VN Ren'Py Abandoned Forbidden Desires [v0.4 Part1 Public] [Forbidden Link Games]

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Kalsan

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It's disappointing that you're changing your story for the alpha-chad harem folks. There's not even a harem tag on the thread, there's a trans tag on the thread. These people go into every thread on the site and demand that games/VNs be homogenized to their narrow tastes. You don't have to cater to them. For every one of them loudly complaining, there's someone annoyed about devs capitulating to their interests.

They just want every game to be a harem theme park with the same cast of characters and some Marty Stu magic dick character that has dick hypnosis powers that make women never want to touch another dick again. I've seen a bunch of devs change their stories for these people and it didn't garner them an additional ounce of support. Just focus on making a high quality story with good writing and well-done, well-lit visuals and it will find an audience. There are plenty of people who like promiscuous characters. There are plenty of people who like trans characters, and it's clearly advertised as part of the story from the start, no need to relegate your characters to "optional" fetish content by changing the story.

Whatever you think it'll get you please reconsider whatever plans you have to change your story for these people. Sharing/promiscuity isn't NTR, and we have tags for it (sharing/group sex). There are plenty of popular games with these tags, and these folks fill up those threads with their rage until their spam gets deleted and they move on.
Oh believe me iam sure i speak for most of harem players and even with all the minuscule changes he is going to make most of us will still not touch this game with a ten foot stick so don't worry. Well at least a lot of people like promiscuous love interest right? Pffft yeah sure.
 

NakkiMuki

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It's disappointing that you're changing your story for the alpha-chad harem folks. There's not even a harem tag on the thread, there's a trans tag on the thread. These people go into every thread on the site and demand that games/VNs be homogenized to their narrow tastes. You don't have to cater to them. For every one of them loudly complaining, there's someone annoyed about devs capitulating to their interests.

They just want every game to be a harem theme park with the same cast of characters and some Marty Stu magic dick character that has dick hypnosis powers that make women never want to touch another dick again. I've seen a bunch of devs change their stories for these people and it didn't garner them an additional ounce of support. Just focus on making a high quality story with good writing and well-done, well-lit visuals and it will find an audience. There are plenty of people who like promiscuous characters. There are plenty of people who like trans characters, and it's clearly advertised as part of the story from the start, no need to relegate your characters to "optional" fetish content by changing the story.

Whatever you think it'll get you please reconsider whatever plans you have to change your story for these people. Sharing/promiscuity isn't NTR, and we have tags for it (sharing/group sex). There are plenty of popular games with these tags, and these folks fill up those threads with their rage until their spam gets deleted and they move on.
Are you stupid or something? There is nothing to remove from you. Here, I understand the little text is changed to serve everyone, but the trans content is not removed, but the player is asked if it wants to see it. The same will be done for NTR. There may even be reason to praise dev here if it makes everything so-called suitable for everyone, but it remains to be seen because we haters are not a very easy audience.

Nothing prevents devs from taking money away from everyone in this way by making the game suitable for everyone. BUT if the game does not become suitable for everyone, then in practice it will lose potential supporters.
 
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SeveredRealms

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Are you stupid or something? There is nothing to remove from you. Here, I understand the little text is changed to serve everyone, but the trans content is not removed, but the player is asked if it wants to see it. The same will be done for NTR. There may even be reason to praise dev here if it makes everything so-called suitable for everyone, but it remains to be seen because we haters are not a very easy audience.
Guessing that other guy skipped past this part or the devs post while making his little rant.
Some of the stuff I've seen brought up I do agree with, namely the NTR stuff. I agree with a lot of people that NTR isn't really my cup of tea, I never really intended for true NTR to become a thing in my story.
 
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Are you stupid or something? There is nothing to remove from you. Here, I understand the little text is changed to serve everyone, but the trans content is not removed, but the player is asked if it wants to see it. The same will be done for NTR. There may even be reason to praise dev here if it makes everything so-called suitable for everyone, but it remains to be seen because we haters are not a very easy audience.

