Guyin Cognito

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Well ... it is called "Flirty Family," not "Flirty MC." He wants to have sex with them, and they have sex with him. Sooo ... he's going to rock the boat because he doesn't get to be the top? I mean, he DID ask her not to do anything like the slumber party to the rest of the girls again. He stood up for the people he cares about. That's not nothing.

mean if you don't like the game at all, okay fine, not everyone likes every game. If you don't like Quinn's character, okay fine, not everyone likes every character. But if you've been playing this game, and you like it, and you like Quinn, then I don't understand the surprise at her behavior, or the MC's acceptance of it. I've played this game from the beginning like three times now due to losing old saves to updates, and as far as I can tell, this has been exactly what's been going on with these characters this whole time.

Maybe I'm just not getting it. Help me understand. YOU write the version of a scene you'd like to see. Let's look at the handcuff scene. I'll set it up:

You've already had sex with your mother and two of your sisters, and they all think they're in serious monogamous relationships with you. You find out the violent home invader was actually your older sister's friend, who was never really going to hurt anyone, and they planned it because your older sister wanted to take a shot at your cock. You found this out, while the two of them were blowing you. So, there you are, post blowjob, still in handcuffs, in front of your violent, criminal-turned-cop, body building, older sister who could snap you like a twig, and she's asking you not to give away their secret. What happens in your version? What should the MC do? Go ahead.
 

Cirdon

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But if you've been playing this game, and you like it, and you like Quinn, then I don't understand the surprise at her behavior, or the MC's acceptance of it.
My surprise at Quinn's behavior is 100% based on the fact that this game didn't have a Rape tag until *after* that rape appeared in the game and there was no avoiding it. If I came to the game freshly today I would likely skip it.

So, there you are, post blowjob, still in handcuffs, in front of your violent, criminal-turned-cop, body building, older sister who could snap you like a twig, and she's asking you not to give away their secret. What happens in your version? What should the MC do? Go ahead.
In my version:

MC would then return home and get two options:

1. Tell the rest of the family what Quinn did.
2. Keep your silence and keep on the Quinn path.

So that those people who like role playing as an MC that gets fucked by Quinn, in the way Quinn likes to fuck get what they want, and those people who consider her a horrible person who they never want to see again can get what they want.
 

AlexTorch

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As far as I know the Dev doesn't have an account on F95, so if you really want to encourage them you may want to join their discord.
And being honest, even if anyone join in his discord, i highly doubt that he will change anything in the game, i have talked with him, he look like a nice dev, but that don't mean that he will change the game, the only thing that he changed the pill for viagra is because a lot of people on patreon don't like. But for me, sorry, the game still the same shit.
 

Draon79

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Sooo I found and DLd the original 1.8.... I think the Dev was drunk or sleep deprived writing that. There is only so far the suspension of disbelief can go before its just horse shit and that was horse shit. There is no way an ex con is going to be a cop, the false allegations of rape and then drugging and using him were unneeded. Immediate acceptance of it and then continuing to go along willingly is just a no.

I get he wanted a femdom angle for Quinn but this was not the way to do it. Quinn was the one I was really looking forward to cause she seemed like she was going to be a wild fuck, figured probably femdom as she is portrayed that way, maybe abit of pain/rough sex too but this just killed her for me. Not sure if 1.8a is better but the drugging and false rape allegations need to go away before I would play this again. Also Lily is ruined as well. Such a pity was looking forward to her as well.
 

ptahn

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For those asking about exactly what changes were made, I have done the comparison.

SPOILERS AHEAD IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED IT YET

In the new version, she only gives the MC Viagra, no other kind of drugs. He no longer makes any reference to being raped, and instead says the Viagra was unnecessary. The images are the same.
So her backstory is still
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Cirdon

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18a is the least bugged version of 18 that we've gotten. And we're not likely to get another bug fix version as far as I've seen on the discord.

if 19 is as big of an update as I've read it will be, expect it'll be a good while before that appears.
 

