VN Ren'Py Completed Freeloading Family [v0.32] [FFCreations]

[ReJoe]

First I have to say ALL the women are in this game are Super Hot, especially Alice. Part of the attraction is the way they are written.
I didn't play the Pacifist route, so I don't really understand where all this anger is coming from. Man or woman if you let someone walk all over you, They Will. They will also lose any respect for you. If you aren't offering any financial reason to stay they'll be gone.
I don't think we have been given enough of the back story to jump to so many conclusions. I think the story is well written despite the fact that we may not like the direction the story is going (I do like it).

Many people have had marriages and children, then, decided at a later age they are gay. So that fact that Alice at her age, may are may not be conflicted about her sexuality is not that unusual. And I don't think her keeping it a secret is that weird let alone horrible.

Leah, could be an awful person, a manipulative bitch (I don't really care for that word but seems appropriate) we don't know enough yet.
As much of a mess Melody is, I could see her and the MC hooking up long term. The teacher Susan is probably bat-shit nuts but she's another outlet for the MC yet to be explored fully.

I agree with others that @V.A. Laurie (dumb question man or woman?) is a talented writer and is keeping me thoroughly entertained. But if you write "In Tee Are" with another man, I'm throwing you under the bus! (just kidding).

 

[SystemOne]

I enjoyed the game so far, I didn't mind the actions between Alice and Leah that much (it was just a little bit saddening to be put aside like that). For now we still don't know if Leah have some bad motives but I hope not. The relation with Alice is still unclear, not sure if she really loves the mc or she just likes to tease him but I guess its both.
The models are hot tho so that's a +, so yeah I look forward the next updates and keep up the good work!

 

[JenusKudo]

Very good renders.
Things are going good until the Alice/Leah thing.
I really dislike the ntr thing,but in this case what i really hated is Alice liyng.
The game has good things and i am still want to see more about Melody,but i dont care about Alice that much anymore.

directly from the last version's script, this is what Alice says about Leah:

- "Her bad attitude isn't really her. If you get to know her I think she'd lighten up a bit. She's just got... issues."
- "She's fun, she's cute... but she does have her issues. I'm not gonna lie about that. So, I don't know."
- "I like her, but she's definitely not relationship material. I mean, having a vagina really doesn't help that cause."

those lines makes you think that Alice is not close at all to Leah but sees Leah just as a temporary sex-friend that she's already considering distancing herself from due to all her 'issues' and her being a woman.
then, this is what Leah tells the MC about Alice:

- "Because you're always peeping in on Allie. She's told me all about it."
- "Riiight. Can't do anything about it. You're telling me she didn't... maybe... grab your dick yesterday?"
- "She tells me a lot, [name]. And now I'm telling you... tomorrow night if you see an opportunity, I'd take it."

those lines makes you think that Alice is indeed really close to Leah, to the point of telling her every single detail of what happens in her life, even those details that give out sensible secrets about other people, MC included.
So, Alice not only lied to the MC about not really being close to Leah but those lines make her look like both a compulsive liar and a manipulative cunt, surely not romance material for the MC.
i hope the dev and his story writer cut any romance off the script at this point moving forward and just concentrate on the kinks, cause there is not one single female character left as credible romance option for the MC.

You are not the only person to feel that way.....
In the last few months I have come to hate Leah, Alice and as well MC (pasifist).
Its my personal intake....but if I get a chance to choose MC's love interest, I will always ignore them both. But some times I can't since some choice will grant me perversion point.

#MelodyFan

 

[Marko1245]

any walkthrough for the new version

 

[YaYa_UnTIN2]

Hi all,

I replayed the latest version (could not use my old save) and while I was able to be on the Perverse path (only) as usual the MC is still a freaking punk-ass when dealing with the blatant manipulations by the females in this game.

I liked that I got to go see Melony (choice) instead of being blue-balled by the two cunts fucking at the MC's house. And the slut Leah grinding my dick during truth or dare but, those feeble bitches are not fooling anyone. The MC is their bitch right now, it would be nice for a perverse player to turn the tables on them, maybe, huh?

Not hating the game, just disappointed yet again. If the renders were not so good I'd drop it.

 

[itsfickfuckthings]

One thing i dont understand is: why is alice mad if you tell her to flash her boobs at the truth or dare game? she is comfortable lying naked in bed with you, she is comfortable with you touching her boobs when she falls asleep on you, she is comfortable with you spying on her in the shower and she is comfortable with being naked with leah.

so, why is she mad if you tell her to flash her boobs at this game where only MC and Leah are around?

