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Theovonpapen

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10000% this. So many games have art that just ruins the game for me (most human stuff or going for that "realistic" style), or makes the MC look one way I don't like, but if you don't do that at all, I can imagine whatever I want.
You know, one thing I haven't seen that I expected more of is (semi-)clean sketches in text games. It's a compromise between a full, expensive rendition and nothing.

Like I'm personally not a fan of femboys
I was more or less in that predicament for a while, mostly because the other genres were drying up in terms of content (notably, non-human centric since the human content was getting old and overdone). Jlullaby has made a whole comic on a femboy, but I was more interested with the artist, not the genre. Then I , and I now do see the appeal of femboys despite not being that fluent in Japanese to read comics.
 
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You know, one thing I haven't seen that I expected more of is (semi-)clean sketches in text games. It's a compromise between a full, expensive rendition and nothing.
There's still the gamble of adding art to a text game where people like me are totally fine w/o art, and the art can detract from the text if people don't like it. YMMV, but some people aren't able to do art (myself included) and therefore they would have to pay for it. Even sketches can still be expensive depending on what you want it to be.

I was more or less in that predicament for a while, mostly because the other genres were drying up in terms of content
I'm just not a fan. I'm not bi and I don't like the effeminate stuff. I also don't like vaginas (even on boys). I'm also really turned off by gay guys who are very flamboyant and talk like "a stereotypical gay guy". I don't like drag/crossdressing, etc.

FTR: I'm totally fine with all that stuff existing, it's not like I'm gonna bash those things, they're just not for me. I know what I like and it's not femboy/femme stuff. It's also why I'm very thankful FOXXX has only bad end portraits so despite the MC basically being a femboy, I can still enjoy it.

Then I , and I now do see the appeal of femboys despite not being that fluent in Japanese to read comics.
There's some hot bits in there, but still not for me.
 
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Yeah, re: Artwork, I'm keen to add more to the game. There'll be toggles/specific settings for it, though, since I think it's a pretty even split between people who enjoy artwork in text-games and people who prefer to use their imagination.

Having more options for stuff like that is always a win imo.


And IMO the writing on sex scenes are a bit lacking.
Sorry to hear it. Is there anything specific you think I can work on or revisit?
 

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Sorry to hear it. Is there anything specific you think I can work on or revisit?
I'm terrible at writing myself so can't give any specific suggestion. But here's the problem:
In this game, during sex Scenes, it's only "Things happened", no descriptive writing on "How it happens", lacking detailed text to paint the scenes livid.
Hence, nothing stands out that's unique - It totally depends on the imagination of the reader, which will be exactly the "same old stuff" as they do for every other game.

It gets the job done, but nothing above average.

BTW, good decision on the art toggle. it's always a good idea to offer more options, as long as it doesn't dilute the contents.

FTR: I'm totally fine with all that stuff existing, it's not like I'm gonna bash those things, they're just not for me. I know what I like and it's not femboy/femme stuff. It's also why I'm very thankful FOXXX has only bad end portraits so despite the MC basically being a femboy, I can still enjoy it.
Is it specifically stated MC is a Femboy? As far as I can tell MC is just a timid, submissive, small fox.
There's nothing he does is specifically feminine? NPCs also ain't treating him like female?
 

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Is it specifically stated MC is a Femboy? As far as I can tell MC is just a timid, submissive, small fox.
There's nothing he does is specifically feminine? NPCs also ain't treating him like female?
It's not like he's intentionally femme or femboy (FOXXX Dev, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here?), but his proportions are mentioned time and time again. He *looks* small and girlish. Many NPCs have commented on how he looks and even outright confuse him for a female, which to me boils down to an easy "femboy" label.

Yes, I know he's not intentionally femboy, but being small/girlish also rolls against my tastes of "I like *men*" kind of characters. It's why most of the stuff in the game I like are the NPCs that do things to the MC moreso than the MC doing anything (it's also why I posted on one of the latest updates to get a bug fixed with the bartender cumming in your drink over and over because one of my favorite scenes got bugged and inaccessible for like 10+ versions).

But again, with text I can briefly glance over and no images to force me to see these things happening to a "small femboy fox", I can instead imagine whatever the hell I want. Instead of "femme-looking", I can make him more "small, submissive, and breedable" in my mind. My whole point is I like that I'm not forced to see femme/femboy characters, regardless of how you actually want to label our little fox boy.
 

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It's not like he's intentionally femme or femboy (FOXXX Dev, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here?), but his proportions are mentioned time and time again. He *looks* small and girlish. Many NPCs have commented on how he looks and even outright confuse him for a female, which to me boils down to an easy "femboy" label.