Draon79

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18a is the least bugged version of 18 that we've gotten. And we're not likely to get another bug fix version as far as I've seen on the discord.

if 19 is as big of an update as I've read it will be, expect it'll be a good while before that appears.
Can you share the update info on here? really dont want to join the discord RN :)
 

SquareTriangleX0

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Thank you for your honest response. I appreciate you giving me your perspective as someone who actually works with abuse victims. I will continue to keep an eye on my thoughts and always be ready to reconsider my opinions. Since you expressed you do not wish to get into specific points, I will refrain, and instead take the time to consider what you've said as I re-read my own statements. The only other thing I will say is that regardless of whether or not it is acceptable to make such broad debate about fiction that I've made here, it is certainly not open to such debate in real life, it is a shame that the topic is so common in porn, and ultimately even those of us who see it as a serious problem are prone to having ideas worm their way into our minds that might shock us if we could view ourselves more objectively. It is always worth re-examining one's own thoughts on any important issue.

And yet incest is as serious as rape in real life- but we accept it readily in these games. Just sayin....
 
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SquareTriangleX0

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I've played a lot of these games in the last few years, and I'm surprised people are so harsh on the MC in this one, especially in comparison to other games. I mean, I suppose you could argue that the game was written intentionally to put him in these positions, but just looking at the story I see him getting along quite well with the youngest daughter and hitting things off pretty well.

With the middle sister, she is emphatically against him. I'm pretty sure she even slaps him at one point, which he deserved, for spanking or kissing her on the ass without warning, which isn't exactly "spineless." So, what should he do about it? Hit her back and get into a fistfight? Instead, he kills her with kindness, which drives her absolutely crazy, and ultimately wins her over. She has him act as a slave for a day (in exchange for some favor I think, I forget why, but there was a reason), and the end result is he gets to have a sexual encounter with her. He doesn't complain. He then shoves his face in her vagina while she's just trying to do sit-ups. Again, not the act of a spineless man. Would it have been better if he went all-in and forced his way into a relationship with her from the beginning when she clearly said she didn't like him? That's not "having a spine," that's being a predator. There are plenty of those MC's in other games. I'm happy to play a character that's not completely an irredeemable asshole this time around. As it is, he's pushing what's reasonable.

What about Quinn? He already wantonly stares at her tits and gets away with it, and she just laughs it off and enjoys it. She flirts with him, but he can't tell if she's serious or just messing with him. He's afraid of her, and isn't sure what she would do if he flirts back. She could easily over power him physically, and he's not sure what she's capable of morally. So what is he supposed to do to "turn the tables?" I suppose he could blackmail her or drug her and--oh wait, that's exactly what everyone is complaining about her doing! And again I say, if you've been paying attention to her character this whole time, wrestling him into submission, coercing him with gunplay and handcuffs, how are you so surprised by this?

He tells his mother he wants more from her, and respects it when she says she's not ready for that.
That is what's supposed to happen with normal rational people.

I kind of feel like a lot of people are describing "respecting other peoples' wishes and personal space" and "having rational fears of dangerous people" as being "spineless." Should he have been buying lingerie and flowers and professing his lust for his own family on a daily basis? He's already boning his entire family inside of a month of moving in with them. I think he's getting by just fine as it is.
Agree 100% Well said!
 

SquareTriangleX0

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Sooo I found and DLd the original 1.8.... I think the Dev was drunk or sleep deprived writing that. There is only so far the suspension of disbelief can go before its just horse shit and that was horse shit. There is no way an ex con is going to be a cop, the false allegations of rape and then drugging and using him were unneeded. Immediate acceptance of it and then continuing to go along willingly is just a no.

I get he wanted a femdom angle for Quinn but this was not the way to do it. Quinn was the one I was really looking forward to cause she seemed like she was going to be a wild fuck, figured probably femdom as she is portrayed that way, maybe abit of pain/rough sex too but this just killed her for me. Not sure if 1.8a is better but the drugging and false rape allegations need to go away before I would play this again. Also Lily is ruined as well. Such a pity was looking forward to her as well.
Disagree! This was hot! Threeway with Lily and Quinn! What a nice fantasy. Not truly femdom- no abuse/humiliation from the females.
 
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Cirdon

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Can you share the update info on here? really dont want to join the discord RN :)
I have no idea how much is true, but the main thing I have heard is that prior saves will be of no use because the developer is switching platforms from Unity to Renpy. They plan on keeping most of the same graphics/paths from what's happened so far, but this should allow them quicker development going forward.
 
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