Edit: I think something like:"My Stepbrothers wants to see my tits? thats a strange request. But ok, he has seen them already so lets just get this over with" would be more fitting.

 

[jaydem]

I'd like to add a thought here guys. First of all @V.A. Laurie and @FFCreations are doing good work with this game.
I think we have to give credit to both these Brothers, for making a game that, can have such talk about a range of things for quite a few forum pages. That means they're making something outside the norm, and when finished will be a damn good game.

I feel I need to remind you of a few things, not throw your current discussions off. First of all, the game is not complete. @V.A. Laurie has also indicated that there will be a ROMANCE with, at least Alice, possibly more.
Now I feel I need to say that, the story is basically at the front part, you've lived through a plot twist, and got a little bit more of story. The problem guys, is that we are just in the here and now. The next update will be in the there and then......Point being, we don't know what's down the road, we only see what's now.

Right now, things are still being set up, and either next update or the one after, things my start making assloads of sense. They will start going in the direction of romance and relationship. I have faith in V.A.Larie and his writing skills. As a writer you have to take the beginning to the end, and outline the game. Once that is done you do filler story.
Now a few pages back, I've came up with a short story ending type. I admit I was playing around a bit, and V.A.Larie probably got a chuckle out of it. My point here is, that he knows how it will go, and asks for you to be a little patient. All will be revealed bits at a time Brothers...
In case your wondering what I had wrote.....

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I let you guys get back to your talk, and want to again thank both @V.A. Laurie and @FFCreations for your latest update, and I am looking forward to the next Brothers........Peace!!

 

[Rintal]

One thing i dont understand is: why is alice mad if you tell her to flash her boobs at the truth or dare game?

Because it's stupid, childish and unoriginal? I would be the same feeling, if i was her.

 

[Joi_fan]

@jaydem I would love a visit from mom:FeelsGoodMan:

 

[jaydem]

@jaydem I would love a visit from mom:FeelsGoodMan:

Kind of hoping for some HOT mom action with the MC, when or if she makes an appearance.....Keeping my fingers crossed, my T's crossed, my legs crossed, and even my eyes.....Lol!!.................Peace!!

 

[YaYa_UnTIN2]

I'd like to add a thought here guys. First of all @V.A. Laurie and @FFCreations are doing good work with this game.
I think we have to give credit to both these Brothers, for making a game that, can have such talk about a range of things for quite a few forum pages. That means they're making something outside the norm, and when finished will be a damn good game.

I feel I need to remind you of a few things, not throw your current discussions off. First of all, the game is not complete. @V.A. Laurie has also indicated that there will be a ROMANCE with, at least Alice, possibly more.
Now I feel I need to say that, the story is basically at the front part, you've lived through a plot twist, and got a little bit more of story. The problem guys, is that we are just in the here and now. The next update will be in the there and then......Point being, we don't know what's down the road, we only see what's now.

Right now, things are still being set up, and either next update or the one after, things my start making assloads of sense. They will start going in the direction of romance and relationship. I have faith in V.A.Larie and his writing skills. As a writer you have to take the beginning to the end, and outline the game. Once that is done you do filler story.
Now a few pages back, I've came up with a short story ending type. I admit I was playing around a bit, and V.A.Larie probably got a chuckle out of it. My point here is, that he knows how it will go, and asks for you to be a little patient. All will be revealed bits at a time Brothers...
In case your wondering what I had wrote.....

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I let you guys get back to your talk, and want to again thank both @V.A. Laurie and @FFCreations for your latest update, and I am looking forward to the next Brothers........Peace!!

Hi jaydem,

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[Marko1245]

any walkthrough for the new version

 

[rick87]

First of all, the game is not complete. @V.A. Laurie has also indicated that there will be a ROMANCE with, at least Alice, possibly more.

that's exactly the point. after presenting Alice as a compulsive liar and a manipulative cunt i don't see any reason for the MC to romance her, unless the MC in this game is supposed to live his life as a mindless slave with no self esteem. i really hope in the next updates the romance is either scratched all together or at least there is a possibility for the player to reject any sex scene with Alice and Leah and move on to other targets like Melody, the teacher and maybe new characters introduced in the next versions.

 

[YaYa_UnTIN2]

I personally, have no emotional attraction to any of the main characters (except for Melony - aka the Crazy Girl), they all just irritate and blue-ball the MC to death, (even with the truth or dare) activities with Leah or Alice - I know they will probably wuss-out and not fuck the MC (using, his perverse choices) for real.