Yes, I know he's not intentionally femboy, but being small/girlish also rolls against my tastes of "I like *men*" kind of characters. It's why most of the stuff in the game I like are the NPCs that do things to the MC moreso than the MC doing anything (it's also why I posted on one of the latest updates to get a bug fixed with the bartender cumming in your drink over and over because one of my favorite scenes got bugged and inaccessible for like 10+ versions).

But again, with text I can briefly glance over and no images to force me to see these things happening to a "small femboy fox", I can instead imagine whatever the hell I want. Instead of "femme-looking", I can make him more "small, submissive, and breedable" in my mind. My whole point is I like that I'm not forced to see femme/femboy characters, regardless of how you actually want to label our little fox boy.
Hmmm, guess I've automatically self-censored anything that's associated with feminine, hence nothing of such left any impression.
Then I'm a living proof of your point :LOL:
The Dev does a nice job of not explicitly painting the picture in one way or another, so it can swing both ways.

Tho I'm also curious, FOXXXDev is it intentionally made vague, so you can decipher either way?
Or the intention is indeed to create a Femboy Fox MC? Then you should make your picture toggle opt-in, not opt-out.
 
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Theovonpapen

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Tho I'm also curious, FOXXXDev is it intentionally made vague, so you can decipher either way?
Or the intention is indeed to create a Femboy Fox MC? Then you should make your picture toggle opt-in, not opt-out.
The MC is very much designed in the "weak lil boy" trope. This is super common with male protagonists against an ocean of monster girls and femdoms. Heelfall, Rape Reincarnation, Under the Witch, Happy Hearts Hell & Panic, SHRIFT, Perfect Home, literally every game titled "succubus" with a male protagonist and I'm pretty sure weak boys are at least a 1/3 of the porn text game genre.
 

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The MC is very much designed in the "weak lil boy" trope. This is super common with male protagonists against an ocean of monster girls and femdoms. Heelfall, Rape Reincarnation, Under the Witch, Happy Hearts Hell & Panic, SHRIFT, Perfect Home, literally every game titled "succubus" with a male protagonist and I'm pretty sure weak boys are at least a 1/3 of the porn text game genre.
To be clear, "timid, submissive, and small male" does NOT equal to 'Little Boy".
The former fit into Dom / Sub kink, the latter is Pedophilia.

I have a strong distaste towards Pedophilia contents which I won't touch even if it's just text.
This game totally doesn't give the Pedo vibe, that's why I'm keeping a tab.
Same with Perfect Home, Fox / Cat naturally fits into this image.

"Femboy" also doesn't mean they are "literal boy", it's the same as "Trap" - Male behave / dress / function / etc as Female.
 

Theovonpapen

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To be clear, "timid, submissive, and small male" does NOT equal to 'Little Boy".
The former fit into Dom / Sub kink, the latter is Pedophilia.

I have a strong distaste towards Pedophilia contents which I won't touch even if it's just text.
This game totally doesn't give the Pedo vibe, that's why I'm keeping a tab.
Same with Perfect Home, Fox / Cat naturally fits into this image.

"Femboy" also doesn't mean they are "literal boy", it's the same as "Trap" - Male behave / dress / function / etc as Female.
I was using that phrase colloquially, not in the terms of pedophilia. Think of Elagabalus, except he's an adult.
 

nackedsnake

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I was using that phrase colloquially, not in the terms of pedophilia. Think of Elagabalus, except he's an adult.
It doesn't matter whether you claim they are 'adults'. If they look like kids, act like kids, and it's sexual, then it's Pedo.
Twink is something totally different.
The games you listed are either Femboy, or straight up Pedo (except Perfect Home) - surprise, Pedo is very popular among Japanese games in the forms of Loli and Shota.

But I'm off tangle so I'll just stop.
 

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Theovonpapen

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Seeing the Heater bot got me thinking, would there be a symbiote-like figure as a personal bed/mb item or additional npcs.
 

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Can we put this into "Abandoned" on a technicality as the current version of patreon is beyond the version that we have here.
Could you say anything even more stupid?
Funny you even think using this kind of passive aggressive way to beg for updates will get you somewhere.

If you want to play it so badly, go buy the update yourself.
 

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Could you say anything even more stupid?
Funny you even think using this kind of passive aggressive way to beg for updates will get you somewhere.

If you want to play it so badly, go buy the update yourself.
Could you say anything even more stupid?
Funny you even think using this kind of passive aggressive way for you to think that I'm even begging for updates, to even consider that I don't even donate at all.

I'm here to ask the good people of F95 to do their due diligence. Unfortunately, they have not, thanos style.
 
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