this game is abandoned/discontinued, but nine years later and I'm still waiting for something which could beat it in it's genre xD Has tons of variations/content (some of which was removed with the latest release idk why). Half of female characters can dom MC at one point or another (but Rachel is one love ofc). Definitely would recommend to check it out even if you're not into the whole TF thing. The original PC gender is male but you can become a female on third (or second?) day if you make the wrong or right choices so keep that in mind if that bothers you.
Wow - you're fast! Just downloaded this myself about 2 hours ago and was going to try it out later - I really like mind control and hypnosis if well implemented, and can also like chastity (although usually not as the main/sole kink as it is sometimes done), but by the looks of it there's probably way too little content as of now to tell how this will go. Thank for constantly keeping an eye out for femdom the second it gets published! When I have my next inactivity spree when I won't be able to come back to f95 for a month or so I know now to rely on your post history and this list to keep up with everything new that's come up!https://f95zone.to/threads/give-or-take-v0-1-illadvised.98895/ This is a new game, it has very little content. I played the submissive side it was...okay? It caters to both groups so I dunno about it yet since this is very early. I reaaaaally liked the hypnosis girl (I am not a huge fan of chastity where both routes seem to be leading to) I wouldn't recommend this game yet because I have no idea how the users will wind up influencing the development, but it might be worth keeping an eye on
I feel bad for my being quiet and under-the-radar on this thread for so long, I been super swamped, so now that I got free time, I can at least do what I do best, which is poke and prod for gems and duds with things that get tagged femdom I had a surprising amount of free time this week, so I am trying to make up some backlog/play some recommendations. I made a mental note to try to be more active here, but then other's might get even more floored when the page count explodes ridiculously fast...I dunno why Asertrix tends to bring out the discussion in me (and thats a good thing for me!), but Its bad news for people who hate getting their notifications blown upWow - you're fast! Just downloaded this myself about 2 hours ago and was going to try it out later - I really like mind control and hypnosis if well implemented, and can also like chastity (although usually not as the main/sole kink as it is sometimes done), but by the looks of it there's probably way too little content as of now to tell how this will go. Thank for constantly keeping an eye out for femdom the second it gets published! When I have my next inactivity spree when I won't be able to come back to f95 for a month or so I know now to rely on your post history and this list to keep up with everything new that's come up!
I'd argue Missy for that title, she's your avatar even. (also full disclosure, I'm not really big on Lesdom, I play very few. I just wanted to comment on Missy cus its freaking great)Hmmm, I don't see Descent in this list - one of the best lezdom games on this site (and completed too) imo.
Are there more routes than just the boss lady's niece(?)? I recall a lot of coercion, blackmail and alcohol on that route; and I think there was some little femdom at the end? It's been a while since I've played it.Hmmm, I don't see Descent in this list - one of the best lezdom games on this site (and completed too) imo.
Well...I said "one of". Missy is one love that's for sure <3I'd argue Missy for that title, she's your avatar even. (also full disclosure, I'm not really big on Lesdom, I play very few. I just wanted to comment on Missy cus its freaking great)
If we are talking about women - no.Are there more routes than just the boss lady's niece?
Yes. With some variations and different endings depending on your choices.I recall a lot of coercion, blackmail and alcohol on that route; and I think there was some little femdom at the end?
I can only recommend some games. I'm too lazy to write an overview for any of them ・ω・Would you mind giving an overview that would make it easy to be added to the list?