Nothing prevents devs from taking money away from everyone in this way by making the game suitable for everyone. BUT if the game does not become suitable for everyone, then in practice it will lose potential supporters.
Clearly you missed the part where NTR fanatics are only satisfied if others are forced to "enjoy" their chosen kink.
 

LGM

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Looking good so far. I really enjoyed this.
That said, it seems to me that the script could use a few extra commas in some places. And "you're" is consistently spelled "your". There are a few similar mistakes (like who's <> whose), but that one is everywhere.
Looking forward to more.
 
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Faptime

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So far we've been introduced to 5 potential LIs.

* The younger daughter, Lynne, is 18, is most likely a virgin, and is definitely a Daddy's girl. Lynne has a crush on her Daddy, but that's all so far.

* The elder daughter, Max, is a 21 yr old woman who loves sex. Her only known partner is her transgirl FWB, Essie. Max is in love with her Dad (MC) but, prior to the game starting, never thought she would be with him. Max begins to think it's possible because Essie is in a sexual relationship with her own brother. Max also seems to be interested in Lynne, but that could be just playfulness.

* Essie, the transgirl. She's in the banner, and while MC knows of her, he hasn't met her yet. It is not known if he knows that she is trans. Similar to Max, Essie seems to love sex, does porn streaming, but we don't know what her relationship is with her brother is: just FWB or more.

* MC's sister, Dora. MC and his sister used to have sex when they were teens. She is divorced with a daughter, who she is in a sexual relationship with.

* MC's niece, Chisa. Same age as Lynne and in a sexual relationship with her Mom. Chisa knows that MC and her Mom had sex before, and she wants a piece of that action.

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I personally have no issues with any of the above. MC has already gotten a blowjob from his sister and a handjob from his daughter. He knows that that same daughter is having sex with Essie, and that his sister and his niece are having sex with each other.

He has just now become comfortable with seeing his daughters as potential sexual partners, so I'm looking forward to seeing where things go from here with all of them. The beach is certainly going to be an interesting time.

FYI, the pic that Max got from Essie is hot af. Looking forward to MC making her erupt like that as well.
 

yoyomistro

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Guessing that other guy skipped past this part or the devs post while making his little rant.
I never said anything about adding NTR. He's already said he's changing his story for the people who get triggered by more than one pixel dick in a game/VN, and that's what I addressed. I've only seen indications of sharing/group sex potentially in the future, which I don't consider NTR whatever you want to call it. I'm not out here looking for cuck games or some shit, it's just annoying when people pile into threads cuz all the females in game aren't cloistered celibates, disaffected divorcees, or sexless widows until the MC gives them a sexual awakening.

Also seems like you didn't read his post. He said TRUE NTR, which means that sharing/group sex is probably planned as indicated by the story and the post.

ForbiddenLinkGames if you want to make changes, instead of changing your story completely just add a sharing switch before people start the game that will skip content or provide alternate lines automatically, i.e.:

Code:
essie "Nope, my brother wanted to send it specifically for you."

if nosharing:

    maxine "Wow... That's hot."
    
else:

    maxine "Wow... Tell him thanks, I'm up for a good fucking to thank him if he wants."
 

FookU2

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I can't see "FGL" without thinking "Florida Georgia Line." [blargf]
And, due to that, I now can download this.
(In reality, it's just cause it is kinetic, but I felt like adding more justification than just that. lol)
 

ZeroSomeGame

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...but I intend for the MC to pick only one at a point in the future to persue as something more than just a sexual partner.
pick only one
I get that most harem fans are normally entirely insane and think that acknowledging the existence of penises other than MC's is, the same as "everyone who even enjoyed this game is cheating on me just to humiliate me," but as a harem fan who isn't off my meds, this was the line that bothered me.

I like the models and the premise is comfortable. I like the little bit of the game i have played so far. I'm not angry at Big-Titty-Goth-Daughter for fucking people when she isn't in a relationship and being so emotionally immature that she doesn't see the link between sex and emotions.