It is all a trap.

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I'm Not hating on the creator - just thinking out loud about what's next - I'd like a better outcome for the MC. More personal power, grow a spine and get laid on his perverse path (my choice) and not just receive table scraps of manipulative fake affection.

P.S. I know I'm bitching but damn, can't this MC fucker get some "real" lovin' ?

 

[jaydem]

@YaYa_UnTIN2

Trust me Brother I'm in the same boat as you on a lot of the arguments, and agree with a lot them as well.
Right now, it may seem that your choices don't matter. It's true in a way, as V.A.Larie said on a post just after 0.5 came out. That the choices at this point won't just yet matter, but will in the future. Right now is basically just a content picture thing that is the difference, until they start to have a more implemented story divergence.
I stated earlier, that the game is still at a early base, but I feel they have laid the foundation now, to start to move forward in story progression.
There was a post, not so long ago, about how you just arrived to the household and school. I find it awesome, that on the first day, you've impressed everybody, got a new nickname that's drawing the women to you, like flies to shit. Now you have to understand, your the new kid on the block. Their lives didn't just start, when you arrived, so the story has to either meld Eiffel in to their story, or completely drop their lives to become part of yours. If the dev would have it where you are so central, then you would have already been laid by sister.

Then you would in a different topic, of how there is absolutely no build up, and would be pissed that it's just another no story porn game, and bitched.

Believe me Brother I value your opinion, and even share some of your thoughts. I'm not right, and your not right. But our opinions for ourselves are right....to ourselves.....Lol!! Your awesome Brother, thanks for letting me hear your thoughts. But you have to admit, your hooked, just like me. When the next comes out, like me you probably play......so I'll see you at the next pow wow my friend...............Peace!!

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

I feel I need to remind you of a few things, not throw your current discussions off. First of all, the game is not complete. @V.A. Laurie has also indicated that there will be a ROMANCE with, at least Alice, possibly more.

I get what you're saying here but I just never quite find the "it's not done yet" to be that compelling an argument. Like it or not Patreon funded games, especially ones that are linear like FF are essentially episodic releases. That means that in many ways that game discussion here is much more akin to discussing at TV series as it airs than say discussing a novel. As such, the fact that it's not finished, while meaningful in context, isn't that important when discussing how one feels about a particular update. I can tell that this often frustrates @V.A. Laurie because they see the whole story and players can only see things up until the current release.

But that doesn't mean that the complaints can't be valid. The Leah situation clearly rubbed a lot of players the wrong way, and Alice bowing out of the Truth or Dare just really hurt that scene a lot. The main character is incredibly passive at times which is jarring for those who are interested in the perversion side. All of these things can be true while still understanding the game isn't complete. The lack of Alice (which is hinted at to be a focus next update) makes it easy to visit intentions on her.

People react to what they have access to. That's just how it works.

 

[V.A. Laurie]

People react to what they have access to. That's just how it works.

You made some great points here. I've tried not to reply to much this time around, and instead to just watch the discussions happen, but I like the points you made.

This is a mostly linear game. The same story, overall, will be told no matter what. You as the play can influence certain things, and those choices will have some impact, but I can say here right now that the differences aren't going to be so extreme that on one end of the spectrum you become a Sex God, and all women universally want to fuck you, while at the other end, you become an insect... Ok, that was a weird example, but my point is that the choices and selections you make will have some impact, but not enough that the game has multiple, complete, unique storylines. Keep in mind that this game is just FFCreations and myself; we simply don't have the manpower to plan, code, render, and release that much content in one months' time consistently.

Having the Episodic Format does allow us to read comments and make some tweaks along the way though, as we did with the 5.1 patch. But we can't do that all the time, and we can't let the comments completely derail the plan, or the game will feel like it was hodgepodged together. My number one goal when this game is done is to have people look back at it as a whole and say, "You know what? That story was actually really well put together. Let me play it again to see what I missed."

I am seeing a lot of people saying things about the perversion vs pacifism differences, so I hope that in the future releases you'll see where the differences will start to come into play. It's already clear with Susan, but how it will affect the other characters will be pretty obvious soon, I hope. @jaydem just summed up something I said before: in the previous updates, we were letting the player collect points so that they would be meaningful. Now that we have done that, the goal is to have true divergence in certain scenes based on what you've collected. 100% perversion or 100% pacifism may not even be the "best" way to go in certain scenes to come...

