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Why do people hate Lydia for being a 'forced' LI yet love AmRose who is every bit as 'forced'?

This isn't a waifu wars post; I'm genuinely curious because the same stated issue applies to both characters, yet people contradict themselves.
 

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Why do people hate Lydia for being a 'forced' LI yet love AmRose who is every bit as 'forced'?

This isn't a waifu wars post; I'm genuinely curious because the same stated issue applies to both characters, yet people contradict themselves.
Can't you drop out of the AmRose part early in week 1?

I think there also is a difference in how they are presented. MC is basically swooning over Lydia, shilling her at every instant, while AmRose is just there. Dunno about you but I have resented all kinds of stuff during my life even though I should have liked it because one too many people told me how awesome it all is.
 

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AmRose is devoted and totally into you, gamer.
Cannot shake a pivotal stability pillar smack center of your life now, can you?
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Can't you drop out of the AmRose part early in week 1?
Nope.

I think there also is a difference in how they are presented. MC is basically swooning over Lydia, shilling her at every instant, while AmRose is just there.
AmRose is just there… behaving like a stalker with a crush. Stacy and Lydia are much more balanced/'normal' in their behavior.

I'm not particularly hating on any character (even though I'd reject AR if that were possible) but there's a weird double standard.

I'm fine with the devs telling the story they want to tell, and recognize that AR and Lydia are important parts of the MC's life; the MC is not me.
 

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sei que pode ser chato , ter que esperar , segundo o tradutor brasileiro , o Dev quer termina essa semana pra manda os arquivos pro tradutor fazer a tradução do jogo , ou seja , tem que esperar termina a semana 3 pro jogo ter a chance de ter a tradução por portugues , como eu faço tradução por hobby e não quero esperar , eu fiz uma tradução amadora , não vou posta arqui , mais quem quiser jogar ate essa versão da semana 3 , segue o link

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I know it can be boring , having to wait , according to the Brazilian translator , Dev wants to finish this week to send the files to the translator to translate the game , that is , he has to wait until week 3 ends for the game to have a chance to have it . the portuguese translation , as I do translation as a hobby and I do not want to wait , I did an amateur translation , I will not post it here , but whoever wants to play until this version of week 3 , follow the link
 
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Okay, thanks, I stand corrected. I thought I remembered something from the first meeting in the first game's walkthrough but probably did remember wrong.

AmRose is just there… behaving like a stalker with a crush. Stacy and Lydia are much more balanced/'normal' in their behavior.
What I was trying to say is: AmRose is "running around" in the game and you (as a player) can form your opinion on how much you like her just as with the other characters. With Lydia you will have dozens of lines and images telling you how great you find her and that she's your number 1 (here it's "you the MC" of course) even before you got to form a real opinion on any of the girls. That usually doesn't go over well even if otherwise you would like the character.
 

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Why do people hate Lydia for being a 'forced' LI yet love AmRose who is every bit as 'forced'?

This isn't a waifu wars post; I'm genuinely curious because the same stated issue applies to both characters, yet people contradict themselves.
I think Lydia is the way more complex character and a lot of people cannot handle that.
 

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I think Lydia is the way more complex character and a lot of people cannot handle that.
That's a nice thought. But I think it's entitlement. Just the sake of the over use of the word "forced" I believe no matter which li was unavoidable a certain group would be upset and post how they hate the "forced" one.

Maybe I'm cynical
 

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Why do people hate Lydia for being a 'forced' LI yet love AmRose who is every bit as 'forced'?

This isn't a waifu wars post; I'm genuinely curious because the same stated issue applies to both characters, yet people contradict themselves.
They're both grating, AmRose far more than Lydia.

I am fully capable of disliking several fictional characters. It's a sort of gift.
 

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I am only here for lydia wish the game would give me a actually choices and ignore all other females only care for the juice lydia ntr build up :devilish: :devilish: :love: :love:hope it will be good
 
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What I was trying to say is: AmRose is "running around" in the game and you (as a player) can form your opinion on how much you like her just as with the other characters. With Lydia you will have dozens of lines and images telling you how great you find her and that she's your number 1 (here it's "you the MC" of course) even before you got to form a real opinion on any of the girls. That usually doesn't go over well even if otherwise you would like the character.
That's not the case. Even if you choose the less AmRose option, she's canonically important and praised by MC constantly.

Again, that's the story the writers want to tell, and I'm fine with it.

That's a nice thought. But I think it's entitlement. Just the sake of the over use of the word "forced" I believe no matter which li was unavoidable a certain group would be upset and post how they hate the "forced" one.

Maybe I'm cynical
I put 'forced' in quotation marks for a reason, but there's far more backlash against Lydia for it than it is for AmRose, by people who explicitly cite 'forced' ness as the reason.

They're both grating, AmRose far more than Lydia.

I am fully capable of disliking several fictional characters. It's a sort of gift.
Yes, but then you wouldn't be the people I'm talking about.
 
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So apparently it doesn't even matter whether you have any gold stars or not, you will get out at the same time anyways, saying you need 3 stars, and that you have barely enough, even when you have 0 stars, and it also says you've been in the cage to get out, so the gold stars are useless.

I tried to see if there was a way to not get out of the cage at that point, as I thought that would be a funny secondary playthrough, testing that was a big waste of time.
 

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So apparently it doesn't even matter whether you have any gold stars or not, you will get out at the same time anyways, saying you need 3 stars, and that you have barely enough, even when you have 0 stars, and it also says you've been in the cage to get out, so the gold stars are useless.

I tried to see if there was a way to not get out of the cage at that point, as I thought that would be a funny secondary playthrough, testing that was a big waste of time.
Not true, you get out at the end of day 2 without gold stars. With them you get out earlier on day 2 and get a scene with Alison as a result.
 

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Not true, you get out at the end of day 2 without gold stars. With them you get out earlier on day 2 and get a scene with Alison as a result.
I can't be entirely certain but I am pretty sure I only had 2 Gold Stars at that scene, still it allowed me to get out for three. Or are there 4+ available? I am only sure I missed one since I was/am not on Maria's part.
 

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That's a nice thought. But I think it's entitlement. Just the sake of the over use of the word "forced" I believe no matter which li was unavoidable a certain group would be upset and post how they hate the "forced" one.

Maybe I'm cynical
TBH It's just in a game with a shitton of different potential partners it always feels wrong to have your character constantly be like "no but this is the one I really love though" especially if you've grown way way more attached to another character. It's a very common problem in these kind of games where the creators have decided there's a canon love interest and you don't get to decide even though you're fuckin 20 different people
 
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I can't be entirely certain but I am pretty sure I only had 2 Gold Stars at that scene, still it allowed me to get out for three. Or are there 4+ available? I am only sure I missed one since I was/am not on Maria's part.
Maybe it's because we're using the mod, it might let us out immediately no matter what.
 
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