I just hate being forced to make a choice that rejects an LI.

Dev, don't change your vision of the game, and definitely don't change it because of anything said on this godforsaken forum. You have to tell the story the way you see it. It's your story. Otherwise, you're not going to want to tell it anymore.

Good luck to you ForbiddenLinkGames and i'll check back in after a few more updates.
 
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Hey again, appreciate most of the feedback.

Alright. I saw some people saying I shouldn't change the story or whatever for just a few people, the story hasn't changed from how I wanted it to go in the beginning, the changes I made were to fix how some stuff came across. It won't change the story at all, but it will make how certain characters feel about things a bit clearer.

Now about the next update, a public release should be out by the end of the first week of next month. It will be the entirety of the second day. With this update, choices are a thing. These choices will affect how the story plays out and what characters become involved. Also, some choices will be added to the first day that will allow you to choose who you're involved with in a better way. For example, all sexual scenes on the first day now have a choice before them. So when the update is released, I would recommend playing from the start again, especially with the changes made to some of the dialogue. However, you can play from your prior save if you don't want to change anything, since it will ask you a few questions when you load the save.

I have also included a built-in walkthrough of sorts, which you will get the choice to turn on or off when you start a new game or again when you load a save in the next update. Plus I saw it asked for to make the girl's ages a variable so it would be easier to mod, personally it isn't something that interests me but I have made them into variables so have fun with that.

Now, I have made a couple of changes to some of the girls:

Dora might have a new haircut. I saw mention of the hair and while I wasn't sure what that was about, I have picked a new hairstyle for her, but it isn't permanent atm. I'll include a couple of comparison pictures, so it would be great if you could give feedback on what you prefer and I'll decide from there.

DoraNewHair.png DoraOldHair.png

Chisa has a full new face model. Again, saw some feedback on her face which I agreed with. The face I was using just didn't morph very well when changing expressions, this is basically a guaranteed switch as I very much prefer the new face. I'll include some comparison pictures and again would like some feedback, but like I said this is most likely her new face.

ChisaNew2.png ChisaOld2.png

Now previous renders made with the old models will be redone for either this update or the next one, depending on if I have time before the scheduled release period. Anyway, I think that is everything. If you would like more regular updates I would recommend following my , anything to do with game updates is always released as a public update. Only exclusive renders and such are behind the tiers.

Hope you guys are all good and safe, thanks for playing! (y)
 

Paprika

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I like how the story ended.
Looking forward to the continuation with the elder daughter and that spooning.
 

yoyomistro

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Hey again, appreciate most of the feedback.

Alright. I saw some people saying I shouldn't change the story or whatever for just a few people, the story hasn't changed from how I wanted it to go in the beginning, the changes I made were to fix how some stuff came across. It won't change the story at all, but it will make how certain characters feel about things a bit clearer.

Now about the next update, a public release should be out by the end of the first week of next month. It will be the entirety of the second day. With this update, choices are a thing. These choices will affect how the story plays out and what characters become involved. Also, some choices will be added to the first day that will allow you to choose who you're involved with in a better way. For example, all sexual scenes on the first day now have a choice before them. So when the update is released, I would recommend playing from the start again, especially with the changes made to some of the dialogue. However, you can play from your prior save if you don't want to change anything, since it will ask you a few questions when you load the save.

I have also included a built-in walkthrough of sorts, which you will get the choice to turn on or off when you start a new game or again when you load a save in the next update. Plus I saw it asked for to make the girl's ages a variable so it would be easier to mod, personally it isn't something that interests me but I have made them into variables so have fun with that.

Now, I have made a couple of changes to some of the girls:

Dora might have a new haircut. I saw mention of the hair and while I wasn't sure what that was about, I have picked a new hairstyle for her, but it isn't permanent atm. I'll include a couple of comparison pictures, so it would be great if you could give feedback on what you prefer and I'll decide from there.