Ironically, one thing that I read and tried to account for was how much of a "bitch" Leah is/was. I tried to imply in this update that she's softening up and starting to like the MC more, but now people are questioning her motives lol. I kind of love the theories and the ideas people have because it means you're playing the game, but at the same time it feels like I can't please you at all. You think she's too mean... I make her less mean, but still act tough... Neither is apparently ok.

All I can do, ever, is write a story that I hope will be enjoyed. Keep the theories coming, though. It is fun to see what people think, even if it isn't entirely positive all the time.

 

[jaydem]

I get what you're saying here but I just never quite find the "it's not done yet" to be that compelling an argument. Like it or not Patreon funded games, especially ones that are linear like FF are essentially episodic releases. That means that in many ways that game discussion here is much more akin to discussing at TV series as it airs than say discussing a novel. As such, the fact that it's not finished, while meaningful in context, isn't that important when discussing how one feels about a particular update. I can tell that this often frustrates @V.A. Laurie because they see the whole story and players can only see things up until the current release.

But that doesn't mean that the complaints can't be valid. The Leah situation clearly rubbed a lot of players the wrong way, and Alice bowing out of the Truth or Dare just really hurt that scene a lot. The main character is incredibly passive at times which is jarring for those who are interested in the perversion side. All of these things can be true while still understanding the game isn't complete. The lack of Alice (which is hinted at to be a focus next update) makes it easy to visit intentions on her.

People react to what they have access to. That's just how it works.

@Burt Reynolds Mustache
I get exactly what your saying Brother, in fact, I don't dispute anything that anyone has stated. Hell I follow you on quite a few other forums as well, and know you are normally right on the money with your analogies.
Some times I'll play a little devil's advocate to quell some arguments, for a reason. This particular thread, while I do agree with most of what's being stated, it was starting to appear to turn into a witch hunt, instead of offering solutions to stated problem and be constructive. It's a good way to have threads deleted or shut down, if it gets out of hand.
Now it has been stated by VA and FF that they mostly stay on patreon and discord, but only sometimes come here to read through threads. Well if we continue to badmouth everything the say and do, one they'll stop visiting here. Right now they said they come here for constructive criticism whether good or bad. It just started to feel (your the exception Brother) as though it was nothing but a bitch session and no solutions to go with said problems.
I try to make a point to myself (doesn't always work) For every bad point you have and state, either have a good point as well, or at least a solution to the problem. Even your version of story that could quell your own argument..............All you Brothers are awesome, and all have excellent points, and thanks for your guys great responses to my posts........................Peace!!

 

[YaYa_UnTIN2]

@YaYa_UnTIN2

Trust me Brother I'm in the same boat as you on a lot of the arguments, and agree with a lot them as well.
Right now, it may seem that your choices don't matter. It's true in a way, as V.A.Larie said on a post just after 0.5 came out. That the choices at this point won't just yet matter, but will in the future. Right now is basically just a content picture thing that is the difference, until they start to have a more implemented story divergence.
I stated earlier, that the game is still at a early base, but I feel they have laid the foundation now, to start to move forward in story progression.
There was a post, not so long ago, about how you just arrived to the household and school. I find it awesome, that on the first day, you've impressed everybody, got a new nickname that's drawing the women to you, like flies to shit. Now you have to understand, your the new kid on the block. Their lives didn't just start, when you arrived, so the story has to either meld Eiffel in to their story, or completely drop their lives to become part of yours. If the dev would have it where you are so central, then you would have already been laid by sister.

Then you would in a different topic, of how there is absolutely no build up, and would be pissed that it's just another no story porn game, and bitched.

Believe me Brother I value your opinion, and even share some of your thoughts. I'm not right, and your not right. But our opinions for ourselves are right....to ourselves.....Lol!! Your awesome Brother, thanks for letting me hear your thoughts. But you have to admit, your hooked, just like me. When the next comes out, like me you probably play......so I'll see you at the next pow wow my friend...............Peace!!

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Like I said many times (between mini rants) I like this game but I can't stand the puss MC right now.

 

[jaydem]

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Like I said many times (between mini rants) I like this game but I can't stand the puss MC right now.

I'm with you on that point Brother.
I hope to, he develops the MC going forward......Perv. route = A manly, take no shit, sex machine (Rico Swavey). The other = Knight in shining armor, problem solving, sexy stud loved by all, over and over and over......Lol!!.......................Peace!!