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In an actual power fantasy, I would not be forced to whore out my personal slave harem because it is literally the only way to not go bankrupt.
This is just not true, even on the hardest difficulties. Milking is a bigger moneymaker than whoring (weirdly, because it's even LESS realistic), and it's certainly possible to do just fine financially with neither whores nor cows. Early game, you will be pinched for money (basically relying on rent), but slave training is a great money maker long-term, and your weekly costs can be kept pretty low if you're using the right number of servants. Get a recruiter going, pick up some cheap slaves (shelter slaves are always very cheap, for example, though you have to be careful not to break their rules too often), and advance FSes that will bring you volunteers and increase the value of your slaves (ideally, your first FS should be one that rewards you for increasing the value of your slaves...Paternalism or Asset Expansionism are good choices for this strategy). You can make around 500k profit on each slave you train if you're doing it right, and that starts a virtuous cycle where you can invest in your neighboring arcologies and collect rent from them too. The Corporation can be a nice passive moneymaker as well, though it requires some capital to start up, and if you're using SecExp, weapons manufacturing is also a good source of money every turn that you can focus on right at the start of the game.

Oh, and don't forget about porn. Pick slaves with good faces, and producing porn from them will more than pay for them. Don't know if that triggers you the same way whoring does, but if it doesn't, it's a huge moneymaker and basically makes your slave count not matter at all, since every slave is cash-positive no matter what their job is.
 
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This is just not true, even on the hardest difficulties. Milking is a bigger moneymaker than whoring (weirdly, because it's even LESS realistic)
Huh. I must have been doing milking wrong. I tried it once and it looked like it was bad so I stopped. Must have been missing some requisite upgrades.
This is good info though. thank you
rent pays way too little. even if I fully own both my arcology and my neighbors. it is still a tiny amount compared to other sources. and not enough to pay for various expenses
 

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i hadn't considered just cheating to get money, but i agree that removes a part of the process that is bypassed fairly soon anyway, i'll do it next time
 

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your harem
You're wrong here. They are not your harem. They are slaves, propertly to be used and exploited for profit.
Sure, you can keep a couple slaves exclusively for yourself, and never whore them out.
But extending such treatment to all slaves is straight up counterproductive and foolish.

Edit: If you are so strongly against whoring out any of your slaves, just cheat in several bajilions of money at the start and enjoy your power fantasy.
Don't even have to use cheat mode. "Limited cheat start" is enough to get practically infinite money.
 

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You're wrong here. They are not your harem. They are slaves, propertly to be used and exploited for profit.
1. that is not up to you to decide. Stop trying to force your fetish on other people. If I don't want to whore them, that is up to me.

2. do you even know what harem means?

Harem ( : حرمسرا haramsarā, : حَرِيمٌ ḥarīm, "a sacred inviolable place; harem; female members of the family") refers to domestic spaces that are reserved for the women of the house in a family. A harem may house a man's wife or wives, their pre-pubescent male children, unmarried daughters, female domestic servants, and other unmarried female relatives. In harems of the past, slave were also housed in the harem. In former times some harems were guarded by who were allowed inside.
slave concubines and female domestic servants are both explicitly part of the harem, by definition.
 

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1. that is not up to you to decide. Stop trying to force your fetish on other people. If I don't want to whore them, that is up to me.
Bruh. You're just being silly. "Slavery is the ownership of a person as property" - straight from wikipedia. Stop romanticizing horrible things like slavery.


2. do you even know what harem means?


slave concubines and female domestic servants are both explicitly part of the harem, by definition.
This shit it wrong too, because no matter if they are in a harem or not, they are still slaves.

Edit: Stop malding, man. Just deal with the fact that you're wrong here.
 
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This shit it wrong too, because no matter if they are in a harem or not, they are still slaves.
facepalm.
you literally quoted me saying slave concubines.
Bruh. You're just being silly. "Slavery is the ownership of a person as property" - straight from wikipedia. They are not your lovers. Stop romanticizing horrible things like slavery.
1. citation fucking needed on me saying lovers
2. citation fucking needed on me romanticizing it.

I don't like sharing my sex slaves. It makes me feel like a pathetic weak loser who is so weak that he has to share his property (women) with other men. Because he is too weak to monopolize said property.

This has nothing to do with romance, this has nothing to do with love.
They are my property, and only mine. As such I do not want other men touching them

You like sharing, because it is your fetish. Stop kink shaming me for not sharing your fetish.
I don't want to pass around my property (sex slaves) for other men to use. And it has nothing to do with "romance".
And this is 100% my prerogative to have this exclusivity desire.

PS. If I was some simp who was romanticizing it like you said, it still would have been my choice and none of your business.
 

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facepalm.
you literally quoted me saying slave concubines.

1. citation fucking needed on me saying lovers
2. citation fucking needed on me romanticizing it.

I don't like sharing my sex slaves. It makes me feel like a pathetic weak loser who is so weak that he has to share his property (women) with other men.

This has nothing to do with romance, this has nothing to do with love.
They are my property, and only mine. As such I do not want other men touching them

You want to seize the means of reproduction? good for you. But until then I will refuse to pass around my property for other men to use.

PS. If I was some simp who was romanticizing it like you said, it still would have been my choice and none of your business.
What are you doing here then? Go play something like "Harem Collector" or something. You're literally denying the whole premise of this game. Exactly like when NTR fans come into vanilla game threads and complain that there is no NTR.
 

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What are you doing here then? Go play something like "Harem Collector" or something. You're literally denying the whole premise of this game. Exactly like when NTR fans come into vanilla game threads and complain that there is no NTR.
1. While I dislike it, it has not been a complete dealbreaker. There are enough other pros in the game for me to ignore this.

2. I didn't "complain about NTR". I refuted your various arguments when you started harassing me over not sharing your fetish.

My initial post on this issue was a reply to someone asking "how to make money".
my answer was "prostitution".
As well as a "maybe I will make a mod that will allow more options for those who prefer not to"
 
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1. While I dislike it, it has not been a complete dealbreaker. There are enough other pros in the game for me to ignore this.

2. I didn't "complain about NTR". I refuted your various arguments when you started harassing me over not sharing your fetish.

My initial post on this issue was a reply to someone asking "how to make money".
my answer was "prostitution".
As well as a "maybe I will make a mod that will allow more options for those who prefer not to"
The game literally has "sexual relief" stat, for each group of citizens, that you must fulfill to make them happy. That alone must have made it clear what the game is about.
 
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The game literally has "sexual relief" stat, for each group of citizens, that you must fulfill to make them happy. That alone must have made it clear what the game is about.
You left out the part where it gives you the ability to pay a subsidy to incentivize other slave owners provide sexual services to meet it.

If all this game is only about whoring out slaves, then I guess they should remove the military/security expansions. The conquering other arcologies part should go too. Farming expansion? Remove it. Menials? Gone. Anything to do with laws in your city? Remove it. Get rid of weapon production, transportation, city improvement. It all detracts from the slave whoring experience.
 

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You left out the part where it gives you the ability to pay a subsidy to incentivize other slave owners provide sexual services to meet it.

If all this game is only about whoring out slaves, then I guess they should remove the military/security expansions. The conquering other arcologies part should go too. Farming expansion? Remove it. Menials? Gone. Anything to do with laws in your city? Remove it. Get rid of weapon production, transportation, city improvement. It all detracts from the slave whoring experience.
Yes, remove everything. Leave only the part where you watch as people fuck your slaves. Best game ever. 11/10 :ROFLMAO:

That was a joke, if you didn't get it.
Anyway. I'm tired of arguing, so do whatever you want. I'm out.
 
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