View attachment 1711455 View attachment 1711456

Chisa has a full new face model. Again, saw some feedback on her face which I agreed with. The face I was using just didn't morph very well when changing expressions, this is basically a guaranteed switch as I very much prefer the new face. I'll include some comparison pictures and again would like some feedback, but like I said this is most likely her new face.

View attachment 1711452 View attachment 1711454

Now previous renders made with the old models will be redone for either this update or the next one, depending on if I have time before the scheduled release period. Anyway, I think that is everything. If you would like more regular updates I would recommend following my , anything to do with game updates is always released as a public update. Only exclusive renders and such are behind the tiers.

Hope you guys are all good and safe, thanks for playing! (y)
Dude, don't change Dora's hair. Some people hate alternative styles, not sure what's up with them but they want every female char to be cleancut, no alt haircuts, tattoos, etc. Also Chisa clearly looked part Asian now doesn't so much. Can't tell from the bust but it looks like you changed her build as well.

If you wanna make cookie cutter white characters after hearing from a few people who want everything to fit their tastes fine, but I'll point you to other threads of games where people have beat back people who wanted that and found support. Light of my Life is an excellent VN that's well produced, with great writing and story, has a solid base of support (including yours truly) without pandering to the types of folks I'm talking about. Not that they don't attempt to fill the thread with nonsense before it gets deleted, but the VN persists despite their protests.

If you look for input from the crowd frankly you're going to hear from the most strident people who want a very specific thing, but it's not the same as getting a good picture of what the general lay of the land is. Some people will just see it as you not having a strong enough vision of where you want this whole thing to go. Those people will mostly move on with their lives and ignore your work. I really like the premise and the characters you've crafted so far. Hopefully you'll give some thought to my suggestion of "writing out" content with a "harem only" variable, a good example of that is A New Beginning, where people can censor away whole chunks of the story with a click of a button if they wish without it affecting the broader narrative.

Anyway, like I said I like what you've started with here, and I wouldn't bother replying if it wasn't a great foundation. Hopefully you don't go meandering too much looking to crowd-please. It will most definitely show up in your output, and probably not well in my humble opinion. Good luck with your continued efforts.
 

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If you look for input from the crowd frankly you're going to hear from the most strident people who want a very specific thing, but it's not the same as getting a good picture of what the general lay of the land is. Some people will just see it as you not having a strong enough vision of where you want this whole thing to go. Those people will mostly move on with their lives and ignore your work. I really like the premise and the characters you've crafted so far. Hopefully you'll give some thought to my suggestion of "writing out" content with a "harem only" variable, a good example of that is A New Beginning, where people can censor away whole chunks of the story with a click of a button if they wish without it affecting the broader narrative.

Anyway, like I said I like what you've started with here, and I wouldn't bother replying if it wasn't a great foundation. Hopefully you don't go meandering too much looking to crowd-please. It will most definitely show up in your output, and probably not well in my humble opinion. Good luck with your continued efforts.
Let the dev do the game as he wishes and stop saying the same things over and over it's clearly annoying and it is from from the so called crowd , he gets his supporters so he can decide what kind of game he wants to make and by the way great example " A new beginning " great game :KEK: 3 stars and soon to be entering into the most dreadful abandoned territory .
 
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manman232

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Is there a way to stop some lines to automatically moving onto the next? It makes me rewind to read it
 
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Is there a way to stop some lines to automatically moving onto the next? It makes me rewind to read it
This is something that has already been pointed out to me and will be fixed in the next update, the delay before some lines advance will be increased by a lot. This should make every line easily readable without having to go back. Obviously, this is designed so that certain things happen with surprise and I try to make sure that if someone gets interrupted, it isn't something super integral to the story that they were saying. However, if it is still an issue after the update then I'll consider adding an option to disable stuff like that.

Thanks for playing btw (y)
 

manman232

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This is something that has already been pointed out to me and will be fixed in the next update, the delay before some lines advance will be increased by a lot. This should make every line easily readable without having to go back. Obviously, this is designed so that certain things happen with surprise and I try to make sure that if someone gets interrupted, it isn't something super integral to the story that they were saying. However, if it is still an issue after the update then I'll consider adding an option to disable stuff like that.

Thanks for playing btw (y)
Thanks so much I think I figured out why I couldn't read it. I always set the text speed as maximum since I read lines fast and it being lowered feels slow to me. So when the "Interrupted" lines come, it passes by. But thanks for the possible toggle for it! I would really appreciate it. I look forward to new content for the game.
 

yoyomistro

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This is something that has already been pointed out to me and will be fixed in the next update, the delay before some lines advance will be increased by a lot. This should make every line easily readable without having to go back. Obviously, this is designed so that certain things happen with surprise and I try to make sure that if someone gets interrupted, it isn't something super integral to the story that they were saying. However, if it is still an issue after the update then I'll consider adding an option to disable stuff like that.

Thanks for playing btw (y)
I would suggest taking those jumps out altogether, manually took them all out myself. A hyphen/font change and a break in the text serves fine to convey interruption/low volume, etc.
 
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The next update is done. Over the next few days it will be available early to my subscribers, but on the 6th of April it will be released into the public.

One of the major parts of this update is that it is the start of choices being available to the player, these choices will enable you to pick and choose who the MC is involved with. Certain choices will lock certain routes, because of this I have also included a built-in route helper/walkthrough. This is something completely optional, when you start playing the update you will be given the option of enabling it if you would like to.

Also when you start the update from a previous save, you'll be given a few choices pertaining to the previous day. This will allow you to choose if the MC was involved with certain characters on the first day. Personally, I would actually recommend starting from the beginning of the game again to experience a few new scenes added with the choices. However it is perfectly fine to just continue from a save file.

I have also made some fixes to the previous day, including spelling and grammar thanks to a helpful player. Another fix was to do with the auto advancing lines, I have decided to just remove them from now on. Trying to time it well is annoying and I would rather spend that time on making the actual game.

I think that's everything, I hope everyone is looking forward to this update. The update after this one is already planned out, but work on that won't start until this update has had it's public release. After my sudden night in the hospital, I would like to take some time off on working on this game. I hope everyone understands, I still plan for the next update to be out within 1-1.5 months of this one.

Also, can someone tell me how to get the game updated in this thread? I want to make sure that the day the update is available publicly, it's available here asap for everyone.

Anyway, thank you for the support as always and I hope you enjoy the update when it is available to you!
 

yoyomistro

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The next update is done. Over the next few days it will be available early to my subscribers, but on the 6th of April it will be released into the public.

One of the major parts of this update is that it is the start of choices being available to the player, these choices will enable you to pick and choose who the MC is involved with. Certain choices will lock certain routes, because of this I have also included a built-in route helper/walkthrough. This is something completely optional, when you start playing the update you will be given the option of enabling it if you would like to.

Also when you start the update from a previous save, you'll be given a few choices pertaining to the previous day. This will allow you to choose if the MC was involved with certain characters on the first day. Personally, I would actually recommend starting from the beginning of the game again to experience a few new scenes added with the choices. However it is perfectly fine to just continue from a save file.

I have also made some fixes to the previous day, including spelling and grammar thanks to a helpful player. Another fix was to do with the auto advancing lines, I have decided to just remove them from now on. Trying to time it well is annoying and I would rather spend that time on making the actual game.

I think that's everything, I hope everyone is looking forward to this update. The update after this one is already planned out, but work on that won't start until this update has had it's public release. After my sudden night in the hospital, I would like to take some time off on working on this game. I hope everyone understands, I still plan for the next update to be out within 1-1.5 months of this one.

Also, can someone tell me how to get the game updated in this thread? I want to make sure that the day the update is available publicly, it's available here asap for everyone.

Anyway, thank you for the support as always and I hope you enjoy the update when it is available to you!
You can request thread ownership yourself, post it and then report the post as an update, and a mod will upload to the front page if you do not want thread ownership. Please note that ownership is limited, for example you cannot delete an update if it somehow finds its way here early.
 
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